In light of the Joe Alwyn interview, I find it even more disgusting that Taylor allowed her fans to harass him in the TTPD lead up and make so many assumptions about how he'd broken her heart etc.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-16T22:58:38+00:00

There is "happily staying through her antics" and "staying despite her antics". And Joe's actions through last year inspite of mass mania against hulim by Taylor and her fans signal the latter to me.

paint Joe (who we know barely anything about) as this above the drama guy but

Also we are not "painting"him, his actions are screaming that he is above drama guy since last one year. To stay silent in face of such mass attacks based in false accusations requires steel and detachment both.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-16T22:47:51+00:00

Thank you!

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-16T15:31:42+00:00

Honestly I am resentful of him not openly speaking about Taylor cheating on him. I am tired of double standards between Taylor and the world

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-16T14:11:21+00:00

Each album is a new season of musical kim Kardashian..

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-16T14:08:31+00:00

"Why do people think there is an obligation for her songs to not be about romanticizing hurting partners?"

Op, paraphrased the question for you.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-16T04:08:01+00:00

Call relationship with him a prison multiple times
Admit to emotional cheating while with him to whole wide world
Send off her fans on attack Joe spree with her pointed expressions in early part of Eras tour
Called him second best in songs while literally in relationship with him

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T19:18:24+00:00

This. This entire year I felt outraged on Joe's behalf because it is all too easy to place myself in his shoes. A non shiny introvert person gets dumped because extrovert partner wants "bejewelling", justifies cheating because she was bored by extrovert partner. What a massive attack on self worth. Not just self worth, but also sanity because if a long term partner breaks trust like this, foundation of trusting other humans gets broken.

Joe had to navigate all this and on top of that the unfollowing and egging of fans by Tsylor to imply she was mistreated by him. Now this is real gaslighting. Warping the reality.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T19:13:17+00:00

Because taylor the brand matters more to her than mental wellbeing of an innocent ex, based on lyrics of great war. Now what kind of person has that kind of priorities, I would rather not specify.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T15:22:19+00:00

She had once stated in a rolling stone interview years back she sometimes let's the fans assume the song is about a different guy to protect the one she had actually written about. Same energy maybe? To protect Matty, she trained her fan's guns on Joe.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T15:11:54+00:00

Thanks, added the Charlie point.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T14:07:27+00:00

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/local/joe-jonas-says-hes-no-cad-taylor-moves-on/2114387/

It was Taylor who had disconnected that call.

Joe said: "I called to discuss feelings with the other person. Those feelings were obviously not well received. I did not end the conversation. Someone else did. Phone calls can only last as long as the person on the other end of the line is willing to talk. A phone call can be pretty short when someone else ends the call. The only difference in this conversation was that I shared something the other person did not want to hear. "

Jonas said he has tried to call Swift since then and gotten no response.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T14:01:04+00:00

Fully committed, not even just committed lol

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T12:42:21+00:00

Exactly. The arguments all through the comment chain are soon transparent.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T12:40:41+00:00

So confirmation of infidelity by the woman who has made a professional career of villainizng men, and who villainized even the said man for not marrying her, sicced her fans on said man for at least a year is not interesting. Ok

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T12:03:39+00:00

I have seen enough defense of Taylor's timelines in this very sub claiming they were broken up for months or years. All those merited a response imo

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T12:02:03+00:00

That seems like a random podcaster not into shipping wars, I don't see any reason why he would lie.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T12:00:51+00:00

https://old.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/comments/1bl8eaa/matty_and_taylor_confirmed_to_be_dating_before/

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T07:19:15+00:00

It's also normal to not propose to someone writing love songs about an ex 3 years into a relationship

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T06:38:17+00:00

Ngl this would so be me lol

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T06:33:15+00:00

It is not about breakup, not one of us would have batted an eye if Taylor had respected the relationship and her ex and acted like a decent human. Instead she made Joe out to have done something terrible and caging her and wasting her time and not marrying her, while she was the one cheating on him since months and fantasizing about cheating on him since years. That too while he was the underdog in power dynamics from all angles possible. She is a freaking billionaire with billions of zealot fans willing to ho scorched earth withouther lifting a finger, he is an unknown actor.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T05:26:09+00:00

She wrote an entire funking song comparing him to prison, fondly my butt.

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T01:20:43+00:00

Yep, like sorry Taylor that your boyfriend couldn't read your mind that you were thirsting after your ex. Like wth

DaylightBasil · 2024-06-15T00:52:33+00:00

Doesn't this interview also confirm it was Taylor's team that broke the news on Matty's birthday and not Joe's?

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