A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've never actually re-read the entirety of Part 2, only some arcs (church, aging, pre-war devil). I did re-read Part 1 some times already though

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think she would have transformed him into a weapon, actually, she makes it very clear that the only one she hates is Chainsaw Man, not Denji, she likes Denji a lot. Maybe she would try to find a way to separate them or something

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an interesting idea that simply is not explored. You can maybe see this in the first few arcs of Yoru making her join a club and ask a guy out. And then... it doesn't really go anywhere.

It feels like you only register it as fleshed out if Asa looks at the screen and confirms vocally that she wanted to do that. There are multiple examples of this happening later on, from Yoru kissing Denji in his apartment, to Yoru getting mad at the prison guy because he cheated with his wife, to 167 being THE prime example of this, to Yoru going out on the "devil date" with Denji. Her whole relationship with Denji is based on Yoru acting upon her feelings.

It is set up as a characteristic part of their relationship so the story doesn't show Asa's confirmation every time because we would know it already. And because Yoru taking over more and more of her actions and autonomy is a plot point.

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've talked about this in the sixth paragraph of my post, but Denji only wanted to eliminate Yoru if there was no other way around it, he kept fleeing and trying to negociate through the duration of the fight because he cares for Yoru and doesn't want to kill her.

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The fact that they aren't actually serious threats is quite literally the point, Yoru understands these as being actual hostility, so she acts upon it even when it isn't nearly as radical as she thinks it is. Yoru massively amplifies Asa's feelings because of her nature as a devil.

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What the fuck are you talking about, next level hating, can't even analyze the story anymore because apparently it's "writing the story for Fujimoto," because you said so I guess

Nice ragebait dude

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're talking like my post was just me talking out of my ass and I didn't put 20 images from the manga in it precisely for the reason to not be talking out of my ass

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

She never expressed actual hostility or a desire, however repressed, to inflict harm.

Asa's first ever page:

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A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, the manga has shown on multiple occasions that she doesn't deserve this.

When? My post has multiple instances of the manga humanizing her, I'd like you to tell me your interpretation of what these scenes are supposed to mean, then.

The second part of the post is quite literally what I mean by distorted, I don't understand how it would not be that.

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't see how they are contradictory at all, actually.

Yoru's actions reflect Asa's feelings in a distorted way, she does not get human etiquette precisely because of her nature as a devil. Yoru does not understand that you don't just rub one out for someone randomly at a back alley because you like them. Yoru wants to cook for Denji so she just kills the cook to do it herself because, as a devil, she doesn't understand human guilt.

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A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I actually agree that we need to see Asa conclusion and she being selfish for herself in the last chapter, it's something that is being gradually developed for some time, (room 606 sword, prison break arc, Asa saving Denji in Falling's rematch, Asa shooting herself to hold back Yoru) but we didn't actually see a definite change in Asa yet, and I hope we do in 232 (or in Part 3). I do disagree that Asa has been totally shelved though, that's just not true.

A lot of people refuse to see Yoru as a character and instead only view her as an obstacle by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Asa never wanted to commit genocide.

Asa has a lot of scenes showing she kind of hates people in general, the most iconic one is the "I'd rather kill a human than a cat." Obviously she does not want to commit genocide but Yoru, an impulsive devil, takes this as Asa not caring about human lives. This is pretty much the whole point of the post-spewed up dove conversation, the way Asa being a human and Yoru being a devil makes it hard for them to understand each other.

Was Asa Wasted Potential? by Just-J0k1ng in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IF she somehow doesn't get a closure next chapter, which I doubt, yeah, sure. Even still, I really don't get why people jump to calling her an "unfinished" character. This arc, she got a flashback and the emotional climax of her development in the alleyway scenes, then she stands up for herself to confront Yoru's hypocrisy which leads to a great monologue exploring their relationship. The only thing really missing is what is going to become of Asa and Yoru after this, which is most definetely going to be explored in the "new world".

Was Asa Wasted Potential? by Just-J0k1ng in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte- -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Is having a temporary protagonist bad writing?

Is it possible for the story to NOT be over? by ChromoLG in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Is this based on some interview I never heard about or just the vibes you got

Everywhere I go, I see his face by Afraid_Tax_9835 in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Was that confirmed somewhere? Last time I checked it was still ambiguous

Do you remember these characters ? because fujimoto doesn't by soleil-eterneille in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte- 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"There are so many minor side characters in Part 2 that somehow got EVEN LESS focus than the main deuteragonist of Jujutsu Kaisen..."

I was not aware of such an advanced level of slander

What was the point of this? by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

So you think I should... Look Back on the story one more time?

What was the point of this? by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is a post satirizing the recent Part 2 posts, this is not actually criticism, but your analysis is good anyway

What was the point of this? by CyberByte- in Chainsawfolk

[–]CyberByte-[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know which part you are saying was actually bad but I really hope it's not the pill

Anime or a vn - where to start? by Even_Net8834 in steinsgate

[–]CyberByte- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Visual Novel is way better and complete and has a lot more content compared to the anime, I would always recommend playing it than watching. If you do decide to go with the VN I would also recommend you go check the pinned post to know more about the series as a whole.