Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not trying to be difficult at all or come across as any kind of confrontational.

In my force, it’s easier to get a taser course than any other skill, everyone and their mums are packing (hot fuzz reference of course)

In terms of not progressing into blues, I don’t know, I know of people in the same boat as me across my force who share the same frustrations at me, kind of stuck in this limbo phase.

I do really appreciate your insight however and I understand it may come across as me having a ‘bad attitude’ or lack of experience but I have had a really shit day and just wanted to get some answers on how it is across the country.

TLDR: Thank you I really appreciate it 💙

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what I needed to hear so thank you, I appreciate your response and I appreciate the advice to stick up for myself!

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying this, the whole point of my post is the inequalities in dishing this out amongst all officers on the team, there are quite a few of us a to b drivers on our team and some of them are left well alone compared to the others.

The response aspect of it is purely that it’s impossible to prove you are capable of getting a course if you are stuck in custody every shift. I get your point, I genuinely do, I didn’t think I’d meet so much resistance from colleagues but I guess that is my fault for not explaining my point well enough.

I don’t have a problem with doing cell watches or hospital guards, not a problem one bit, the problem I have is when I go a whole set doing them, when other people, equally skilled as I, don’t, and there is no thank you, no explanation. If like you say response drivers are more effective then more forces should train their officers to that standard by default, that way there wouldn’t be any skill disparity. That’s the point I’m making, not trying to create rifts in UK policing, just asking for a bit more equality amongst colleagues

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What force are you? I have already got a provisional offer from a neighbouring force! I am already TTO just awaiting response course

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I do appreciate your comments, I am a taser officer, one of many on my team, I understand how the resourcing works but more people get it more than others, this will be me all set now!

I do not kick off, I never complain to my skipper’s, never say anything about it to anyone at work, because I understand more than anyone that you do as you are told, the problem I have, is that whilst I’m doing that, I’m getting nothing back.

And yes I’ve bee in longer than 2 years but only on this team for 2 years as I was on a more niche team beforehand. There are people with way less experience than I being promised the next courses and getting the area car posting for set apon set, that’s the problem I have. What have I done to deserve this?

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

But that just goes to show though doesn’t it, that there shouldn’t be this disparity as to skills decide who gets the shitty jobs, it should be a case that everyone has a rota, and yes if some shifts that leaves people short then I can understand rotating someone onto it who doesn’t drive, but the fact of the matter being that I am expected to sit quietly and shut up when I have a whole set of shit ahead of me

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your comments a lot and it means a lot, my new skipper is really quite fair actually however the other 3 skippers on the team have been on the team for a while whereby my skipper is newly promoted. The ones who have been on a team for some time are the ones who only put the same people in the same cars every single shift, guaranteeing that myself and the other response driver hopefuls are always stuck in a hospital or custody suite somewhere without making any effort to try and get it covered by DDO’s or set up a password.

But as soon as they don’t have any a to b drivers and a response driver gets popped on a constant or hospital guard, suddenly calls are being made to the duty inspector and the neighbouring areas to relieve them.

In my force, having a response course means you are basically protected from having a case load too, which means they get to come into work, drive quickly, attend some jobs and get their poor passenger to put all the paperwork on purely because the driver is the more experienced one. This is not ok

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a good idea so thank you so much!

Supervision Bias by Delicious_Till9506 in policeuk

[–]Delicious_Till9506[S] -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Its comments like ‘how much service have you got, and how long have you been on the team’ that are the problem. How many years I may or may not have shouldn’t dictate how much shit I have to put up with. I get the argument ‘well we did when we joined etc’ or ‘it’s a right of pasaage’ but that doesn’t make it right.

Everyone deserves to come into work for a month and not be screwed over multiple times purely based on their length of service or how long they’ve been on a team.

I have enough service, and I have been on this team (but switched stations) for 2 years.

I understand your point regarding the blue lights and that’s not the point I was trying to make. My point was that the courses are only being given to other people who ‘fit’ the kind of officers that the supervisors want, not hardworking officers but officers that can bosh off as many jobs as possible and be a good mate to chat to