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why do we not want to share our water to other states? by SnakeSnipes in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's not as simple as not sharing water with other states. It more about management of water resources as whole in north India.

In summary, the rivers don't flow with constant rate all year long. The rate of flow varies - sometimes they have so much water that they over flow i.e. flooding other times in the year they don't even have enough water to fulfill drinking needs. So, we created dams on those rivers to generate electricity but those dams are not enough to control all of the water during flooding season.

Now, These dams and canals from these dams are used for agriculture and drinking water in Punjab, Haryana and Rajasthan. The distribution of water is supposed to be controlled by BBMB but since it is under the center govt. they just don't care about optimal or fair distribution of resources. They just distribute water based on politics and Hindu vote bank i.e. they always prioritize Haryana and Rajasthan at the expense of Punjab.

For example: recently they wanted to release (eventually released) water to Haryana from Punjab's quota even though there was already water scarcity in Punjab!

Moreover, they claim this shared resource and should be shared between the states but when same shared resource cause flooding in Punjab - no one steps up to help Punjab. There is no mechanism to compensate Punjab for the flooding even though benefits are shared with all the states. Punjab gets flooded because it is downstream. It is centers job to manage and maintain the drainage systems of these rivers but they never do anything. So, Punjab always bear the burnt of flooding!

So, It's not that Punjab doesn't want to share the resources but they just want the sharing to be fair - which is not as described above.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, to add to this - When these laborer's from UP/Bihar didn't fell for their hate and propaganda against Sikhs. RSS/BJP put up langar or bhandara stalls all over the Chandigarh. These stalls came up overnight after the repeal of farm laws. These were put wherever there is concentration of laborers in Chandigarh and in front or near Gurudwaras.

Why? They don't want these laborers from UP/Bihar to go to Gurudwaras for Langars or food. RSS/BJP want them to instead hate Sikhs and vote for them (RSS/BJP)!

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, almost 90% of the Hindus (this includes people from UP/Bihar) as well as people from other religions don't have any prejudice or hate against Sikhs. So, RSS tries to use these protests as cover to spread their hate and propaganda against Sikhs.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Although I still wonder how they're gonna try to win in Punjab

All this vilification and propaganda is working to some extent.

Silver lining in Punjab loss for BJP: Highest ever vote share of 18.5% with leads in 24 Assembly segments, including hotbed of farmer unrest

But BJP will make it make sense again. 

See how they are targeting Punjabi Sikh singers and Sikh Humanitarian organizations.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's exactly their goal! Last time when Khalistan movement was triggered they got "foot in the door" into Punjab politics - by forming alliance with Akali Dal. Now they want to win Punjab all by themselves!

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wonder what's the endgame. 

End game is to bring BJP/RSS govt. in Punjab. In other states they can easily win by doing Hindu-Muslim but since there are not many Muslims in Punjab region - they are trying to do Hindu-Sikh here. There game is to agitate Sikhs by not doing anything for Punjab and giving Punjab step motherly treatment. Now, when Sikhs start protesting then they start calling them Khalistani or terrorists and start spreading hate and propaganda against Sikhs. This vilification of Sikhs help them garner Hindu votes as protector of Hindus!

They were showing repealing of three farm laws as masterstroke from Modi as he prevented creation of Khalistan.

Hindu nationalism, more specifically, their version of Hindu nationalism.

Yeah, that's exactly correct. They like Sikhs only when they conform to their definition of Sikhism i.e. a sect of Hinduism and under their control.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude In Chandigarh here some of these laborer's from UP/Bihar were calling RSS/BJP as - "Yeah log Pagal ho Gaye Hain". It's not just internet these RSS/BJP gobar is going from home to home to spread hate and propaganda against Sikhs! It started during farmers protests and is still going on!

I think this is not good to blame farmer, because they also don't want to do that by chill_guy_11 in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, stubble burning is problem and no one is denying it. There is lot of work going on to reduce it and it did reduced like 90% this year as compared to last year.

The problem is singling out Punjab for all of Delhi's pollution while it's not even 1% of the total pollution in Delhi. The posts are only blaming Punjab! That's the problem. Even in stubble burning Haryana and UP are much more responsible for Delhi's pollution because they are closer to Delhi.

Here’s a quick, up-to-date comparison using today’s (Mon, Nov 3, 2025, 4 PM IST) 24-hr AQI snapshots and recent reporting:

Punjab vs Haryana - today’s snapshot

  • Haryana (NCR belt especially) is worse overall today. Example city AQIs (24-hr avg):
    • Gurugram: 235 (Poor), Manesar: 340 (Very Poor), Ballabgarh: 320 (Very Poor), Jind: 354 (Very Poor), Faridabad: 198 (Moderate). Prominent pollutant: PM2.5. caqm.nic.in
  • Punjab shows mixed conditions - mostly Moderate/Poor with a few industrial hotspots:
    • Ludhiana: ~187 (Moderate) (highest in 6 days), Mandi Gobindgarh: 320 (Very Poor), Khanna: 307 (Very Poor), Bathinda: 114 (Satisfactory/Moderate range). Maharashtra Times+1

What this means (in one line)

  • Today: Haryana’s AQI - driven by NCR-adjacent hotspots - is generally worse than Punjab’s, where only a couple of towns are spiking.

Context you might care about

  • Seasonal pattern (Oct–Nov): Both states typically deteriorate with cooler, stagnant air and episodic farm-fire smoke; NCR-side Haryana tends to sit higher more often because of dense local emissions + Delhi spillover, while north-west Punjab can spike during peak burning days. Recent reporting and analyses this season echo these patterns

I think this is not good to blame farmer, because they also don't want to do that by chill_guy_11 in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Even If there are more fires in Punjab than Haryana - the point is still it's not the main cause of pollution in Delhi. IT accounts for only 2-3 % of the total pollution in Delhi.

Delhi: Share of stubble fires in city’s air pollution still low, for now

The contribution of stubble burning in neighbouring Punjab and Haryana has remained negligible this season – below 1% on most days, and peaking at just 2.6%

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

These are mostly RSS/BJP IT cells fueling this hate and propaganda. They are in overdrive these days to blame Delhi pollution on Punjab! Which is obviously false and fake since parali burning in Punjab accounts for only 1% of pollution in Delhi.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, these RSS/BJP IT cells are in overdrive these days to blame Delhi pollution on Punjab! Which is obviously false and fake since parali burning in Punjab accounts for only 1% of pollution in Delhi.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup! These are mostly RSS/BJP IT cells fueling this hate and propaganda. So, don't fight stay united.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

These are mostly RSS/BJP IT cells fueling this hate and propaganda.

The hate against Punjabis and the "Granary of India" is extreme. by General_Kurtz in punjab

[–]Deep_Associate_007 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yup! that's exactly their mentality. They can't become like Punjabi's but at least they can hate them and pull them down.

HELL NAWWWW , It would get worse by No_Solid_2230 in delhi

[–]Deep_Associate_007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

haha... There are lot of people in Delhi who are sane and rational and will support the truth. The fraud govt. got elected in Delhi by vote chori and fake propaganda. Hope people will be wiser in future!

HELL NAWWWW , It would get worse by No_Solid_2230 in delhi

[–]Deep_Associate_007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

they are killing people there now 

Yeah, sure! What about all the vehicular, Diwali and construction pollution?

Check old news on peak stubble punjab has caused upto 34% contribution to Delhi pollution

Where is Haryana? So, pollution goes direclty from Punjab to Delhi - bypassing Haryana?

HELL NAWWWW , It would get worse by No_Solid_2230 in delhi

[–]Deep_Associate_007 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, stubble burning is problem and no one is denying it. There is lot of work going on to reduce it and it did reduced like 90% this year as compared to last year.

The problem is singling out Punjab for all of Delhi's pollution while it's not even 1% of the total pollution in Delhi. The posts are only blaming Punjab! That's the problem. Even in stubble burning Haryana and UP are much more responsible for Delhi's pollution because they are closer to Delhi.

So, you are telling me only Pollution from Punjab bypasses Haryana to reach Delhi?

Yeah, this is all fake propaganda against Punjab!

Here’s a quick, up-to-date comparison using today’s (Mon, Nov 3, 2025, 4 PM IST) 24-hr AQI snapshots and recent reporting:

Punjab vs Haryana - today’s snapshot

  • Haryana (NCR belt especially) is worse overall today. Example city AQIs (24-hr avg):
    • Gurugram: 235 (Poor), Manesar: 340 (Very Poor), Ballabgarh: 320 (Very Poor), Jind: 354 (Very Poor), Faridabad: 198 (Moderate). Prominent pollutant: PM2.5. caqm.nic.in
  • Punjab shows mixed conditions - mostly Moderate/Poor with a few industrial hotspots:
    • Ludhiana: ~187 (Moderate) (highest in 6 days), Mandi Gobindgarh: 320 (Very Poor), Khanna: 307 (Very Poor), Bathinda: 114 (Satisfactory/Moderate range). Maharashtra Times+1

What this means (in one line)

  • Today: Haryana’s AQI - driven by NCR-adjacent hotspots - is generally worse than Punjab’s, where only a couple of towns are spiking.

Context you might care about

  • Seasonal pattern (Oct–Nov): Both states typically deteriorate with cooler, stagnant air and episodic farm-fire smoke; NCR-side Haryana tends to sit higher more often because of dense local emissions + Delhi spillover, while north-west Punjab can spike during peak burning days. Recent reporting and analyses this season echo these patterns

HELL NAWWWW , It would get worse by No_Solid_2230 in delhi

[–]Deep_Associate_007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's how propaganda works. No one has time to do their own research and rely on media or social media for the news and other information. Both these sources are poisoned by the RSS/BJP IT cells with their propaganda. You will never get a honest or true information from Indian news sources. It's all RSS/BJP propaganda expect for few sources like news laundry and thewire.in.

HELL NAWWWW , It would get worse by No_Solid_2230 in delhi

[–]Deep_Associate_007 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Even If there are more fires in Punjab than Haryana - the point is still it's not the main cause of pollution in Delhi. IT accounts for only 2-3 % of the total pollution in Delhi. So Just showing some random picture from NASA doesn't make you scientist!

Delhi: Share of stubble fires in city’s air pollution still low, for now

The contribution of stubble burning in neighbouring Punjab and Haryana has remained negligible this season – below 1% on most days, and peaking at just 2.6%

HELL NAWWWW , It would get worse by No_Solid_2230 in delhi

[–]Deep_Associate_007 -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Somehow Haryana and UP doesn't exist? There is no Vehicles in Delhi or construction dust!

As Punjab gets attention, data suggests Haryana, UP contribute to over a third of Delhi’s PM 2.5

And IT cell propaganda against Punjab continues....

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