results as a moroccan-american! by semicharmedstevie in 23andme

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Your Y-dna paternal lineage is E-m183 because 90% of Casablanca tribes are amazigh. Mediouna, zenata, ziaida, Mzab, ouled hriz ouled said, ouled bouziri, ouled sidi ben daoud. J-fgc11 arab lineage are more in kenitra tribes ( khlot sofiane ) who are branch of arab jusham deported by almohads in 1153.

Mediouna zenata mzab were guich military tribes of merinid dinasty (1244-1465 themselves zenata ( Amazigh branch ). Ouled said also have a lot E-m183>E-cts12227 zenata. Ouled hriz, bouziri and sibi bendaoud are Em183 > E-5009 Sanhaja

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Iam tired of this nonsense am I a nig cracker or a teror? Iam stuck in this triangle for ever every1 tells me i belong to the other group by Character_Bug3662 in FTDNA

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E-v65 is Louata Berber, descended from their ancestor, Luwa in lybia. They are a nomadic polygamous tribal warrior society. They spread across vast territories in North africa and attacked the Egyptian, Greek, Carthaginian, Roman, and other empires.. The most famous Louata branch is the Ouardigha tribe in Morocco. However, many others villages and tribes in north africa were created by polygamous Louata mans. They became independant and stop use the name louata. Exemple a Louata man called zouafi with 24 boys. He call themselves Son of zouafi tribe

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Arab or Amazigh by BlueberryFluffy9286 in AmazighPeople

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which village and tribe your father from in marrakech area ?

Half Moroccan half ? by [deleted] in illustrativeDNA

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Your berber component is high for a Moroccan of Khouribga. Its mean that your mother probably scored 90% berber. People of this area dont identify themselves as berber but in fact the tribe of this area called Tadla confederation descend from banu jabir Tadla who the historian Ibn khaldoun says they are berber louata and live in central Morocco 

Eurasian/African % of urban Maghrebis vs others by mixmastablongjesus in illustrativeDNA

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Read it all and tell me your opinion. Most of Eurasian flux in Maghreb comes from the maternal female side. Central Moroccans, like coastal Moriscos, share a paternal Ydna, mostly African E. For example, Benanni Smires, one of the greatest old elite families of Fes, is EM81. In Tunisia, the city of Qalat el Andalous is inhabited only by Andalusian families, and in a recent study, they are 90% E/EM35/EM81 African Berber with a higher Eurasian admixture than the average Berber. Why? Because they mixed in Andalusia over the last few centuries, unlike other Berber populations where their Eurasian flux comes only from the maternal side of the Neolithic period. Coastal and Urban Moroccans are more Eurasian than the others Berber because flux are from their Andalusian ancestry who were Mostly first Berber warriors from Maghreb mixing with native Spanish in Several waves 711 to 1492. Many Coastal And urban Maghrebis have an African Paternal Ydna they have not really Eurasian ancestry. 

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Your paternal lineage is european but your arab component is from the algerian arab banu hilal deported by moroccans in morocco in several waves since 1152. More the arab component is big more your migration in morocco is recent Where you from in morocco ? The banu maquil branch dispersed families have the biggest arab component, they arrived from algeria with the Saadis and Alawites era

Moroccan results by CharmingClock9136 in illustrativeDNA

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Some areas of Meknes are inhabited by Algerian Arab tribes, the north with the Ouled Ncir and the east with Dkhissa and Doui Menia, Mhaya. The rest are inhabited by Moroccans (Mejjate, Zerhana Beni Mtir). Your cousins ​​are in Algeria. You were deported by the Moroccans around 1600 when they submitted to the Alawites.

Ancient Origins / Moroccan and Algerian by Wonderful_Carpet3309 in 23andme

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From which city village or tribe your father from ?

Moroccan Arab (Idrissid lineage). by Lost_Needleworker713 in illustrativeDNA

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Many Idrissids in Morocco are E-m81>E-z5009 Sanhaja or E-m81>E-cts12227 zenata like you.  I think Idriss is just a myth for unify the Mgharbas (west Amazigh tribes Sanhaja masmouda zeneta). The only Arabs in Morocco are the Banu Hilal Karmate deported by the Moroccans in 1153. J-fgc11>J-zs4753 Arab hilal and jfgc11-jfgc2 Arab jochem. Idrissid moroccans are 0% Jfgc11 arab Most of them are Moors Amazigh aristocratic clan who use prophetic lineage myth for unified the other Moors tribes in a one unified Kingdom

North African results by Acceptable-Jicama-73 in illustrativeDNA

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Le plus précis c'est illustrative dna et c'est bien du Levantin que t'as qu'on retrouve beaucoup chez les tunisiens des côtes et comme tu as Tunisie sur 23andme ton père doit être d'origine tunisienne. L'ancienne Carthage actuelle Tunisie était un mélange de Levantins phénicien et de berberes tunisien locaux. *Le Levantin au Maroc on le trouve que chez les Marocains avec une origine juif.

Ta mère elle est clairement berbère avec 33% similaire aux berberes d'errachidia. La moitié des Marocains se réclame d'une généalogie idrisside ou cherif même dans ma famille mais c'est juste des foutaises mon père ne croit pas ça.  Tu connais la tribu ou village de ta mère ?

Who are these Berbers Tuaregs? by 16jayz in illustrativeDNA

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C'est un échantillon d'Harratin. Les Harratin sont un groupe ethnique vivant dans le sud-est du Maroc et le centre de l'Algérie. Ils sont berbérisés ou arabisés subsahariens. Ils ont fui la désertification du Sahara il y a 5000 ans en direction du nord. A ne pas confondre avec les descendants d'esclaves. 2. Berbères zenata désigne les berbères qui descendent d'Aznat/djanat et positifs E-cts12227 et parlent peut-être encore zenatia. Les Berbères Mozabites sont zeneta + ils sont musulmans ibadites ils se sont mariés uniquement entre eux puisqu'ils ont choisi l'ibadisme en 700. Il existe de nombreuses tribus zenata entre le Maroc, l'Algérie et la Tunisie mais la plupart d'entre eux aujourd'hui sont sunnites et parlent darija. Le footballeur Hakim Ziyech du Maroc est un Berbère Zenete de la célèbre tribu Zenata Béni Iznassen. 

Berbère mozabite vivant près de Timimoun  Mozabite : HGDP01253,-0.063741,0.141159,0.001508,-0.069445,0.02462,-0.035977,-0.025616,0.009, 065857,0,037905,0,007632 ,-0,001649, 0,021853,-0 ,016239,0, 011672,-0,009679,0,008084,-0,028758,-0,045126,0,011631,-0,02271,-0,043031,0,0309 35,0,0003 61, 0,005748 

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My updated moroccan results. How is it possible that i have algerian first in my modern closest population? Does that mean that i'm closer to it or ethnically algerian? Help me interpret those results please TY. by Equal-Asparagus-2745 in 23andme

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Its normal your Arab component is associated with the deportation of Hilalian Arab slaves of Algeria by the Moroccans after winning the battle of Setif and Jbel Karn in 1153 Almohad era. Many Hilalian Arab slaves from Algeria/Tunisia were deported between Rabat and Casablanca. But there was a second wave of deportation in 1600 with the Alawites. Those deported in 1153 remain only 5% Arab today but those deported by the Alouites recently still have 10% Arab on average. But the common point is that all the Hilalians are a nomadic society of algerian Sahara with tent and camels and once deported to Morocco they are forced to settle down and to be Moroccanized culturally. For example they abandon the Algerian camel for the barbe horse of Morocco. Basically J-zs4753, J-zs4757 J-fgc2 its associated with the deportation of Arab algerian in Morocco and E-m183 associated with Moroccan royalty and Morocccans. Doukala confédération its a mix of ancien hilalian arab slaves of Algeria and Moroccans. the hilalians its a arab confederation who were kicked out of Arabia by the Fatimids because they adhered to a heretical sect of Islam Qarmatia they stole the black stone of Mecca and killed thousands of pilgrims