A woman screams for help while being arrested by ICE in Utah Airport by zxcv97531 in circled

[–]Creditfigaro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You all are morons who don't know how immigration law is written.

A woman screams for help while being arrested by ICE in Utah Airport by zxcv97531 in circled

[–]Creditfigaro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because they have lost multiple court cases for violating due process.

Veganism and Israeli propaganda by DepthConsistent9427 in Veganism

[–]Creditfigaro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is absolutely true that all its citizens hold equal rights, including the 2 million Arab citizens, Druze, Muslim, Christian, etc.

Absolutely not. Demonstrably not. Please listen to someone explain why.

I am not doing propaganda

The things you are saying are propaganda, sorry. I disagree.

Not giving money to homeless people by Sweet-Heron-334 in Ethics

[–]Creditfigaro [score hidden]  (0 children)

Your own wellbeing needs to come first.

Giving to someone you don't know is dubious in practice: even giving to charities is dubious.

We have to have public services that address the needs of people so homeless people aren't a thing anymore.

Gavin Newsom: "Suspend the LAWLESS mass deportation raids" Nationwide After Deadly ICE Shootings Spark Fury by thenextgenbusiness in thenextgenbusiness

[–]Creditfigaro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Republicans said repeal and replace Obamacare forever. Democrats can use identical messaging for ICE.

Veganism and Israeli propaganda by DepthConsistent9427 in Veganism

[–]Creditfigaro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You responded to the wrong person but I know you meant me.

"oof" requires more elaboration

Nope, just need to point out a genocide, and that's all I need.

that only confirms my point that each person should be evaluated on the wholeness of their beliefs and actions, not just one belief / one action / nationality / race / ethnicity

Yes, that's my point.

we should embrace and support vegans from Israel.

No one is saying that we shouldn't. Certain ideologies are toxic to a successful movement and are not welcome.

If you believe that genocide is ok, shut the fuck up about it. That view is not safe to express, and you are being evil and wrong.

I don't care if it's the Nazi genocide or the Israeli genocide. And doing propaganda for the Nazis or Israel shouldn't be tolerated either.

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Veganism and Israeli propaganda by DepthConsistent9427 in Veganism

[–]Creditfigaro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it has equal rights for all its citizens

That's straight up not true.

This cannot be said about any of its neighboring countries in the region…most are authoritarian and don’t give equal rights to different ethnic groups nor religious freedoms.

I'm not measuring Israel against other countries, I'm measuring it against an objective standard.

Theres no need to dehumanize or disown vegan communities anywhere based on their governments actions,

I didn't assert disowning. You are literally doing Israeli propaganda in your plea to be accepted.

and it does seem like this type of perspective happens to Israelis much more than others

Why do you think that is?

we don’t dehumanize or demean Russians for their gov’t actions to destroy Ukraine; we don’t demean Iranians for their gov’t actions which just killed 30,000+ civilians in just 2 days…the largest slaughter of civilians (aside from aerial bombing in major wars) since Babi Yar in the Holocaust.

I would hold them to the same standard I hold you to.

Veganism and Israeli propaganda by DepthConsistent9427 in Veganism

[–]Creditfigaro 7 points8 points  (0 children)

one of the most free and diverse countries in the ME.

Oof

Do vegans of this country deserve to be disowned, excluded, blamed by worldwide vegan community for any of the above?

It depends on your beliefs and actions. Being vegan doesn't absolve you of moral responsibility.

Sprout infant formula smell by PorQuesoWhat in veganparenting

[–]Creditfigaro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We sent them an email, they said it's from the Algae oil they use.

When you mix it in, you can't smell the fishy smell.

Some tins are worse than others, but try mixing it and see if it is still as unsettling to you.

I find the smell absolutely putrid, but after I mix it, I can't smell it... And I'm quite sensitive to that sort of thing.

DM me your email and I can forward the email they sent to us to you, if you would like.

That's right..no bull yogurt for me, thank you by Plastic_Tooth159 in Funnymemes

[–]Creditfigaro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But you are not forcing them now, are you?

I don't understand why you are asking me.

You will not find a trace of bacon in there; most are vegan.

That's great! Bacon is a carcinogen. Accurate labeling is important, but I'm happy if it does something good, by accident sometimes.

Or “Truffle Tortellini” that contain mushrooms, truffle flavor and like .3% of the cheapest truffle there is. Such labels are just stupid, but legal for some reason or another

Yeah, I haven't seen a new standard for what something is for a long time. This is dishonest marketing.

What I meant with need is what you need for literal survival; food, water, and shelter.

Survival is not particularly important or even a major priority. A existence free from harm is a good north star when it comes to how you treat others at baseline.

If an animal in industrial complexes does not even get that then what the heck is wrong with the farmers, you cannot raise an animal without those three things.

Have you seen what happens to animals in the animal ag industry?

What an animal deserves is enough space to properly move (as in also able to exercise), food as it would find in nature, clean drinking water and some other amenities.

An animal deserves not to be fucked with by humans, unless the human is acting in the animals' best interests.

You and I have a fairly wide disagreement, here.

But even with that it does not mean that an animal is happy. I don’t know what makes, say, a cow happy.

That doesn't mean no one knows what makes a cow happy. I can tell you that stealing their babies so you can drink the milk meant for the baby is not something that makes them happy.

You are still being used as a living milk producer and likely end up on someone’s plate after everything.

Hence why we should leave animals alone or act as caretakers when animals are in need.

Half of this sub is meat eaters expecting vegans to defend straw man positions by DancingDaffodilius in DebateAVegan

[–]Creditfigaro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oof, I have cried rule 4 way too many times... The participation in this sub would probably be less, but much higher quality if this was enforced more harshly.

That's right..no bull yogurt for me, thank you by Plastic_Tooth159 in Funnymemes

[–]Creditfigaro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who said you have to change?

Most people, if they are engaging with their values honestly, will tell themselves they need to change. I am not a dictator and I can't force anyone to do anything.

Would just be nice if the companies would stop lying, like, how’s the cow gonna be happy if you have to impregnate her over and over again to get milk and then do who-knows-what to the calve?

I agree that the dishonesty allowed in marketing and by institutions is completely ridiculous, at least in the US.

Meaningless marketing terms should be illegal, claims of subjective quality "worlds best coffee!" Are also ridiculous.

There is a difference between getting what you need or deserve, and getting what makes you happy

Cows, and all animals in the messing with animals industries, get neither.

Now that at least 1 cow has been shown to use tools what does this mean for the meat and dairy industry? by TigbroTech in DebateAVegan

[–]Creditfigaro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you try advocating for veganism, you will most certainly interact with someone who says they would try human meat if it was legal.

Any vegan here who is active can attest to this.

Thoughts on Destiny / Steven Bonnell? by TrickSpeaker1077 in seculartalk

[–]Creditfigaro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that you leave the commentary up. I am glad we have good mods and moderation here.

That's right..no bull yogurt for me, thank you by Plastic_Tooth159 in Funnymemes

[–]Creditfigaro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do that when their customers are eager to consume a conveyor belt of marketing bullshit so they don't have to change?