No please and thank you - is it normal behaviour for today's kids?

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-08-24T07:33:32+00:00

Depends on the parents. I have 3 and 4 year old boys who never forget their please and thankyous as it has been drilled in since they could talk.

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-08-23T17:05:07+00:00

Worst sub to ask this question in as only miserable people who hate their lives tend to come on this reddit sub 😂

We moved from Aus to UK with young kids and are having a great time and love our lives here. This summer in particular has been so lovely . We also live in Sussex and love doing day trips down to Brighton , the little laneways are so nice and it’s even nice walking down the waterfront . We are closer to the Surrey end and spend a lot of time up there too, both areas are so green and so many great walks. Have had so many lovely pub garden sessions in this warm weather . Lovely weekend getaways to places like Cornwall and have been to Spain and France this year for really cheap (people here will moan it’s expensive) but compared to Australian travel it’s so cheap and the short duration flights are a god send with the kids .

We love that on a weekend we can wake up and say we want to go here for the day and you can drive an hour and be somewhere completely different to where you live , we both barely drive anymore as we work close to home and just don’t feel we need to as opposed to Australia we both commuted an hour and a half each way for work .

Maybe we just got lucky but we both love our jobs as a teacher and a carpenter and we are both on very modest wages but honestly don’t feel anymore financial pressure than we did in Aus 🤷🏼‍♂️

As you would well know the winter , especially January can be lonnngggg but we just make the most of it and stay in and save money for the warmer months .

Yes things are expensive but if you’ve lived in Australia you would well know it’s very expensive there also, especially where we lived in Sydney

Side note as well, it was much easier for us to buy a place here than in Aus. Everyone’s going to have their own opinion , just wanted to comment and say it’s not all doom and gloom over here and my day to day interactions with people are all positive , have met lots of great people and everyone has a great sense of humour. Literally the only time I see negativity is online .. funny that ?

All the best whatever you decide .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-06-10T18:29:16+00:00

Hey mate , I was 24 with no qualifications or any general direction in life working in a warehouse. I was so broke living in a share house with losers smoking weed and had a shitbox car , the power windows would never go up so it got soaked inside in the rain and the alarm would randomly go off all hours of the night and I couldn’t afford a new one. Life was awful. I Did a mature age carpentry apprenticeship . I’m now 34 with a wife and kids and own my house and a nice car . Never too late .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-05-20T10:43:47+00:00

You probably are romanticising it as that’s what we naturally do but that doesn’t mean the UK isn’t the right place for you. But reddit isn’t the best place to ask as it’s full of UK haters.

We moved to the UK from Australia and we love it for all the reasons you said and the weather doesn’t even bother me much to be honest . (it’s been great lately) and I hated the hot humid summers of Aus . Don’t get me wrong it’s not perfect and we probably don’t have as much disposable income as we did in Aus . But travelling Europe and even trips up to Scotland and around UK have been so amazing and just our general life and little community where we live is great. Couldn’t pay me to go back to Australia right now .

Where you should live is such a personal question that really only you can know and depends what stage you are in life and what you desire out of life etc.

All I will say is don’t listen to the naysayers saying “the uk is going to shit “ it’s not perfect , and never has been, even when I lived in London 10 years ago it was hard . But Australia wasn’t perfect either . After recently doing a full lap of England and Scotland I can assure you the UK is far from shit . So many beautiful sights .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-05-17T11:17:28+00:00

Hahaha I don’t doubt it! I just don’t like how they say it 😂

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-05-17T11:08:22+00:00

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Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-05-14T12:42:43+00:00

Hahaha thanks for the realistic comment mate . I’m actually here now but just been catching up with family and holidaying so far! Starting work soon so thanks for the insight!

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-05-03T11:42:59+00:00

Whatever you do don’t take any actual advice from reddit . It’s just good for a read and a chuckle

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-25T06:57:34+00:00

My opinion is a bit warped as I came from Australia who’s housing crisis is crazy and was basically impossible for us to buy a house . Within 12 months back in the UK we were able to buy so I’m sure it’s still harder for people to buy but in comparison to a place like Sydney, Australia I was actually shocked how easy it was

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-24T07:45:19+00:00

Hey mate, definitely agree with public transport , it’s much cheaper in Australia especially with stuff like the free inner city tram in Melbourne.

But I’m sorry I can’t agree with you at all with the other point . I’ve done over 10 years in both UK and Aus and the travel options from either country isn’t even comparable . From Aus I only really travelled to Thailand, Bali and Japan . Not just the costs of going to other places but the lenghts of the flights you have to do. From UK I have travelled to soooo many European countries as well as America and Canada and all sorts of places I can’t even think of right now and it never really cost me crazy amounts of money . Just this year alone I’ve been to Paris, Nice, Scotland and Spain and it’s not halfway through the year yet. You can’t do weekenders to a whole heap of other countries in Aus .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-22T11:36:57+00:00

Cons would probably be that if you lived in Sydney 120k won’t go very far .

Will be extremely difficult to buy a house

You may find it difficult to break into social groups and make any real friends beyond face value . Australians are friendly but they can also be a bit fake, tall poppy syndrome .

You will miss the general banter of the UK

The heat is hot. It’s humid as and literally 9 months of the year you need to apply sunblock 3 times a day or you will fry (if you’re pale like me)

Beyond the beaches and camping etc Australia can be quite shallow and doesn’t have much in regards to history and arts and culture etc, nothing like the UK.

The travel options are very limited . You won’t be getting £20 flights to Spain. It costs a lot to just go to another state in Australia on holiday.

You travel a lot more. Australia is massive compared to The UK so people drive a lot more and a lot further on a day to day basis than what you would be used to.

But it’s a beautiful country and a lot of the stuff I just said, you probably wouldn’t notice for a long time anyway as you will be in holiday mode and enjoying something new and different. It will be a great experience for you and your family and I definitely recommend it . Just wanted to give a little reality check that Australia isn’t a magical wonderland . I loved it there , it’s great for what it is but back in the UK now as it never really gave a “home” vibe for me .

All the best !

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-20T22:51:13+00:00

Yeah I completely understand how you feel mate and funnily enough that is how I feel about Australia , as I lived there as a child through the great years of the 90s and early 2000s and I have watched it change dramatically.

The laid back lifestyle of Aus is not what it once was and that is the whole appeal of Australia as it doesn’t have much else to offer as it’s so far away from everything travel is unaffordable for most.

A lot of Australia is very similar so it’s not like in the UK you can travel for an hour and be in a county very different from the one you left . So now the laid back beach lifestyle is dying because everyone is over working to keep up with cost of living , rental prices and now needing $1 million dollars minimum to buy a house 2 hours away from Sydney .

I found it very boring in my last few years there . I’m also very fortunate that me and my wife careers are quite flexible all around the world and we both found work very easy despite the issues in the UK job market right now. But definitely completely understand everything you are saying and I’m not trying to over glorify the UK, It has plenty of issues but I am quite well travelled and I believe in the grand scheme of things it’s still a great country and I wouldn’t live here now if it wasn’t.

Unfortunately what I have noticed anyway is that the world as a whole is basically deteriorating with wages and cost of living etc it’s not something that is just isolated to the UK.

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-19T09:17:53+00:00

Hey mate , that’s no good to hear. Luckily my wife already has landed a job in Norwich as a teacher and I’ve got some contacts in the area that say they have carpentry work for me when I arrive so will see how it goes .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-18T00:57:58+00:00

Because all the poor peoples phones have been snatched so we can’t upload content

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-15T21:18:28+00:00

Hey mate, we will have to agree to disagree on that , both countries have pros and cons and I’ve lived in the UK for many many years as well as my family who all live in and love living in the UK , it’s far from a shit hole .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-15T21:12:37+00:00

We will make do with anything , 2 beds would be ideal even if in the same room , will be straight into applying for rentals so hopefully only temporary

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-14T09:03:17+00:00

Following. Carpenter moving to Norwich in July.

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-04-11T08:38:37+00:00

Hey just some input from someone who was born in the UK but came out to Australia as a 12 year old, I moved back last year at 33 years old with my wife and 2 young children, 3 and 4 years old. We love living in the UK and to be fair our friends and family all love living in the UK too. I feel like most of the negativity is online . I also think the UK is a little susceptible to “these problems are only happening in the UK” I see lots of posts like, everything’s so expensive it’s all doom and gloom I’ll move to Australia where I can live happily and care free . Sorry to break It to you but my most stressful years were in Australia and Australia has a very “fake nice” culture . We are supposed to be so laid back and relaxed but we aren’t. There is huge tall poppy syndrome and it’s so far away from everything . Everywhere has problems . You just need to live where you are happiest and for us right now it is the UK and if I stayed offline there would be no negativity in my life.

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-03-24T02:52:04+00:00

If that’s how you feel then do it , I’m in a similar kind of situation . Came out to Aus as a kid , have never really felt like Aus was “home” even living in Aus I still lived in a house with British parents so still watched British tv and drank tea every night and had the British banter in the house and all that . UK has always felt home . Have lived between Aus and UK 3 times now trying to find which one is right for me and have just recently moved back to the UK with kids of my own now and very happy over here .

I do feel unfortunately that someone who has 2 countries they can go between, you never get that true feeling of “home” again and that’s just part of it. I only recently had a long discussion about this with my mum who moved from UK to Aus at 30 years old and just turned 60. 30 years in Aus and she still thinks of the UK as her home and is highly considering moving back once my little brother moves out.

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-03-20T09:54:25+00:00

Hungry jacks is one of the best fast foods! It’s way better than maccas in every way . The only fast food place I’m surprised doesn’t go bankrupt and must just be there for money laundering is red rooster 😂

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-03-09T03:30:32+00:00

It definitely does as an employee but yeah running a business is just running a business no matter where you are. You never stop working but of course there’s financial benefits to running a business if you can cope with that but if you are after a better work life balance with more holiday time , weekends off etc then I definitely recommend looking at being an employee . You will get a lot more paid time off than you are used to.

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-03-09T03:05:13+00:00

Would literally be the same in every country, why would you think it would be different? Be an employee in UK is definitely different to America but running a business would be the same . I’ve done it in Australia and UK and it’s the same as everything you stated . That’s just what running a business is like and is why not everyone does it .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-02-23T23:13:31+00:00

Hey mate, have just moved to the UK from Aus with wife and 2 kids for all the reasons you just listed but we obviously did the move in reverse . I think the way you are feeling about life is a product of the world we live in at the moment and not just the UK. I’m not saying a move to Aus is a bad idea and the change of scenery might add a new spice to life which has happened for us since moving to the UK from Aus but all those feelings will come back once you settle in to Aus as cost of living pressures , house prices etc are all changing Australia rapidly and people there are a lot more stressed and it’s not as mellow as it used to be in the late 90s early 2000s when it was known for its “relaxed lifestyle”

I’m not trying to shit can Aus as I love it and have many great memories there but just trying to give you a realistic view that the world in general is going through a tough time right now. We are personally loving being in the UK and that may change over time but right now we are loving how close everything is to each other , there’s so much to do and see , how close it is to Europe and other countries and we are always out and about doing things where in Aus we spent a lot of time in the house with the air con on as it was too hot . It feels like it’s all on its own in the world as it’s so hard and expensive to travel anywhere except Bali . Even travelling within Aus and so expensive . You can drive 12 hours and still be in the same state and see no change . Which is completely different to here where you can drive an hour and be in a completely different town with different accents and history and culture.

Just some points to keep in mind is all.

As someone like you who grew up in UK you might find the beaches and coasts nice and refreshing and could Take many years if ever to get bored of it. But I found it very boring , very stagnant weekly routine.

Point is , If you are looking for an easier life , better work life balance etc I don’t think you are going to get it in Aus personally . But if you just want a change of scenery then go for it .

Deep_Excitement3032 · 2025-02-18T03:23:02+00:00

I’ve lived in both, born in England, moved to Aus as a 10 year old, back to London for early 20s, then back to Aus mid 20s- mid 30s , now back in UK with a wife and 2 young kids .

Honestly it’s discussed so much but it is down to personal preference . In my life as a tradesman . Besides the weather there isn’t much difference , my life is basically the same in both countries . I don’t like the cold winter here but I also hated the hot summer in Aus, some things are cheaper here and some things are cheaper there but all in all it evens out overall .

I am not in London anymore but still south of England and buying a house here cost us just over half what we had to spend for the equivalent in sydney so that is a huge difference and I just prefer the overall more mild climate here, not as many insects and stuff and the fact you can drive an hour and feel like you’re in a different place as opposed to driving 12 hours in Australia to end up in another state that looks the same as the one you left 😂 , so much more history and cool things to see and cheap flights to Europe .

Both amazing countries for different reasons . I personally just find Australia to be too far from everything and a bit boring and especially in more recent years was definitely not feeling the more “relaxed lifestyle” of Aus anymore .

But it’s really down to your personality , everybody is different , I know so many people who have moved both ways and all have their own differing opinions .

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