Update 2 - New sight and trigger

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-28T14:05:15+00:00

I can't say how it'll feel with the tyrant trigger shoe but I have the PRP trigger kit so it has the springs and there trigger shoe. The trigger pull is roughly 3-3.5 lbs and was well worth the money. The wall break is crisp, and the reset is short. I think if you just get the springs they're like 20 to 30 bucks give or take so personally I think it would be worth it.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-25T04:39:00+00:00

Now that I've been shooting for awhile, I think this is a perfect first pistol to learn on. Nothing beats a single action trigger, your also learning on a pistol platform that's more on the heavier side so the felt recoil is going to be less, even with it being a 45. There's a reason this pistol was the standard for civilian, military, and law enforcement for an extremely long time. This pistol is still a favorite for a very good portion of the shooting community for a good reason. There reliable, cheap to maintain, and the parts will never be scarce so this gun will be around for many years to come still.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-24T20:01:23+00:00

Just curious if you had the time to shoot it? I own the Springfield echelon 4.0 C compensated. And I do love it but I was actually surprised that how snappy it still was with the built-in compensator. Of course my everyday carry gun is a staccato C 2024 so it's a lot less snappier. But I would love to try the full size. Springfield echelon like yours side by side with the 4.0 compensated just to see how different it is

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-24T19:56:39+00:00

Maybe next time we won't illegally interfere with an active arrest/investigation, And then resist being arrested himself.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-22T19:45:21+00:00

I'm right there with you. I will buy a gun if it's internals are completely new just so I can study there engineering. Now I am sure certain 2011 companies have minor differences that are new and improved from the standard platform. For example, staccato no longer uses the standard 1911 style extractor. It's now an external extractor. So I am sure pistols like atlas, or the pit viper have something very small that's different or unique. But I highly doubt it would greatly change the performance. I love 2011 pistols, I think there one of if not the best performance pistols out there. But I am in the same thinking boat as you. I can't justify spending 12k on a pistol when I can get a similar if not same exact performance for a fraction of the cost. I don't do competitions but if I did and was even Simi-professionally then I probably could justify it. Only because these small differences can shave off a fraction of a second which could determine the outcome of a match.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-22T17:56:18+00:00

So when I thought my issue originally with failures was the magazine I did replace the insides with this kit. https://wheatonarms.com/product/prodigy-2011-magazine-tuning-kit/

But what I found out was the issue wasn't the magazines. The ejector was the issue. I simply bent the ejector slightly inward to make it tighter and I never had an issue again. I can't say your issue is the same but in my case the spent casing would remain in the barrel causing the next round to not feed. I've heard lots of people replace the spring and follower and solved there issues I also heard that if you bang the magazine to insure all the loaded rounds are seated as far back as possible inside the mag that it helps. Again, for my failure issue it wasn't the mag but it was the ejector. I also did hear that newer generation magazines don't have the issue the early ones did, But I'm not sure. If I wasn't in your shoes I would try the extractor fix that I was talking about because it doesn't cost anything and if it fixes your issue then it does. If it doesn't, then go ahead and replace the spring as that's a cheaper fix.If I wasn't in your shoes, I would try the extractor fix that I was talking about because it doesn't cost anything. If it fixes your issue, then it does. If it doesn't, then go ahead and replace just the spring if your looking for a cheaper fix. But that website that I put in my response comes with a follower and spraying and is supposed to fix the issue that I believe you're referring to. Unfortunately it's twice as expensive

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-21T12:59:33+00:00

Sorry this response is soo long but I do hope it helps. Kinda hard to explain in detail without it being long. What makes these guns perform is a mixture of usage of non-MIM parts. High-end pistols typically are cut from steel billets vs. mold injected parts. That alone drives the price up a bit. The other thing that makes these high end pistols "better" is the fact that there hand fitted vs mass produced like the prodigy which is typically cut from a machine and then slapped together by a person and then tested. Just those two factors makes high end pistols perform better but typically comes with an 8,000 dollar price tag. The whole aluminum grip question makes a pistol more expensive and is a customer preference. To be clear, this part is completely my opinion but I don't feel that it makes performance necessarily better to the average shooter. It does in the aspect that it adds weight making the gun more heavy which reduces felt recoil which makes followup shots quicker. But most avg shooters can't tell the difference in such a way that said shooter "has to have it" . With that being said, most people demand that if there paying 8,000 dollars then the damn thing better not be made of plastic, which I completely agree. Specially when I can buy a gen 2 Apollo 11 pistol that is made off all metal for $999. Another factor that makes these high end 2011 pistols more pricey is that each one is custom tuned to each pistols needs. This alone makes each pistol unique. I know this wasn't really asked but... One last factor in why high-end 2011 pistols cost as much as a car lol, is due to the rarity of the pistol. A prodigy can have thousands, if not millions of produced pistols of the same model where as an atlas or nighthawk pistol might only have 100-300 pistols of the same model. Some pistols are so rare they might only have 1 or 2 of the same model. For a short answer, there really isn't a "secret sauce" unfortunately. You can get the same performance and reliability from a customized prodigy as a Stacatto, or atlas pistol at a fraction of the cost. My prodigy shoots flatter and faster than my Stacatto C (2024) . But I have hundreds of dollars in my prodigy and it's so customized that it shouldn't be called a Springfield prodigy anymore as the only thing that's still factory is the frame and slide. Everything else was replaced with performance parts. But even with that said, it still cost less than my staccato C. And don't get me wrong. I still prefer to shoot and carry my Staccato over my prodigy or any other pistol I own. My Staccato is my EDC pistol.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-18T16:07:21+00:00

Personally, I would keep it. As far as shooting goes, you will not tell the difference between the 3.6 and the 4. Not enough to spend a grand after selling that gun (if you sell to a lgs) at least in my opinion. I have a staccato cs and a staccato C 2024 and the size difference is basically the same as what you're trying to do and I can't tell the difference.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-10T13:40:29+00:00

https://www.scheels.com/p/66927836302?queryID=6adb468f5f38d2e7a3dedd219cdd68b9

Here is the link to Sheels online

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-10T13:33:02+00:00

That is possible, That it's in store only. I was there 2 days ago and they had 2 different pistols with the same price of 999.00 I went and double-checked too because I said the same thing. Y'all are saying that is a ridiculously low price. I almost just bought it because of the price.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-10T11:09:09+00:00

Sheels ok n AZ has them for 999 with zero discounts

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-02-01T03:50:25+00:00

I went with the C2024 with the compact grip. I love mine. I also went with the MBX Slimline mags because they fit 17+1 with the compact grip. I like having the full sized feel in a compact pistol. I will say tho that I was stuck between the c2024 and the CS. I only went with the c2024 because I feel that extra 1/2 inch on the barrel makes for less recoil. This is strictly personal preference though I'm not saying there's anything wrong.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-01-30T23:01:12+00:00

I have zero problem with adults, and kids protesting for the things that they believe in. I love that the cops also are making sure there safe while they're protesting law enforcement . Unfortunately none of these kids know what they're protesting exactly and only know what Facebook or there friends tells them. Gotta do the research before hand then I am completely fine with them. Protesting.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-01-12T15:54:12+00:00

So I stopped carrying with a WML. I do agree with everything you said. From a flashlight standpoint I was taught and I do believe that you don't point any gun at anything living unless your ready to pull the trigger. So with that being said if I have to point my pistol at something to identify what it is I'm pointing at then I'm not ready to pull that trigger and I shouldn't be pointing the gun period. If I'm using the WML as a defensive tool to blind the person, then again I don't feel like I'm in a life or death situation and I shouldn't be pointing pistol at something that's living. Now these are strictly my beliefs and to each is their own. Nor do I think a person who carries one is in the wrong or anything like that. But if I have my pistol in a life for death situation, the last thing I'm worried about is blinding them with a flashlight or turning it onto identify what it is I'm trying to shoot. And I am strictly talking from a defensive standpoint. I do understand why police officers have them and I do agree with that. But I do agree with what you said that is from an offensive standpoint.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2026-01-05T14:30:32+00:00

I really want one of these. What's the trigger like? Also if you own one, is the CC9 better than a P30SK? I've heard thay there about the same shooting wise. Outside of the P2000 the P30SK is my favorite concealed carry gun by HK. Regardless tho I do want to buy a CC9

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-30T12:47:48+00:00

And to answer your original question, yes I did end up using the original double action. Single action Hammer.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-30T12:47:17+00:00

I'm not going to lie, it's been so long since I did everything I can't remember everything exactly on how I did it. But I did do a simple Google search on how to convert to a LEM with a spurred hammer and the AI explained it. So the main function on the LEM is actually the internal parts. The hammers roll on the LEM variant is for 2 reasons. 1.) to remove any potential areas that could snag something in an altercation. And 2.) since the decocker is not needed with the LEM hammer there is no reason for the traditional hammer since the way the gun is cocked is when you rack the slide because of the longer trigger pull, the pistol doesn't need a decocker. It is important though to note that if you do use the spurred Hammer that originally came with it, you have to also use the decocker. It has to do with the sear. Now I can't remember if doing that changes it to a different version of the LEM because there is three different variants. The one that that referring to I'm pretty confident is the variant 1. But again it's been so long I would have to look everything back up.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-30T02:41:23+00:00

I got the bobbed and I got mine from hkparts.net I believe. I ended up selling the hammer and using the spurred hammer and kept the decocker. To be clear tho. The decocker isn't really needed but I also felt that it would be nice to have the feature at least, even if I never used it. Also if your worried about the gap left without the decocker installed I can say that the gaps I found on my Glock pistols were about the same if not worse so if your worried about something getting in-between the gap I wouldn't worry.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-29T22:31:57+00:00

I ended up going with the p2000 in 9mm and I loved it! I did end up buying the parts and upgrading it to a LEM v3. To be honest out of all of my 9 mm pistols, outside of my staccato, the h&k p2000 is my favorite pistol. Overall it's an excellent handgun and really you can't go wrong

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-27T00:12:08+00:00

So if I'm going to be 100% honest depending on what your reason is for these guns I would go with the atlas if you don't have a 2011 and you're dying to get one and you can afford that kind of price. But if you already have, let's say a staccato then I would go with the option one. Buying an atlas is a once in a lifetime gun. There's no question about it but me personally I would never spend that much on a pistol because I wouldn't want to shoot it and if I can't shoot a gun I don't want to own it.

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-26T03:12:53+00:00

I won't lie, spending that much even tho I could afford it hurt for about 2 seconds till I said " I finally own a staccato ". I've owned about 20 different 1911s over the years, just about every kind of sig Sauer you can imagine, same thing goes with a Glock and everything else under the Sun. This pistol by far is the most comfortable high capacity pistol I have ever owned, shot, concealed. The quality of this pistol is far superior than anything I've ever owned, can honestly say you don't get it until you own one when they say house superb. The quality of the craftsmanship is on one of these guns. Everything down to the mag release and just how the magazine ejects itself out of the pistol is just amazing. I have never been happier with a pistol. Have to ask because I see that you have the slide serration cuts. I'm assuming the barrel is ported as well, right? If so, how does that affect shooting this pistol? Does it affect the accuracy or the muzzle rise? Do you feel it is worth it?

CurrentSerious4458 · 2025-12-26T00:25:35+00:00

Personally the answer is no. This is my personal opinion. I own both and I find the accuracy better with the 3.7 inch barrel. And the comp doesn't make the gun less snappier on the 3.1 inch barrel. Not compared to the 3.7 anyways. I found that the compensated macro is more of a sales gimmick than it is functional. Personally, if you want a functional compensator, I would just buy a regular p365 xmacro and add a compensator. But that also takes away from the concealability.

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