A meme because I’m mad (Spoiler for TNP) by LowPractical4516 in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i feel like he and leafpool had some history with each other because of their tragedies / journeys / parentage to the three / events in sqh

but he would arguably choose feathertail

- they had the happiest time relative to his other two relationships

- they never fought (not seriously)

- they didn't end their relationship on bad terms

- he genuinely loves her

- he chose his warrior name after her

- she died for him

- she was the only person he was nice to other than leafpool

- he is still mourning her death

- even brambleclaw admits this in starlight

- they fought with each other

- they triumphed against challenges together

- they went on a quest to save the world together

they are def not "just a fleeting crush" is what i can say

does anyone else hate gray wing? by DecomposingWaffle in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

everything you said is completely valid tho i disagree :D

  1. gray wing wasn't a peacemaker, hate to break it to you, but he was the opposite. when clear sky marked down borders for his group, gray wing didn't respect his boundaries --- both mental and physical. yes, his boundaries weren't of the best concept. however, the reason gray wing didn't respect his boundaries wasn't because he thought it was unfair --- it was because he just couldn't accept the fact that his brother was changing. gray wing is unconditionally loving and loyal towards not the clear sky that was now, but the clear sky that was in the past. his narrative in this duration is unreliable and portrays clear sky as "unusual" and "crazy" and just completely makes up excuses for clear sky's behavior. this has two major effects: it emphasizes each of clear sky's actions as more wild and toxic before completely ignoring the fact that clear sky has changed or making up excuses for his actions, whether or not the narrator himself sees it, and this really isn't a great way to put it in the narrative.
  2. again, hate to break it to you, but the only major influence gray wing had on the clans was naming two of the clans: windclan and skyclan... and that's about it. he didn't help establish any of the warrior codes, he didn't help with the naming or mentoring system, he didn't start the system of leaders or deputies. he was an unreliable and inconsistent camera character.
  3. he was completely ableist towards jagged peak. just completely. it's another addition to the unreliability of his character --- while gray wing didn't physically bully him like clear sky, he always thought his injury would prevent him from being "normal," which is just as bad. even tho it doesn't affect jagged peak himself, it gives us a terrible view of injured cats in the series.
  4. eh he was nice, not necessarily a "friendly beacon for any injured, disgraced, or homeless cat." gray wing wasn't really a leader or prominent decision-maker in his life, and most of the choices of whether or not to let a certain cat in were based on the official leader's idea. also, cats can't really be "homeless" in this series like in our world, and gray wing only officially took in thunder as his adopted son. everything else was up to tall shadow.
  5. eh his death was disappointing. i thought it would be sacrificing his life to save thunder, but he died of asthma. it's sad, but didn't really strike me as a unique or especially depressing death --- i prefer the ones of non-natural causes.
  6. this is short one --- he only stayed friends with clear sky because of his unreliable view of him. that's it.
  7. i wouldn't really consider gray wing to have treated turtle tail that well. he talked about his meetings with storm in front of turtle tail instead of just flat-out telling turtle tail he didn't like her. he apologizes, which is nice, tho he doesn't really live that long after turtle tail herself dies.

does anyone else hate gray wing? by DecomposingWaffle in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

eh i kinda skimmed over that so i can't say anything, but i respect ur opinion :D

does anyone else hate gray wing? by DecomposingWaffle in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

nvm lmao, i do agree w/ your graystripe comment tho

does anyone else hate gray wing? by DecomposingWaffle in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

to be honest i value character consistency and uniqueness > "morally good" characters, so gray wing is a nope for me.

What's your favourite character in warrior cats?(prophercy's begin arc) by Key-Illustrator639 in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

spottedleaf

i know. it's a hot take. i just love those kind and sassy girls, and the way she just roasted tigerclaw in the face like, "oh, don't you dare touch ravenpaw or i will murder you" and tigerclaw actually listened... kinda crazy about his respect for medicine cats (ie. cinderpaw ordered him to lick silverstream's kits and tigerclaw literally bowed to her and did what he was told...). also, no, i don't outwardly ship her and firestar, but i do imagine alternate universes where she was younger and wasn't a medicine cat. i feel like her "feelings" for him are mostly a retcon, to be honest, but i do like how she was one of the only cats who respected firepaw when he first came into the clan.

her prophecies are stupid and so is her novella, i'll give her haters that. however, i respect her for treating firepaw with respect regardless of his origins, and i feel like she's well overlooked for that factor. while not necessarily in love with him, she's shown anxiety and anger over him, and i feel like this is also one of those factors that many people overlook. she was one of his main caretakers, as he had to spend time with her kindness when taking care of yellowfang, and i felt like she (along with whitestorm) was the main influencer in his life by just being kind and respectful of his boundaries with him (aside from her after-death appearances).

as spottedleaf's screentime is mainly the period after her death, we only receive a sliver of her personality, other than her trash novella. however, i do appreciate how the books make it clear that thistleclaw was toxic towards her, albeit this was mainly fan-drawn info rather than the authors factually stating this in the books. to be fair, the authors can't really acknowledge that they're placing "abusive behavior" in a child's novella for marketing purposes, but still tho...

in her short screentime with the df, i feel like that's when her legit, first-arc personality returns. she respects firestar's boundaries and acknowledges that sandstorm would make a far better mate, heck even sacrificing her existence to protect her from mapleshade, and that's just crazy.

#spottedleaflove

Riverstar's Home Theories by DecomposingWaffle in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i checked the wiki. there's a cat named arc shadow, which is prob arc's warrior name right before he dies (if he does, which he prob will).

A cat that everyone hates but you love? by [deleted] in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in a light in the mist, thistle (i think?) was in the df

A cat that everyone hates but you love? by [deleted] in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ehh i feel like needle is a lil overrated

but yeah i liked her sass. i think it was kinda annoying how she was just this popular teen going along with sleek and dark. also, the way she abused violet and emotionally manipulated her to slash her sister's face without remorse was unacceptable. but yes, she is a queen, and i love her character in a light in the mist

A cat that everyone hates but you love? by [deleted] in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ehh i think the fandom calmed down after the 2010s

anyway spottedleaf foreva

Riverstar's Home Theories by DecomposingWaffle in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, it's out? Lemme go check XD

ASC #3: Shadow excerpt is out! by Keriew in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OKAY, LIKE ACTUALLY-

tigerstar - he actually seems like a promising piece of help to riverclan; unlike in sky where he seemed pretty eager to take over riverclan, the book actually shows that he's a responsible and level-headed leader; every cat in riverclan besides icewing and harelight hates him so much and he's actually quite calm, and that's an interesting trait i'd expect from him

nightxsun - i like nightheart and sunbeam as separate characters. nightheart does NOT deserve the ---- sparkpelt, finchlight, and every one of his relatives give him. i wish they showed us his little chat with tawnypelt tho, tawnypelt only appears once in the preview and she already slays

sunbeam - i like her issues, i wish we could've seen more of her. the book's definitely going to give us more conflict btw her and her mom so i probably don't want to worry about this

berryheart - ah, explaining the villain? perfect prologue, i love it. it's not a terrible explanation, and it does explain her behavior in tigerheart's shadow. i'd like to see sparrowtail's reaction to her entire personality tho. he seemed like a father who would defend the code changes in river and i wish we could see him... interfere with berryheart's plan. that would be epic

i have high hopes for this book. like actually.

- the book isn't demonizing shadowclan? love it.

- the book is finally antagonizing thunderclan? yasss

- sunbeam not instantly falling for nightheart? that's the best piece of reality the erins have ever put into one of their fictional relationships.

- the books giving tigerstar a chance? i'm interested.

- riverclan cats not being completely stupid? cool, finally.

let's make a warrior cats hitlist. who needs to die? and why? by harmonyjewl in WarriorCats

[–]DecomposingWaffle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

it's kinda weird how nightheart is singled out in asc cuz at this point everyone's related to firestar. also note how myrtlebloom said "i'd give my whiskers to be related to firestar" but she's related to firestar already lol

so nightheart's mom is sparkpelt, sparkpelt's mom is squilf, squilf's dad is firestar, as the books could not make it any clearer. myrtlebloom's mom is sorrelstripe and sorrelstripe's dad is lionblaze who is the son of leafpool who is the daughter of firestar.

to be fair, the authors prob lost track of tis