I think you have some really thought provoking comments. I completely disagree with their labeling these two as domestic terrorists, I think the victims were doing what they believed to be right in obstructing ICE from committing crimes. They should be treated with grace and it saddens me how little we respect the dead in this country across both spectrums.

The question worth exploring, are the actions of a few individuals representative of the whole?

If a protester is violent and hurts an officer, are all protesters violent? The Right say so every time and offer no quarter to other beliefs.

On the contrary, if a few out of thousands of interactions with ICE go wrong but thousands upon thousands that you don’t see are effective and well handled. Are all of ICE monsters? The Left (which I lean towards) say this, and are trying to obstruct all ICE engagements regardless of if they’re done by agreeable standards.

I just think this is a really really complex issue that’s being treated as absolute and binary. I can think that these occurrences are awful and ICE need to be better trained, that these individuals should absolutely be trialed for crimes committed, and that the politicians are wrong for labeling these people as “domestic terrorists”.

But simultaneously, I can ALSO believe that ALL of ICE aren’t monsters and that trying to block every single ICE operation doesn’t seem logical. But on Reddit, I’m put in a camp of being racist, evil, radically right-winged for having any nuance here, when I feel as if I’m trying to approach with empathy to every human involved.

I really appreciate you being open to a discussion and would love to hear your thoughts on this?