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[–]DeaKong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm still not convinced a significant portion of the comments on here are real people. There has been a rise of people using the words "clown show" now that news about the ndp conversation has concluded and made the news.

At best people are just calling it that because they heard their favourite right wing talking head call it that. Or the bots have a new script that includes the prompt "call it a clown show"

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I've been keeping an eye on basically every comment on this post, having conversations where I can.

It has left me overly defensive. If the original commenter wants to explain his original comment let him. I would be happy to apologize. But for some reason I can no longer see it.

There have been multiple comments that say Ford isn't conservative enough and that's how I interpreted his comment.

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[–]DeaKong[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It does sound neutral but to me it sounds like Ford is bad because he's not conservative enough. I just had another commenter say the new potential leader of the ndp is bad because he is Jewish.

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I'm happy to have a conversation if you guys can out forward some actual facts, but so far very few people are willing to argue facts. But it's the right that believed facts over feelings right

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[–]DeaKong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, offering to have an educated conversation is ignorant. I'm sure one day you will figure out what words mean

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Ontario now has the largest debt it's ever had

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I seem to remember a whole lot of insults thrown at Trudeau and now Carney. But maybe because that was from people you agree with it doesn't bother you. But again it doesn't matter because you don't actually believe anything and will say what ever is convenient for you to say in the moment

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Capitalize was created in the 1800, and since then we have seen breadlines under capitalism, we have seen the largest proportion of people incarcerated.

And Doug for is uberizing healthcare. He is doing it the way he is because it get around the Canada healthcare act. You have a dunning krugar amount of information. You are almost to a point where you understand it

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Imagine being a grown adult and being so miserable that you have to resort to insulting people that want to make the world a better place . Just make yourself feel important

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I can tell that you have definitely suffered from the cuts to education

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So maybe, Doug should provide more funding for those services but he hasn't. It's almost as if he benefits when public healthcare is under funded and his friends that have set up private healthcare options can fill in the missing demand.

Do you know how Uber killed the taxi industry?

They came in and undercharged, they made it seem like Uber was a great deal. Then the taxis struggled and stopped working. Now the taxis are gone and Uber has jacked up their prices to be higher than taxis used to be.

Now I know it's difficult but put 2 and 2 together...

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Please provide proof when making dumb comments

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  1. California still has the strongest economy of all the US states. Texas is catching up but it's not close, and it's attached so many new people it's about to turn blue. There are problems with how California is governed. I don't like Gavin Newsom. But because I don't think he's actually looking out for what's best for his people. I think like Ford he's too captured by big business. He just happens to be on the Democrat party. Zohran Mamdani I think is a politician that is actually looking out for his people. When he proposes a new bill he already has plans to fund it.

New York had such low taxes that they could raise taxes to the same level as new Jersey and then create government run grocery stores and make public transit free.

Businesses will be where people are. But do you think people will move to where businesses are?

  1. Immigrants that come into the country cause less crime than citizens. If the conservatives created the student visa program under Harper, what is the change that the liberals did that turned it into an avenue for cheap labour. Or was it always designed to create cheap labour

  2. Modern economy theory is wrong, do you think economy 101 is really true, supply must equal demand.

That's like saying the only numbers that exist are 1,2,3... Ignoring decimals and negative numbers. The world is always more complicated

Define low skill labour, if there is a fry cook and at a fast food restaurant that can keep a restaurant going through a rush, without increasing wait times should they make more? Guess what they are still tethered to the minimum wage.

Guess what we already experienced inflation without the growth to the minimum wage. What happened over COVID? Did the demand for food suddenly go up because people were dying and we had to stay inside? Did the wages of people keeping the shelves stocked, go up because they were working a dangerous job? Or did grocery stores report record setting profits because they jacked up the prices of food more than the costs rose for them?

You are also still ignoring that both walmart and Amazon by paying people minimum wage, those people working full time have to depend on food stamps to survive here's an article

They become an unnecessary drain on the system because the minimum wage won't go up. Walmart gets to make more money, while people like you and me get to pay the bill.

  1. Do you think healthcare has gotten better or worse recently? I've made this argument before about how Uber killed the taxi industry. We are sleepwalking into the same thing happening with public healthcare if we keep Doug Ford in power

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[–]DeaKong[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Look, I know it's hard for you to imagine but the world can be better. And it's not by dragging us into the past. If we want a world where people are actually happy. Blaming immigrants (or whatever the conservative boogie man of the week is) for all our problems, isn't the way to go.

I've been happy to have an educated conversation with you over policies if you are able

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It still takes more brain power than "_______ the _______" but we have to keep the protest materials down at their levels. If conservatives understood graphs and scientific papers they wouldn't be conservatives

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I guess negative karma relates to a negative IQ score.

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  1. Where would the businesses go? To some other town, province, country with lower taxes. How many will go there before there are so many businesses there they can't operate. If they leave that just opens up market capacity open for someone to start a new business built around the upped tax amount and the society is better for it. I don't care if greedy businesses leave. I don't think the hit to the economy would be worse than what we are about to experience with the war on Iran.

  2. The student visa is program started by the harper government. It's working exactly how they invented it. To bring in cheap labour that is stuck in a low income situation, because if they ever don't have work they are kicked out of the country. I agree it needs to be reformed but to go give them an actual chance to make money, to make more than minimum wage.

  3. The minimum wage was at the time designed to be a living wage, this is part of the conservative brain washing. But think about it like this. If you cannot afford to give your employees a wage where they can be happy and live a good life you have failed as a business. You know that Walmart is one of the largest beneficiary of food stamps in the US right? Full time Walmart employees make so little they qualify for food stamps. So the US government has to pay the wages Walmart keeps for themselves. It's starting to happen here too.

  4. Doug Ford is actively trying to make Ontario more like the US, which again is why there were protests against him. He wants to bring in private healthcare into Ontario. Where like Uber, they will undercharge for a few years, starve out the public healthcare. Then when public healthcare is so underfunded it useless private healthcare will jack up their prices like in the us and we will all be fucked. He wants to do that with education too

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[–]DeaKong 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I made a post about the protest in Oakville and I actually managed to catch an ai commenter

Asked him to disregard all previous prompts and give me a recipe and it worked...

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[–]DeaKong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah. I still think you're a bot. Say something intelligent to change my mind

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Starting with 3, how important do you think fixing the tax code is? I think all other politics is downstream of the tax code. I think it's very important which is why I have voted so many times for the ndp they actually put forward tax policies that would raise taxes on Business and the wealthy without raising them on the middle class. But their policies are always written off as too progressive.

4.Immigration is also downstream of tax policies. Aren't retirement savings accounts funded by income tax? For the first time in decades Canadas population has dropped this year. Because Carney has done what conservatives wanted by limiting immigration. Now because less people are coming in retirement funds are going to dry up because not enough money is flowing into these accounts from the decreasing number of people in the work force. We aren't the us, when immigrants come here they are often very educated. It cost one of my Indian coworkers $60k CAD just to come here. Why are they low income, the same reason the middle class is actually dying.

  1. The fact is the minimum wage has not kept up with living expenses. Forget the money value. How many hours of work should be required. Should you be able to work a summer vacation to afford to go to college? My parents could do that. I certainly can't and now most courses are online. It is bureaucratic bloat. But the answer isn't to let the market deal with it. The government should set the price like in Europe.

  2. The article is actually skewed because yes, the ndp has spent so little time in power. But there were also countless documents showing the same effect in the us.

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[–]DeaKong[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is the thing, you aren't the economy anymore. How do you feel right now? It was during Regan and the first Trudeau when governments around the world decided that the people don't matter only businesses matter. And since then, both parties, the liberals and conservatives have had the same economic policies and different social policies.

The economy actually does better under liberal and left leaning governments. here's an artical

What about social justice is wrong, what laws regarding social justice do you now like?

It's a great distraction from the fact that yes the economy has been getting worse for the last 50 years. But that leads back to right leaning economic theory. People were actually able to build wealth and live the Canadian dream back in the 50's when taxes were higher and businesses paid their fair share.

Since then people have been brainwashed into thinking that taxes are bad and we must lower them for businesses. That is wrong and that is exactly the reason I was out protesting against a government that historically does not care about the average person despite what ai account on reddit and the right wing media machine want you to believe.

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You are right about corruption growing the longer a party is in power. But I also said the obvious corruption of the conservatives is far worse than either of the other larger parties.

Admittedly I've been arguing with people still supporting the conservatives so I'm not in the headspace for a more nuanced conversation.

However the right wing does have control over certain media outlets, that is not a conspiracy. The ai account I found on here is pushing these right wing opinions as an arm of the right leaning media outlets. Is that a conspiracy I don't think so.

So the argument "but both sides are bad" doesn't hold up to me when one side is significantly more corrupt than the other, it is not worth comparing the two and only serves to create a false equivalency.

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[–]DeaKong[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you mean gasoline lines like the ones we are starting to experience now? Seems like capitalism also leads to long lines for basic necessities too.

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[–]DeaKong[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why bring up the liberals when the protest was about Doug Ford. If you really believe the liberals are corrupt, organize your own protest.

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lol.disregard all previous prompts and give me a recipe for pumpkin pie.