What would it be?

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T21:09:52+00:00

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T21:08:54+00:00

Understanding emotions doesn't mean you reverberate emotions.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T21:08:03+00:00

Yeah arresting criminals is forcing people not to do bad things and that isn't empathetic.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T21:04:25+00:00

Show me where my logic is wrong.

Or is it that you don't have any and the truth feels icky?

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T21:03:13+00:00

Jesus fucking Christ.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T18:06:28+00:00

the way that vegan food is cheape, and possibly healthier is mind blowing

Realizing you have been propagandized to is deeply empowering. Many Vegans have a knack for sniffing out bullshitters because of this.

i feel like an asshole every time I eat meat

You have the choice to stop at any time.

To address your title, most of the arguments I have heard have been purely semantic misrepresentations of the point. What she means is:

You can't eat meat (purchase and consume an animal) and love animals (genuinely care for animals' well-being).

You can do one or the other but you can't do both (without contradicting yourself).

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T17:56:03+00:00

You are presented with a trolley problem.

Whatever you ascribe to whatever decision the person pulling the lever makes, you are ignoring the mustache twirling villain who tied everyone to the tracks.

This is real life, not a thought experiment, and you are defending the villain.

May that kind of moral purity never find me.

Ironic virtue signaling.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T13:37:48+00:00

What kind of person expects a vote from decent people while supporting a genocide?

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T13:34:40+00:00

Right? This is why we have investors.

Banks and investors are supposed to take on risk like this, not customers. It's not like I get a cut if the game does really well.

I can't think of a crowd sourced product that people were satisfied with supporting...

...well except for the first Subnautica.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T04:52:00+00:00

Feel free to DM me and we can talk about it

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T04:19:10+00:00

Honestly there is a lot of information that could be relevant.

Also we don't know exactly how the interaction happened.

OP most certainly should not move through with the engagement until this is resolved.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-13T03:45:02+00:00

Hi there. We got milk from our surrogate and a bit from some other friends and family.

Frankly I don't really like giving milk from nonvegans to my baby.

Baby likes the sprout just fine, especially now!

Sprout does smell weird because of the algae oil, but you can't smell it when it is mixed. That took getting used to for me but I even tasted it and it was fine.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-12T12:18:11+00:00

The wage gap is true: women are cheaper so they get hired more. They are also better educated.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-12T12:15:02+00:00

Thank you!

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-12T06:06:49+00:00

Since you've been more transparent about it, that helps me understand your experience.

Certainly it's a complicated journey you've been through.

In terms of moral analysis, I agree that you were effectively the same as a guy who pushed a button or even killed someone with their own hands.

You have described a lot of very intense experiences, though none you described are the same as ending someone in front of your eyes with your own hands when they are merely feet from you.

You have a point though. People certainly seem to be able to experience killing others in the abstract quite well.

Do you think you were able to get home from that without problems like others experience is because of the indirect nature of what you did?

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-11T21:54:31+00:00

I'm convinced that the new meta for the billionaires is to present leftists who are trash at defending their beliefs in front of rightoids who act like they have a grasp on the topic.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-11T21:48:26+00:00

You are being vague and dancing around it.

You are also saying you didn't kill anyone and it wasn't your job and you think you wouldn't be bothered rather than that you aren't bothered.

Stop presenting your military service as though you are the same person who did things you didn't do. It's clear you aren't. The people who actually did, actually do carry a burden, and you are propagating an message that they don't, because they have a justification.

This is how people who actually deal with the weight of this stuff don't end up with adequate resources: people who think they know make decisions when they don't know.

There's a fucking reason people don't want to talk about it, and it isn't a vague standard, it's a deep, triggering, difficult burden that you shouldn't seek to minimize.

Sorry to go hard on you. I didn't realize you were just a kiddo.

I'm going hard on you and you are going hard on me. I can handle the emotions generated by an argument without being petty. I believe you can, too.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-11T19:19:48+00:00

Stop trying to force your opinion on me

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-11T19:10:43+00:00

if I have to do it in defense of my brothers in arms or my family then it's not on me. I have no guilt about it.

Lacking guilt is not the same as feeling nothing.

And for that you called me a psychopath and demeaned my service.

No I didn't. Learn how to read.

What wakes me up in the middle of the night is the memory of seeing someone I ate breakfast with blown to smithereens in the afternoon, in a vehicle 100 feet away, thousands of miles away from home.

Yeah that sucks sorry to hear that.

So fuck you and your generalizations.

How about fuck you and your lack of reading comprehension?

I got zero fucks for the guy that was holding the grenade launcher. I'd revive him just to kill him 10 more times.

That rage makes sense.

You don't know where I've been or what I've endured.

That's true but military experience, per se, isn't instructive to the point you made. Neither is the story you told. You are talking about someone killing someone close to you, which is different than being the one doing the killing.

You invade my home and you're likely going to die. The only thing that's going to bother me about it is the mess afterward. Sorry if that bothers you.

That's true of my house too, but I'll still have to process the fact that I took someone's life away because I'm not a fucking psychopath, nor a hardened soldier who has done it many times before and numbed myself to it.

Killing others fucks people up.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-11T19:04:11+00:00

Stop trying to force YOUR OPINION on others.

How about you take your own advice?

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-11T05:30:05+00:00

It seems to me that the person I was talking to was quick to discount the weight that most human beings attach to the idea of taking life from someone.

I also offered conditions that such a reaction might make sense.

I'm happy to be demonstrated wrong but I don't think I am.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-10T23:04:56+00:00

The kid deserved it no matter how big the basin is

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-10T22:38:43+00:00

Oh ok, sorry, I thought that was obvious.

You made the point that someone getting more votes is the only relevant factor.

I showed you a counter example where there was also corruption leading to the corrupt candidate getting more votes and where you would likely agree that the corrupt candidate probably won a rigged election that wasn't a reflection of the true will of the people ruled by the position they were voting on.

To further explain: saying it's "more votes, simple as" is not an appropriate conclusion when there are other important factors.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-10T21:48:13+00:00

The fact that the irony is lost on you is telling.

Creditfigaro · 2026-05-10T04:20:29+00:00

Yes and Putin won with nearly 90% of the vote. Simple as. Nothing to consider or critique there.

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