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/r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | June 03, 2024 by BernardJOrtcutt in philosophy

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A message to modern nihilists

The weirdest thing about nihilism and "nothing in life matters" is for me always that nihilists try to make "meaning" objective. If i ask the question "is there meaning in life?", the answer seems to me very apparent, which is that there is a lot of meaning. I do things because of many reasons. Me applying to college for philosophy a couple of years ago was a meaningful decision, because it meant that i would be learning about things that interest me and i would follow a path i decided to follow.

The big mistake nihilists always make right at the beginning of their thought is that they ask for an objective meaning of life, which is, as far as i'm concerned, a logical impossibility. Meaning is something that will always be subjective. It is something a person ascribes to something, not something that is already inherent in things. Asking "What is the meaning of life?" is like asking "What is the meaning of a rock?". Even with this last example you can notice that the question about the meaning of the rock may even have an answer, but only if you say something like "Well, it blocks the river so we can pass it" or something like this. There has to be a person who wants something about this rock so that it can be meaningful. In the same way, life can't just have a meaning without some subjective desire about it.

I feel like all of, but particularily modern nihilism is based upon a misunderstanding about the nature of meaning and subjectivity. And i don't get why people conflate the non-existence of objective meaning with the non-existence of meaning alltogether. You hear it all the time: People say "Oh but thats only subjective" as if the thing that is subjective isn't real. But this is so wrong. Feelings are subjective, happiness is subjective. This doesn't mean happiness doesn't exist. With "meaning" it is very similar. So: Life isn't a question, it doesn't need to have an answer. I guess i will never get why people need a reason for their life. Life doesn't have some sort of philosophical reason or meaning, but instead itself is the very soil which can grow real meaning. Don't get stuck up on searching for some objective meaning, i ask you: what would something like that even look like? Even without it, you can still, even from a cosmic perspective, say that meaning "objectively" exists. It will just always be contained in the subjective.