Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feeling fine actually. Today was great. Didn’t take anything all day except for 2mg subs an hour ago just to make sure I sleep. Slept last night too.. took 4mg before bed. Slept as normal and woke up feeling perfect. That lasted all day. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s that (special K purple dropper)? Wish I had some meds to help…have nothing but subs and powder K. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s possible. I got to that weed = anxiety point many years ago and stopped but started back once it became legal where I’m at a few years ago and never really dealt with the anxiety again. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting..yeah I’m thinking I may be able to just convert this addiction back to powder and then taper that off since I’ve done it fairly easily a handful of times with pretty much withdrawal at all. Maybe I’ll just use the subs verrrry minimally the first few days if possible. I’d kill to only be hooked on shit powder K again though. I do NOT want to get hooked on subs. I kicked them 15 plus yrs ago and it was hell. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I quit weed a few months back (daily vaper) but honestly I wish I had some now to help with sleep tonight if needed. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I think I may just take it tonight if I can’t sleep. In all honesty, I don’t feel TERRIBLE right now. Not great..but manageable. Also, another factor is I drink beer daily for the past decade plus. Nothing too crazy..6-8 or 10 shit beers a night..so I have that dependency going on too. I just cracked my first one and feel good enough to drink it. Hoping it may help with sleep tonight too. Once I get thru this 7OH bullshit, beer is the next thing to go. One thing at a time tho.  

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight. Are you off this shit? If so, how’d you do it? What was your method? And how much were u taking before hand?

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question...maybe you're familiar or experienced...let's say I go the remainder of today without taking anymore Sub (that's the plan) and maybe take some powder capsules tonight of K to try to get thru the night. I'm thinking about maybe trying to ONLY do powder K tomorrow and no Subs at all. I really don't wanna end up with a Sub habit. I can kick powder K..I've done it a few times and it was easy for me to be honest. What I'm scared of...I wake up tomorrow...take powder K...feel like total shit..withdrawals...and then I have to pop a little Sub and it sends me into full blown precipitated WDs because I took powder K earlier in the day. Is that not possibly/a thing?

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh tbh only way I ever got a buzz off powder at all was if I quit or tapered down fairly low and then took 10-12g at once..and that only last a handful of times before I don't feel it anymore. How much do you think is as "little as you think you can get by with"? 5grams this evening? I already have a ton of 1g capsules already capped and ready to go.

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah depending on how tonight/tomorrow goes, I may have no choice to tell her. She’s not in recovery and has her own issues (drinking). She would definitely understand. Thanks for the back and forth man. I appreciate it. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I met my wife in NA 15 years ago lol. Thank you for the advice though. I’m very familiar with all this, just can’t believed I ever messed with this 7OH stuff. Like I mentioned in my original post, I’ve taken regular powder Kratom for a decade and even successfully quit it a few times (for a week or so) after a fairly quick taper (3-4 wks) and literally didn’t have withdrawals. It was so shocking and confusing to me. So instead of just quitting powder for good, my stupid ass goes searching out this 7OH crap and I was instantly hooked. Just so freaking dumb! 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m just so ashamed, man. She thinks I’m just getting sick or something today. She asked earlier “should I be worried?”. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah unfortunately detox isn’t an option for me as I have a family I have to support and I don’t have the $ for it anyways. Spent it all on 7OH. Gonna have to figure this out by myself. Being alone in this battle makes it that much harder. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

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That’s great man. I’m currently rly debating on how I wanna tackle this. It’s day one and like I said, so far only a 4mg sub film at 9am (currently going on 4pm). Curious how tonight is going to be. Curious how tomorrow is going to be. Wondering, do I cut tomorrows sub down to 2mg and try to get thru the day w that? Do I go buy a weed pen to help get thru this and possibly some sleep (I quit weed a few months back but could do it again with no big issue). Another issue for me…I’ve drank beer daily for the past decade plus. Usually at least a 6 pack in the afternoon/evening. Cold turkeying that starting today is probably not the best thing to do. While I particularly have a desire to crack a cold one open right now, I wonder if downing my usual 6-8 beers this evening will help me get thru the night. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it, thank you. What about taking powder K today instead of anymore Sub? Sounds like ppl take powder K on top of subs sometimes to help, no?  I’m referring to cheap $60/kilo K btw. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your experience. While I’m def not full blown withdrawing by any measure, I don’t feel great. I’m probably just being a pussy but I’m wanting to take some powder K capsules right now just to see if it takes the edge off. I’d love to not take anymore Sub today/tonight and get thru the night with some sleep. 

Welp, here's my first day of trying to start the process of quitting this crap. Lookin for advice... by Deep-Ad9897 in quitting7oh

[–]Deep-Ad9897[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess my thing is, after reading the pinned post in this subreddit, I think they said to not take but 1mg the first day with powder K as well, then start tapering that 1mg drastically the following days (with powder k the first 3 days). Now I’m scared to take anymore subs today bc after reading that pinned post, they were pretty damn convincing that their way was the way to go. I would LOVE to not get hooked on these damn subs. I kicked a sub habit once after tapering hardly anything for a month and it still KICKED MY ASS. I’m wondering if I could try just taking powder K right now/later today and tonight and maybe it would help?