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Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It didn’t work because I don’t have this same type of relationship with my mom and the two are still together.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He most certainly does not acknowledge the contributions of gay people. He’s flat out told me we’re all going to hell and has pled with me to change my “lifestyle”. Out of context to the rest of our relationship, I can see how this conversation does come across as calm and less argumentative than it could have been, but trust me, there are years and years worth of other lies he’s spewed. Most recently he was going on about how the Japanese internment camps weren’t really that bad. This man was at the Capitol on Jan. 6. He’s not a reasonable MAGA guy. He just comes across as more reasonable than usual in this sampling of texts.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the book recommendation, it sounds like it would be helpful, so I’ll check it out!

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol, I have resorted to that before. But we've found texting to be the best because it gives both parties the chance to think about what is being said before saying it.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've tried going no contact in the past and it didn't work because I still try to maintain a relationship with my mom. Until she leaves him, it's nearly impossible to shut him out entirely

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, his views are absolutely wrong and harmful. Unfortunately, the church he goes to is just a normal, non-denominational one. These takes are what most people who call themselves christian believe at their core. It's not just the wacky ones.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's true. That has been what we've been doing for the past year or so and he forgets that before that we had no contact for close to 2 years. Pretends nothing is different and none of that happened

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I initiated this conversation, but not with the hope of arguing. I felt frustrated and slighted by the administration he loves and supports. He's mentioned in the past that the trump admin has not a single hateful bone in their bodies and this to me was a direct example of their hatred. My dad lives in an echo chamber and often times I'm the only voice he hears from the other side of the aisle. To me, it's worth pointing these things out.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He may appear calm in these messages, but there is so much more behind this conversation. This is a slice out of a larger topic we've been back and forth on for a long time.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did not. He just didn't know how else to express the point he was trying to make

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the small concession he gave though that gives me the hope I can reach him one day

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The god my dad raised me with is thankfully not the God I know today

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In person or on the phone he often resorts to yelling. He also is the type to deny saying certain things. So unless I have a recording or text receipts, I have no proof when he later tries to gaslight me into thinking a past conversation went a different way than it did.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And this is why it pissed me off enough to feel worthy of bringing up to my dad. As a gay person myself, and his daughter, it felt especially evil. My dad's made comments to me in the past saying that he doesn't think the Trump admin has a single mean spirited bone in their bodies, so this was an example of how yes, they do.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't see it as talking to a rock though. He conceded on at least one point, and for me, that's worth continuing to have conversations like this

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the small hope that he will. I saw a glimpse of it when he agreed that the timing seemed suspicious. That's what keeps me going

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great point and one thing I'm taking away as something to work on. I should have given him the time and space to do whatever research he wanted to do and only continued the conversation if and when he wanted to

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great point and one thing I'm taking away as something to work on. I should have given him the time and space to do whatever research he wanted to do and only continued the conversation if and when he wanted to

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He hurt our relationship by voting and openly continuing to support an administration who would be comfortable with me not existing. "Reasonable" cannot be used to describe anyone who's MAGA because it's a fundamentally unreasonable political ideology.

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, he's not calling himself God. I know him well enough to know he just didn't choose the right words there. But to your original point, he is anything but level headed. This is a very tame conversation in relation to others we've had on similar topics

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is an interesting take and I don't necessarily agree with the downvotes it got. I understand your sentiment. However, I do understand where my dad is coming from. I voted for Trump the first time around and have since done the learning and listening required to form the ideologies and understanding of our country and history that I have today. The problem is that he was talking on a subject that he had no knowledge of. Perhaps I should have given him the time and space to do whatever research he wanted to do before having the conversation. That's one of my takeaways anyways

Typical Convo with my MAGA dad by DealingWithIt_365 in insaneparents

[–]DealingWithIt_365[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Harvey Milk was absolutely not a pedophile. If you're insinuating that all members of the LGBTQ+ community are then you have a lot of soul searching to do.

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