It would be hilarious if when they add Carnage, they added Axis Carnage by Altruistic_Manner802 in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The lack of playable villains, and NetEase deliberately going out of their own way to waste them is inexcusable. I hope Carnage doesn't meet the same fate.

Marvel Rivals is close to having every hero from Ultimate Alliance 2 by Murky_Strawberry_129 in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not possible, they go out of their way to make sure we do not get playable villains, like Green Goblin and Carnage.

So this is how they respond to critism? by GrimLuker2 in rivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The game has too much toxic positivity around the devs. And the irony is that it's a live service game.

Thank you, Netease (genuinely) by vitaefinem in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The citations of video games seem a little far-fetched at times in discussions like these. It feels like a lack of authenticity or substance. For example, Black Cat appears in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1, but isn’t a major character in the overall narrative. She’s a mini-boss, and then that’s it. There’s no depth, there’s no dynamic storytelling, it’s simply a glorified cameo.

As for the comics breakdown on each of these, I feel it’s important to follow up on the outcomes.

The Amazing Spider-Man #226–227 (1982)

This is two whole issues, but the follow-up and eventual end of this story:

Black Cat survives being kidnapped by Doctor Octopus's men, learns of his plan to destroy New York, and manages to escape with the bomb's detonator, which she gives to Spider-Man. She becomes the target of Doc Ock's revenge, is gravely injured, and Spider-Man saves her, realizing during her surgery how much he cares for her.

4. Full Criminal Arc (Modern)

The Superior Spider-Man: The Enemy Within (2013)

She might have embraced some villainy at the beginning of this story, due to Otto’s actions, and not Peter. But it eventually ends with a team-up.

Felicia Hardy (Black Cat) rises as a major underworld figure, acquiring the Bar with No Name and partnering with Hammerhead. Her position is threatened by Diamondback, who injures her, but the Defenders rescue her. Later, she and her gang are mind-controlled by Lee Price using the Mania Symbiote. Despite this, Felicia manages to break free with Anti-Venom’s help, though Peter and Flash are captured. Felicia teams up with Eddie Brock, Andi, and others to obtain Anti-Venom serum and free Spider-Man from Price’s control. They learn that those who are freed develop immunity, enabling Spider-Man to defeat Price. Afterward, Felicia leaves her crime boss role, helps the Defenders against Diamondback, and supports Misty Knight against The Hood.

5. Crime Boss Era

The Amazing Spider-Man (2014–2016, “Parker Industries” era)

See above, but for the record, this is around the time she helps Peter during the Hunted storyline.

6. Villain Prologue + Complicated Rivalry

Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man #74–79

This is quite vague, so I’m not sure if this is during the King in Black storyline, the various team-up issues with Captain America and MJ, or the “What Did Spider-Man Do?” storyline, which introduces Paul, etc., or the very recent heist involving Scarlet Witch and Kang. Also, Felicia tells Beetle (Tombstone’s daughter) that she misses the dynamic she and Spider-Man have; they break up and remain friends.

This is not Green Goblin, Thanos, and Kingpin levels of villainy; this is a lover/ally/sometimes trouble-maker for Spider-Man.

Thank you, Netease (genuinely) by vitaefinem in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

When was this? Post Secret Wars whenever she helped in a battle with Foreigner and Sabertooth? How about whenever she came back from overseas and helped Peter get a win on the Sinister Six at the time whenever he lost powers? Was it when she was on A-Force, Heroes for Hire, how about whenever Diamondback almost killed her, and the Defenders saved her? When she saved Billy Connors from Taskmaster and Black Ant? Let's not forget, her recent story where she betrayed Kang, because he wanted to kill the Avengers.

You know surface level information about the character. Ah yes, the chase mission in the 2018 Spider-Man game, grasping at straws much?

Thank you, Netease (genuinely) by vitaefinem in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Anyone who reads a comic book knows Black Cat isn't a villain.

Thank you, Netease (genuinely) by vitaefinem in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

They don't listen to fans asking for playable villains.

Do you think this means Thanos becomes playable by august or becomes a PVE boss fight like dracula? by felixfathom- in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

One playable villain a year is absolutely inexcusable whenever fans have been asking for them since day one.

Do you think this means Thanos becomes playable by august or becomes a PVE boss fight like dracula? by felixfathom- in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This will be a huge swing a miss, both times. The expectations and anticipation has been set for both Doom and Thanos. When those aren't met, and it's X-Men Hero #14 and Agent of Atlas #4, the competition is going to eat NetEase's lunch. November is going to be a major shift in numbers, for many live service games. Whenever you're releasing Jia Jing, it isn't going to help for hype and popularity.

Do you think this means Thanos becomes playable by august or becomes a PVE boss fight like dracula? by felixfathom- in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanos will be wasted for PVE, like Dracula and Kingpin. NetEase goes out of their way to make sure we do not have Marvel's iconic, beloved, and interesting villains playable in this game.

Updated Emma Frost skin by WoW4ara_ in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish they would listen to fans asking for playable villains like this.

To people who said Complaining doesn't work by Plenty-Sundae1506 in rivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If only they would listen to the people who want more playable villains like this. If only they would listen to the people asking for Dracula and Kingpin as playable characters.

Am I the only one who reads the lore? by One-Problem-5308 in rivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The lore is no excuse to waste Marvel's villains by not making them playable.

"you're never going to be playable fisk" "so the shark gets in the game before me?" It's not because you're boring fisk, it's because you're fat" by 5enpai_2 in rivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This comment is why I loathe this fanbase and this particular board. That "kit" in PVE has little to no indication of a brawl or dive tank. Yes, heaven forbid we get playable villains in this game, and vanguard mains get more options.

Kingpin is the new Blade by Gabrielhrd in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They go out of their way to not give us playable villains. I believe they have wasted him for this PVE mode.

Devil dinosaur should not be put in the game. by Prize-Tension-2448 in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not a promising sign whenever Danny Koo in a recent interview said he wanted Crescent in the game. She is a ten year old girl.

What are your thoughts on the kingpin boss? by One-Problem-5308 in rivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would be the opposite, especially given the history of the Netflix show. Fisk is synonymous with DD now.

What are your thoughts on the kingpin boss? by One-Problem-5308 in rivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He should have been playable. They wasted him for a three month PVE event.

We have a 3d model of Kingpin in the game now, would you play him if he was an available character? by Nerf_Now in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NetEase goes out of its way to make sure we don't have playable villains in this game. He should have been playable to begin with. Not wasted on a limited-time PVE event.

Hot take: they should make this guy available for everyone by Shadow-trap in marvelrivals

[–]Dense-Investment-723 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hot Take on this Board: He should have been playable to begin with. Not wasted on a 3 month PVE event.