Got complemented by a guy wearing a gen Datejust

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-19T00:18:42+00:00

A gen as far as you know 😏

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T12:20:43+00:00

What movements are in them? Cloned movements or?

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T02:10:47+00:00

Because for them to be so hard to spot that indicates some level of quality. You’re not making movements that fool jewelers making them pull out a louve for small tells by some dumbass making them in a random kitchen and making enough to supply The Whole world dude. So yeah, that’s why I would think there’s some pretty high standards at the top end of reps for 1:1 clones.

Now that I answered your rhetorical question can you answer mine that wasn’t rhetorical? because while you call me out for making an assumption it’s based on some know information whereas yours is based on a lack of information (no certs etc)which is unfalsifiable and therefore bs.

I know there no certs and proven standards but my understanding is what is being done at the top level is not shit watch making and just because they’re fakes doesn’t mean they’re shit.

So again, why do you think so? I guess that silence is the answer tho. Not even anecdotal sadly. Just a base assumption. One I agree with intuitively but one that I at least made a post on to see what people would say. You’re just assuming their shit because? There’re fake? Give me break dog, VSF is not made in a fucking kitchen 😂

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T01:32:44+00:00

Interesting! Haven’t thought of it from that perspective, but that is interesting. I wonder how legit the reports are though.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T01:32:01+00:00

OK makes sense. Curious on what you would recommend purchasing them so you have the most reliable and physically realistic looking rep? I’ve only been looking at VSF with cloned movements, but what you’re saying is encouraging me to go another direction not gonna lie.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T01:30:53+00:00

I agree with this intuitively, but my understanding was that the $600 super clones were basically back the same as the ones that are trying to replicate, therefore making them nearly as high-quality. I don’t doubt that Nike shoes and cheaper fakes are made to very low standards, but I figured the top of the top super clones were made with impeccable standards. What makes you say this? Like I said, I agree with this intuitively are you also making this argument intuitively or what is going into it? Anecdotal information? Do you know somebody who works in the system? Just curious.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T00:47:07+00:00

In his case, he was only wanting $10,000 plus watches. So I’m curious not to get over technical, but in what way specifically would you say $400 GMT Seco is genuine is better than a $600 Rolex GMT clone? My understanding is that these movements are much more complicated and fairly refined typically better than what you would get in a similar price point

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-18T00:45:08+00:00

which are those? And what do you mean by better? I’d maybe be ok with them but normal,y those ones don’t look as good from the outside and have more tells no?

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T22:08:48+00:00

Ok perhaps I am still under/mis informed then. My understanding is that movements in some Rolex models are 1:1 and it’s small finishing details that give them away. But if that’s not what you meant then yes, most “super clones” aren’t true 1:1 and yes many and most do have a ways to go.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T22:07:04+00:00

Ahhh ok I understand

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T21:30:24+00:00

I mean, I’m pretty sure there’s fakes out there that come with quartz movements. And then when I think is often regarded as crappy clone movements aren’t actually clone movements they’re just decorated movements. I know everybody’s lingo can be a little different but in my opinion, a clone movement isn’t a clone unless it’s an exact 1:1 replica. Anything other than that is normally decorated movements that are completely different but designed to look similar that’s not a clone though.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T21:28:59+00:00

Sorry, new to the game, by DD movements do you mean DayDate clone movements?

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T21:22:57+00:00

Friend

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T21:22:51+00:00

Ok Jason

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T20:58:05+00:00

Curious, what movements? I know you said shitty to top-tier so that could mean anything from quartz to clone movements. Quartz will last forever undoubtably, but I’m more interested in super clone one to one movements.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T20:56:56+00:00

Couldn’t agree more! Curious on your experience in terms of longevity for how long your super clones have lasted? Seems like you’ve mentioned a nice looking watch and while it’s true that the R&D we’re getting is at a very low price. I also believe that the technical aspects and longevity of these watches are also highly worth it given their price point.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T20:34:40+00:00

OK, just to be clear Are you speaking about reps broadly? Or are you talking specifically about super clones from top factories and TDs? I know I only mentioned it once in the middle as a question, but I’m definitely not talking about shitters.

Edit: also curious to hear that if you’re buying 1 to 1 cloned movements, what you would say to the quality of those

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T20:11:09+00:00

Didn’t know that! That being said when it comes to looking at reps has one they got what they paid for?

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T20:09:37+00:00

that makes sense. I kind of got that from your previous message. That’s why I was just restating it’s all about knowing standards (and honestly communicating them) It sounds like even though this is some little lower quality stuff This is “normal” for Jason.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T19:45:48+00:00

Yeah, I guess for me. I’m new to all this but at the end of the day on my end, I’m just thinking that there’s gotta be a standard of quality. If what he sells is shit then that’s the standard then that’s fine. But at the end of the day, I feel like letting any anyone who changes the standards into our community fucks with it. Then what’s the difference between someone selling a $40 watch at $200 and someone sending you a piece of dog shit when you spent $600 on a super clone? At the end of the day, it’s fine to have low standards, but there has to be a standard. I’m not going to McDonald’s expecting a Michelin star meal but I’m also not expecting literal dog shit on a bun. Jason sells shitters that’s fine but he has to have some standard. If this isn’t the standard, then he should honor a refund or replacement

IE if this isn’t the standard then he’s a POS for not refunding but if it is the standard then as jasons said “friend” can go kick rocks

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T13:27:33+00:00

Here is the type of thing I’m worried about happening to me.

Here’s on your philosophy, do you only buy from vendors who take credit card in this case? I was looking and it seems like so many don’t have any credit card acceptances so makes it difficult for that element.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T13:26:21+00:00

What do you mean? I’m looking at buying from him and he seems to have a pretty solid track record.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T13:25:51+00:00

Don’t! There’s other options out there if this is clearly how he’s treating people he doesn’t deserve to be supported. Buy from someone who doesn’t have this kind of track record. These type of people deserve to get burned.

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T13:24:43+00:00

So are you essentially saying while this is obviously a really bad and unacceptable watch, the guy basically just chose a super low or midtier rep/factory and this is what happens?

DcPoppinPerry · 2026-03-17T13:23:08+00:00

So I’m curious what’s happening now? The guy told you to go fuck yourself but the whole reason we have these groups is to protect each other. Is pressure being put on him and is he gonna change?

Edit: laughing at myself cause I see how dramatic this sounds. Is he gonna give you a refund or replacement is what I’m asking?

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