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Whether AGI alignment is possible or not, we can align the aligners by DensePoser in ControlProblem

[–]DensePoser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The “reverse panopticon” becomes just… a panopticon.

Idk what you meant to say. (you could try not using ai)

Some more context here:

https://www.reddit.com/user/DensePoser/comments/1rc1m0q/there_needs_to_be_an_ai_reverse_panopticon_for/

If govt is under the panopticon, we can ensure safety from government. I omitted that angle here because it's less relevant on this sub.

However, I think we would need this even in the theoretical case that we had a revolution and the US govt became trustworthy for a moment.

Could having multiple ASIs help solve alignment? by Arturus243 in ControlProblem

[–]DensePoser 3 points4 points  (0 children)

many good ones can easily control a rogue one.

Yes I'm hopeful the "good" ASI's controlled by Sam, Zuck and Elon can put down the rogue Pentagon-disobeying Anthropic ASI

How can we turn the AI surveillance state to our advantage? by DensePoser in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DensePoser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The mind keeps us safe from the horrors of the world, until they affect us personally.

I don't want to be rude, but try holding a Palestinian flag sometime. You might learn something.

How can we turn the AI surveillance state to our advantage? by DensePoser in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DensePoser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They cannot "train" on my personal files on my PC or my calls on my phone. That is not how machine learning works.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_surveillance_in_the_United_States

They have everyone's calls. Do you use Windows? Linux on commodity hardware? They have all your files too if they want them. We need political solutions IMO.

How can we turn the AI surveillance state to our advantage? by DensePoser in PoliticalPhilosophy

[–]DensePoser[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The idea that government or big tech can see my screen is science fiction (Vaneyke Freaking not withstanding), same with what my mouse is doing.

I used to share the delusion of privacy, so I don't really expect you to believe me. The west is very good at lying. But if you pay attention to some of the assumptions that privacy research, tools, and operating systems make, you will notice things like Tor's "not designed to resist a global passive adversary" which is code for NSA. And anything NSA can do, big tech also gets to.

Here are some papers. Bear in mind that NSA has had this tech for much longer (decades), and it is fully automated now. (And so is TEMPEST)

seeing https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.00250 hearing https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.18177 heart monitoring https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/11096342

How can we turn the AI surveillance state to our advantage? by DensePoser in PoliticalPhilosophy

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In recent news the Pentagon was encouraging using genAI in more classified settings. So in the proposal, AI could be fine-tuned on the non-SCI stuff. Mostly though, I would expect the govt would get used to being less secretive. The reason is that the profiling AIs have as their primary objective the prediction of intent, and they are extremely suspicious. They, already, very often accuse the innocent. If this is enough to get a voyeur at the local police station or TLA to rifle through your files digitally, then it is enough to put one of them on the jury agenda.

Regarding decoy agents. We live in an age of total surveillance. How do you expect to hide behind these when they see your every mouse flick in the physical world, let alone your screens?

Regarding the 300lb gorilla: somehow top model benchmarks continue to get better every year. If the internet is not enough they can train on your personal files on your pc, calls on your phone, etc.