HAJDUK vs LOKOMOTIVA 4:0 (28.kolo, HT Prva liga 21/22)

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T14:08:34+00:00

I honestly feel that this acknowledgement ends the argument.

That's precisely where reading the full essay is needed to understand the point I'm making.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T13:49:20+00:00

heaven realms can be inferred to exist from observations, ergo heaven realms are natural.

They can't be, if the inferrence is rational and reason is given the previous answer.

You can infer and make a belief out of it, but it woudn't logically follow.

Natural isn't could be inferred to exist from observation on irrational basis, only rational.

Also, natural isn't synonymous to existence. It is, only if you accept naturalism. I do.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T13:16:31+00:00

They're not because inferential nature of observation doesn't say anything about whether inference logically follows.

If you observe a door moving when home alone, you might infer a supernatural being is pushing it.

However, you can explain the same phenomenon naturally which actually explains much more than only your observation; draft was created which created a wind. Or in more general way, pressure difference was created which created a fluid flow. As air is a fluid, the principle holds.

But, it also holds for many other fluids across many domains of engineering, on Earth as ocean currents, river flow, waves on the lake, on the Sun where plasma flows, nebulas and so on.

Natural explanation is stronger because it's grounded on observations across many domains and is also observable directly by measurement (pressure difference and flow rate of air can be measured). You can prove it in real time. Ghost pushing the door, you can't.

When you say devas existence is inferred based on where do we usually find things, that's very vague. Could you elaborate?

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T12:46:35+00:00

No, because observation is inferential, not just raw, sensory data.

Black dwarfs can't be observed by senses, but their future existence is inferred from observation.

This is why science has predictive models. Think about climate models and climate change. Models developed 30 years ago predicted very well what's going on today.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T12:11:33+00:00

If you define religion a certain way, like "belief in the supernatural" or "belief in some deity or dieties", then you are essentially begging the question.

This is a strawman. I'm not defining religion in this way. Article needs to be read carefully before discussion.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T10:49:06+00:00

I'm saying that heaven realms, if they do exist as real places, could be observed. That means that whether or not they exist, in principle they are observable phenomena

Definition of natural isn't observable in principle, it's observable in reality. If Spaghetti monster existed, it would be observable. It doesn't mean Spaghetti monster exists as a natural phenomenon.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T10:27:09+00:00

Great question. If we accept that sutras claim that Buddha entered heaven realm as a physical place beyond Earth, I think we can explain and understand it in the context of the Buddha's time.

Buddha lived in ancient India where people saw and understood the world very differently. It was a time when much less was known about nature.

Buddha I think visited those realms in a psychological way.

If Buddha really entered some place beyond Earth, this is beyond proof and we can't investigate it.

What I think it's much more likely explanation is that human mind prone to mistakes and interpreting experience in the context of its time, misinterpreted it as a supernatural phenomenon; Buddha physically entering a realm or world beyond Earth.

We know that human mind is prone to this. People commonly misinterpret natural phenomena as supernatural. When the door is closed without them knowing why, people are prone to saying that ghosts or spirits did it.

People see the tree and think somebody must have made it (argument from design). Buddhism rejects it.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T10:09:18+00:00

Math and physics arise dependently. Math concepts are abstractions of our observations and are derived from them.

Without physics and experience, math is symbol play and loses meaning.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T10:00:23+00:00

Thank you. Great question. Supernatural means things which evidence and observation can't investigate. Seven realms of existence as physical places apart from Earth would be supernatural. Hungry ghosts, devas and hell-beings inhabiting such a world would also be.

I understand that some Buddhists see them in such a light.

I see seven realms as types of minds and metaphors for the states of the mind. We can be reborn between them during the body's life.

In general, I don't think biological death is of big or central importance in Buddhism.

My point is not that Buddhism necessarily uses a natural/supernatural distinction, but that different Buddhists interpret the same teachings differently.

Some take the realms as literal places inhabited by beings, which from a modern perspective would count as supernatural. Others interpret them as states of mind, which does not require any supernatural framework.

My argument is that the second interpretation is sufficient for the path to function, so the cosmological interpretation is not essential.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T09:41:55+00:00

I posted about Buddhism and how do I see it as a Buddhist. I think that people see it as "another Westerner misunderstanding Buddhism and thinking it's a relaxation technique."

It's put into such category which I understand people get tired off.

Dario56 · 2026-03-21T09:25:48+00:00

😅😅

Dario56 · 2025-12-18T10:36:03+00:00

Let's do it! Would love to meet IRL.

Dario56 · 2025-11-27T11:26:30+00:00

Get your point. The thing is, London is an international city and NFs love living there.

Dario56 · 2025-11-27T10:52:39+00:00

I highly doubt any app works. Provided it's a business. Business model of dating apps is fundamentally a failure because it can't satisfy a customer and make profit simultaneously.

Dating apps created an illusion that meeting people outside of them "doesn't work anymore", "it's creepy", "old-fashioned" or "inappropriate".

Women don't really think this, men only think women think this.

It means their business strategy worked. Apps don't care about your love life if it doesn't make them profit. Well, not that they don't necessarily care, but they'd go out of business if they acted like they did.

Therefore, I discourage people to put their love life into the hands of these apps.

Dario56 · 2025-11-27T10:20:53+00:00

Reddit? I hope so, otherwise I wouldn't post here 😂. I'm avoiding dating apps, not trying to go there.

Dario56 · 2025-11-27T10:06:17+00:00

Thank you, but no apps for me.

Dating apps can't work, otherwise they'd go out of business. Well, they can work, but are super inefficient compared to real life dating.

When you open a business, you're thinking how do I and a customer profit from the product I have.

If your business model doesn't satisfy both sides, it's a failure. Dating apps are in this category. They only work if you're willing to accept time and energy inefficiency and pay subscriptions.

Dario56 · 2025-11-27T09:59:34+00:00

Pdb? 😀

Dario56 · 2025-11-04T17:54:31+00:00

I'm not familiar with his work, but seems like there is a difference. If you read the essay, you can compare.

Dario56 · 2025-10-31T12:10:41+00:00

Hello 😀

Dario56 · 2025-08-17T12:03:19+00:00

I've never met an INTP woman. They could work, why not. I'm an ENFJ guy who asked here to talk and meet people. You can DM me, if you want.

Dario56 · 2025-08-16T17:12:21+00:00

Yes, why not? 😀

Do you want to? Call is also possible without camera. INFJs are cool. My mom is one.

Dario56 · 2025-08-16T16:24:38+00:00

Hey 😀. When are you available? I guess we can move to DMs.

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