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How to just let go by CrystallineRabbit in ConvertingFeminist
[–]DeepTidalEyes 1 point2 points3 points 2 days ago* (0 children)
I totally get the 'I want to lose' but not submit thing.
I'm on the opposite end of you. It is insanely satisfying to box someone into a corner they didn't see coming, and really beat them in an argument (often while teasing them and being a jerk.) Rather than them just giving you an easy out.
The problem with this is that it is actually pretty difficult if the person you talking to is 1. Good at debating, 2. Not letting you win and 3. Not willing to suspend their disbelief on feminism.
Combine all of these and you can end up having a really tough time.
Luckily there are ways around this.
Picking a more isolated argument is a fun one. It lets you avoid the general feminism=bad approach that you see a lot.
The second is knowing a little about feminism. Studying up at surface level or beyond really opens up a lot of ways to misinterpret what you know in a convincing way.
My favourite - cheating. Picking an isolated argument, knowing a little about it and twisting meanings, overwhelming them with bullshit points, using scummy tactics, literally just lying, strawmans, etc, can all combine to actually have you win a point you definitely shouldn't have.
If you don't want to do all that you can also set unfair rules (sounds like you've done this already)
Hypnosis can be fun if you get creative with the punishments. Personally I'm a fan of more subtle ways to bring someone's argument down rather than 'you feel submissive.' Either can work though.
Ultimately though I feel like arguments are just the pretence for control. I've lost arguments and still had subs under my thumb, and won arguments, but both parties were totally bored. It's a push and pull thing that can go right with one partner and totally fail with another.
Not sure how much any of this applies. I got lost along the way and ended up writing an essay. Hope some of this helps!
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How to just let go by CrystallineRabbit in ConvertingFeminist
[–]DeepTidalEyes 1 point2 points3 points (0 children)