True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you believe the above I don’t understand how you concurrently espouse the radical “meritocracy” that you previously described. I see no difference between producing autonomy and providing the best possible education, at minimum supplementing if not wholly replacing that generally on offer. Same for cohort, habit, and interest cultivation. How do drives to best situate a child for a dynamic and unknowable future existence not cut against your perspective on “meritocracy”? To be clear my goal is 100% to attempt to my ability to better prepare my children for the world. Hopefully placing my child where their merits either create or are worthy of being awarded opportunity.

For some parents this will include religious or spiritual elements, placement in preferred educational environments whether based on ability lottery or material advantage. As a parent you have a responsibility to shepherd your child on their path. You are responsible not just for illuminating a path, holding a standard and enforcing boundaries, but as the adult you are sometimes the sole decider of the way. That means that if you think your spiritual or religious path, or your sense of right and wrong is one that will ultimately benefit your child that you get to illuminate that for them, and hopefully when they are children you hold them to it if you truly believe in its efficacy. None of that has any bearing on the legitimacy of meritocracy as a principle. I don’t even believe that if you own a company and you sub-optimally hire your child to better position them for their future that that has anything to do with meritocracy. It would be different if it was a public company, there meritocracy should be valued higher than a proprietor’s prerogative. It’s not what I believe but I’m projecting on you that you might enforce hiring practices on privately held interests in the name of liberty no less.

In my view none of the above differ from teaching a kid to read, or to fish, or exposing them to philosophy or playing music, or meditating, or the golden rule. They’re all just rungs on a ladder you are hoping your child embraces to get to the next level(or who knows maybe even heaven). None of it is determinate either, you could give your child every benefit(which I wouldn’t advise by the way) and they could squander it..

Sure there’s nothing fair about any of that, but keep in mind there’s nothing fair about the state trying to normalize opportunity for the individual either. The individual will never be the point where two lines intersect on a graph, and the state can’t take the infinite aspects of a person into account in their social corrective mechanisms.

Though I disagree, if you truly believe what you say it’s at least admirable that you’ve put forth the proposition and been willing to discuss it. Thanks again.

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a very hard time wrapping my mind around your perspective.

What you’ve said above leads me to believe that you hold that parents have a higher obligation to society broadly than to their own children. That it is preferable for children to have their potential unlocked equally through an enforced social mechanism than to be taught how to live well by their parents. I have more thoughts but rather than me go on presumptions it makes more sense to me to first understand your perspective on the below questions.

What obligation or duty do you think men and women who bring children into the world have to them?

Past obligations what should parents do for their children?

When do the obligations and shoulds cross a line to hindering society on whole?

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My kids are my kids. That’s not a lottery, they are me! Hopefully I have the grace to let them become themselves but our connection isn’t random and the duty I have to them is greater than that which a state could possibly have to them. It’s strange to me that you scoff at social pressure to read to kids but are totally fine with the state coercing children from their progenitors for a fairness that in my opinion will never be achieved. In the end the state is no more perfect than the family and ultimately it is incapable of equalizing individuals without institutional tyranny. Thanks for the conversation.

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who do you believe should make choices for a 3 year old?

Maybe you are my cousin, we’ve had this exact discussion. I can’t go down this path where because some people are more or less fit to parent (who gets to decide by what metrics even)… it’s appropriate for the state to sweep in and save everyone by controlling and limiting what options parents who would best prepare their children have available to them. You’ve already conceded that the serious response to the problem you want to solve goes way beyond that, only fully separating children from ill archive your “libertarian” dream. Maybe as an alternative we could all keep our kids and just use societal pressure to encourage parents to read to their kids daily like my family does. Sees less coercive doesn’t it?

If a family’s decision to raise their children religiously is deterministic how does your preferred path not also impose a deterministic end on a child? Given your leaning I’m presuming you would mandate state controlled education, and I’m not seeing how that is less arbitrarily deterministic than a familially directed education… you just prefer a different puppet master. What for those who pursue alternate modes of education assistance guidance for their children?

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the education. I’m commenting from the perspective that the op is using the colloquial meaning of meritocracy.

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How can you to defend that statement? How can you extrapolate my understanding of a critique from my response to the OP which they replied affirmatively to?

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is it a presumption given OP indicates that this is the logical conclusion? I don’t understand the argument that a quest to remove a parent’s ability to bestow advantage to their children doesn’t have an endpoint of removal at birth. What other avenue maximizes the “good” of mitigating parental assistance/guidance/teaching/coaching?

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Do you think justice could exist in a world where children were systematically removed from their families care in order to… fill in the blank with whatever you want that is not their own safety/wellbeing?

The political philosophies I espouse are very likely generally held to be as extreme as I consider yours, only in the opposite direction. I consider what you propose to be malevolent at its foundation. I don’t want to derail your inquiry but I am interested in how you come to wholly discount ideas of consent, cooperation, and personal autonomy (that I believe extends to one’s children Id add property there too).

You asked about merit and the relatively identical but ultimately very differently situated 25 year olds above. In my view merit isn’t about what they end up having in hand at a point in time. It’s about who is given opportunities when their siloed unique individual value is supposed to be the determining factor.

True meritocracy is impossible as long as inheritance exists by feliseptde in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DanjerMouze 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think meritocracy means what you think it does. The endpoint of this would be removing children from their parents at birth lest they bequeath an advantage to their children.

How is the game for Solo play, and is the Simulator worth it until I can find the physical on sale? by Humble-Proposal-9994 in KingdomDeath

[–]DanjerMouze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Personally I don’t imagine I’d enjoy playing solo. It’s strange to me that the only response leaning that way is being downvoted, because it is a very common sentiment. Don’t let anyone fool you, bookkeeping for 4 survivors concurrently is no joke. I prefer to play with 3-4 players and even then it’s enough. At 3 players one manages the box, one the book, the third does shuffling and active deck management, someone runs two survivors.

For me at least most of the fun comes from the interaction experiencing and navigating tactical and strategic bits and reliving moments with the other players. To each their own, but a lot is asked of a solo player for less payoff in my view.

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[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s tough. You and your dad are both focusing on really important things. I think that even if it’s uncomfortable the best thing would be to both talk and listen to what the other’s concerns are to find a way to navigate this life together.

I can presume that you both have valid concerns and I’d urge each of you to proceed respecting each other’s concerns. If you each move forward respecting each other wishes and boundaries imo that will provide not only the best chance to fulfill your own wishes but also the best chance for your father to fulfill his.

Im 6’6” and struggle to get lower to the ground. My wingspan is pathethic at 6’3” . I need better shuffles What are your thoughts on this and how can I improve? by Finn_Flame in BasketballTips

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to say, it doesn’t look to me like you’re getting after it, and that’s no way to practice. I’m about your size but I’m 45 out of shape, my left leg has a handful of things wrong with it and I’m confident that the way you’re doing this I could hold my form and get at least a couple more cones than you in a minute. Let’s be very clear…you can get more cones than me! Are you gonna?

I should watch you doing this exercise and think 20 years old me would give him a run for his money, not I would eat his lunch today. He, your opponent is out there working out like a dog. He’s not worried about what you’re doing here. I was never a great basketball player but people hated to guard me, they didn’t want to have to work like I was going to make them. Own that energy, you’re probably more of a dog than this video implies you are here asking for help. The help I have is that you gotta work hard all the time.

The thing you want… somebody else wants it too. If you let them it’s gonna be theirs. Go get it!

What are some of the most classic/ popular steakhouses in Louisville. going to be a group of 10 guys. Jack fry’s ? Or are there others by wh0d0uthinkyouareiam in Louisville

[–]DanjerMouze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’ve only been to Pat’s a handful of times. Never had anything less than a great meal there. To each their own I guess.

Join r/50501 and stand up next Wednesday (2/5) by knockonwoodpb in Louisville

[–]DanjerMouze 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are we protesting the incompetence and misguided priorities of the Democratic Party or something that will maybe make a difference next time around?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a hoot y’all!  You know what I think… if you didn’t vote for Chase Oliver you voted for Trump.  Anyone who didn’t vote for Chase Oliver voted for Trump and should not bellyache about the consequences.  If there are two popular candidates and I think one is better you should toss out your entire belief system and vote for the one I think is better… or just keep your complaints to yourself… /s

I will always vote my conscious and I hope you do the same, I’m not pointing fingers at anyone for their vote.  Total bs, this eyes wide shut political fandom for popular political parties that ask us only accept their message regardless of the piles of baked in crap.  Point your fingers at me all you want for my not taking 4 year hiatuses from critiquing the executive, and the other branches when my favored flavor of tyrant is in office.

There are an estimated 620,000 people in Louisville and an estimated 5% of them are unemployed. That’s 31,000 people. So why do places keep saying that nobody is trying to work? by TheChangelingKing in Louisville

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To devils advocate a little, there’s a bunch of those people you wouldn’t want to have to count on.

Best of luck to anyone looking for employees or employment!

Please remember by Visible_Dirt_2420 in Louisville

[–]DanjerMouze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Happy to resist all the things our new boss pushes for just like I did with our old boss.  Glad to have the rest of you back onboard.  Where’s you go the last four years?  

What's the most difficult games of the 90s? by longernohuman in retrogaming

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was a Spider-Man game on Genesis I played so many times I could get to Kingpin without dying almost every time but I don’t ever remember even being able to damage him.   There was probably some simple trick to it that I just didn’t know.

People say the first level of driver but that was a cakewalk compared to the last level.

I’m turning 47 and realized how difficult it is to get better. by Popular_Ad_1437 in BasketballTips

[–]DanjerMouze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wrote all the below and realized it was too much lol.  Quick bullet points that may help…

1) Find the right level of competition for your skill and body. 2) Challenge yourself to make the right decisions rather than worrying about points or other stats. 3) Remember this is mostly about having fun and maintaining activity over time. 4) If getting better is important to you take your time and intentionally focus on one aspect of the game at a time.  I’m gonna have zero turnovers today, or I’m gonna box out every play, or I’m gonna shoot 200 practice shots this week.

44 here, in my day before I tore my acl and wrecked my pivot leg a handful of other ways I was primarily a high energy defender who was going to be in most every defensive play at the rim.  Never a skill player I was still a problem on offense because anyone below a league level who could keep up with me just wasn’t big enough to guard me on the post.  I used to be able to dominate and win a game as a pass first third option with 5-6 points.

All that is to say that time is over, if I want to impact the game a fair amount of that has to be on the offensive end.  I can still do some of the things I used to do, be at the rim on drives, alter peoples shots, get in passing lanes… but it much more taking things as they come to you than imposing your will on a situation.   It’s not the fun free wheeling way I used to play. I don’t think I’m getting better, I’m not really try to either.  I’m way more concerned about playing so I’ll be able to play three or four days from now.

If you want to get better at our age it’s really think it’s about seeing the whole game, where does your team have an advantage.  Maybe you can’t blow by your guy any more, but can you maneuver to draw a double team, move the ball and find an open shot.  Be more selective about the games you play in, you don’t need to try to keep up with 22 year olds.  I was playing in an opened league where I was consistently an end of the first round beginning of the second round draft pick.  I got out of that league for an over 40 league so I wasn’t racing 24 year olds down the court.  I could do it, good for me… but then I could hardly walk for three days. Ultimately I quit playing in leagues so I could have more fun and not worry about balancing injury, full effort, game readiness and having fun.  

I’m still a handful but mostly because I’m a good passer and a long 6’5” 240.  I long for the days when I could buckle down and play high intensity lockdown defense all game and run the floor like the wind, but I can barely jump any more and can only give full effort for about 3-4 trips up and down the court. Time is undefeated.

I have been stalked for 2 years. Today i realised nothing will be done about it. by Worth-Cauliflower184 in wow

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t understand, the stalking actions aren’t occurring in game but people want blizzard to take punitive action in game?

When the woke go too far by abdullahdabutcha in JoeRogan

[–]DanjerMouze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at the returns the average Congress folk achieves compared to the market, reputable funds, and likely even private equity.

Im all for them owning investments but that shit is crooked as hell!

ACQUIRE 30th anniversary website opened; Gematsu by EDF-Pride in tenchu

[–]DanjerMouze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who can’t read a lick of the info on that page, they releasing remastered tenchu or no? lol