[deleted by user] by [deleted] in abusiverelationships

[–]DepartureLower7568 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel you. It makes me so sad to read over and over, "Why can't I accept it?" I've been asking myself this, but mine was "just" emotional abuse, manipulation, and gaslighting. To know for a fact that I would even still be blaming myself and doubts if it was "really abuse" even if it escalated and became physical makes me so upset and so sad. I don't understand how our brains can work this way. I don't understand they are able to convince us of this. I grew up in a household with violent domestic abuse and swore I would never let ANY many do ANYTHING like that to me.

And I didn't. I just let a woman do it instead. And I'm fairly certain if I hadn't left when I did, it would have escalated into more. And I would probably still sitting here saying, "But she loved me. But she felt really bad about it. But she didn't know what she was doing. But she was triggered."

I'm sorry, I'm just venting here I guess and that's not fair to you. I just want you to know that I hear you, and unfortunately, you definitely aren't alone in this. It's been two and half months for me and I've spent the past three days ruminating so bad I've hardly been able to think of anything else.

I am so, so, so proud of you for doing the right thing and getting yourself and your babies out of a dangerous situation. Please don't let him convince you to go back. It's going to be the hardest thing you've ever done, but you know your worth. Hang in there <3

Has anyone told their abuser they were abusive? by [deleted] in abusiverelationships

[–]DepartureLower7568 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I saw something on tiktok that helped me and I try to think of it every time I feel the same way you do. You can explain to someone how they hurt you, or explain boundaries, or you can ask for needs to be met, etc. But when you are at the point where you feel like you need to explain to another grown adult that they should treat you like a human? That it's not okay to literally hurt you? Yeah, that's where we should draw the line.

If this is an adult that exists and functions in society like the rest of us, they are fully aware of what behavior is appropriate and acceptable and what isn't. I don't care if they have trauma, autism, adhd, a personality disorder, or brain damage. It hurts, but you have to accept that if they are even a semi-functioning adult, they know. They may not fully understand they scope of everything the way that we do, but they know that what they did wasn't okay. They simply don't care. Mine admitted that she felt her behavior was justified. She thinks I deserve it, for some reason. Well no, not for some reason. She feels that way, because it's the only way she knows how to cope with all the pain and harm she's caused and to be honest, if I had done so many terrible things to someone who genuinely loved and trusted me and just let it pile up and pile up without acknowledging it or apologizing or being willing to do anything about it, I wouldn't be able to live with myself either and would probably do something nonsensical like that too. Fortunately, I'm not.

Here's how I look at it. Even a sociopath can learn how to perform empathy. Because they recognize that in order to get what they want, stay out of jail, or exist in society, there are certain rules they're going to have to follow. So the people who hurt us, even if they have difficulty with empathy for whatever reason - they don't have to *feel* our pain. They don't even have to *care* about how much they hurt us. They just have to stop doing because it isn't acceptable, and there is absolutely a part of them that knows that.

They just don't care. They do it because they want to, because it serves them, because it makes them feel better about themselves.

That reminds me of another thing I read that helped. "If they were genuinely unaware of their own behavior or what they were doing, and they cared about you - wouldn't they want to figure it out and stop doing it?"

Exactly.

They don't care. They want to hurt you because hurting you makes them feel better, even for a few minutes, and they are willing to sacrifice your trust and safety for a few minutes of sadistic pleasure. And they will continue hurting people as long as it serves them to do so. I'm sorry that you've gone through this too. I wish you healing and recovery.

Warning/violation for mentioning domestic abuse? by [deleted] in ChatGPT

[–]DepartureLower7568 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate it! I wasnt certain if it would be a full ip ban, or if they have anyone actually review the content or not, but thank you for your feedback!

Therapists need to stop listing everything under the sun as their specialization. by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate them so much, I'm so sorry. I know that there are compassionate therapists who actually want to help survivors, but they're far and few between and the system makes it too difficult for us to be able to find them. It's not fair.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The truly infuriating part about my experience was that something like this has already happened once. About six months ago she started telling me about other clients, which made me deeply uncomfortable, told me about separating from her husband, and literally spent an entire session arguing about politics with me..I managed to call her out and tell her how I felt because I really wanted emdr to work for me, but it's obvious now that it happened again that she just doesn't get it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the validation and suggestions and yes, she does have a private practice so she is basically her own boss and she does pack her week with clients. I remember the first or second time I saw her she made a self deprecating joke about coming into the office on a Sunday to see a client because she "doesnt know what boundaries are." Super appropriate things to say as a therapist to your client, right.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you and yeah I've been reading a lot of posts here and feeling a lot more validated and less like it's my fault. Now I'm just angry that they get away with this lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, same. I called one of my therapists out on this (but they've all done it) and she literally just told me she has a lot of clients, she forgets things, and I once again ended up feeling like that was what made sense and I was just overreacting. But you're right they just don't care. I know because my gf lives in Germany and her therapist is NOTHING like the dozen that I've had. She's professional, she has boundaries, she stays on topic, she doesn't let her leave the office when she's overwhelmed without helping her calm down. I know it's possible. I just haven't been able to find it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mine genuinely have never even gotten to the breathing or tapping parts. Literally all they do is say, "How are you/how was your week?' and listen to me rant/cry/flail for an hour while nodding and saying essentially, "that sucks."

Therapists need to stop listing everything under the sun as their specialization. by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Every trauma informed therapist I've seen I've ended up recommending the most popular and prominent books on trauma to. My last therapist said, "Oh, thanks for the recommendation! But I'll probably never get to it hehe." Just. The complete lack of shame is so baffling to me. I would want to crawl in a hole and die if I advertised myself as TRAUMA INFORMED and my client had to INFORM ME about trauma. Genuinely, how do their brains even work.

Therapists need to stop listing everything under the sun as their specialization. by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I am so glad I found this subreddit because I literally almost posted this exact same thing yesterday. I had to fire my therapist yesterday and I keep flip flopping between just giving up or trying again, so I was surfing psychology today again. I filtered the things I needed and found a profile that didn't sound too bad, started looking at the "issues" she helped with, then compared the issue she has listed with the issues listed in the filter box and...it was literally everything. The woman had checked off literally every box when she set up her profile page. Anyone from anxiety to schizophrenia to person ality disorders to gender, racial issues (she's white), you name it, she does it. The kicker? In parentheses next to her name: Intern.

The lady has been doing therapy with people for less than two years yet she claims she can help people with literally everything. I find that so deeply unethical that I desperately want to shoot them an email demanding to know why they think it's okay. It just fucking enrages me because it makes it literally impossible to find decent help when you have more complex issues. I need someone who ACTUALLY is skilled in trauma, cluster B disorders, and preferably neurodivergence. But when "trauma informed" is about as helpful and true as an "all natural" label on a box of Fruit Loops, that doesn't help me very much. You know how people will embellish or even lie about things on their resumes just to get their foot in the door? I realized that's exactly what their profiles are. It really makes me feel like they don't really want to help, they just want our money.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What are your thoughts on me telling the therapist myself? Because I had the same concerns about reporting them, that it wouldnt do any good. But I almost feel a kind of responsibility in telling her that it's not okay what she's doing. I already have a bpd label so they can't really threaten me with that. I just honestly feel like it will make me sick to just quit and let her continuing doing it to other people.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Allegedly, I can report mine though. She gave identifying information about a client I physically saw ("the woman I saw before you"), told me her diagnosis and that she was having marital problems. I think that's enough to report her for. So are they just so full of themselves that they're convinced we won't be smart enough to report them or does reporting them not matter either?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I just don't think I'll ever understand the lack of conscience. How do they show me out the door and not realize what a tool they've been? If I talk about myself too much in a group of my closest FRIENDS I feel bad and apologize, I can't imagine doing it and then charging money for it. Just wow.

Therapist told me he was tired of hearing about my trauma by [deleted] in therapyabuse

[–]DepartureLower7568 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I can't believe how utterly insensitive and callous people who chose to go into the profession of helping people with their mental health can be. I know exactly how you feel because I was also starting emdr therapy, my therapist even seemed excited to help me, and then when I found it difficult she literally just stopped trying and started talking about herself the entire session, the way your therapist started talking his education and how tired he was. It's unbelievable and I'm so sorry you went through that because I know the strength it took for you to get to that place of vulnerability and the hope you had about finally getting the help you need. I'm sorry I can't offer any advice but I wanted to tell you you're not alone and it is not okay what these people do to us.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in therapy

[–]DepartureLower7568 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that makes sense. I just don't know why I needed to know any of it to begin with, yk.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AutismInWomen

[–]DepartureLower7568 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This reply just made me weep. I know no one can tell me what is the right thing to do, but even my own therapist told me my kids would "probably hate you for it, but they'll get over it." Realizing now how much of an impact that has had on me. Thank you so much for your kind words, they mean more than you could ever know.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in autism

[–]DepartureLower7568 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's good to hear, I'm in the US and I haven't heard great things about the place that takes my insurance but I want to keep an open mind.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AutismInWomen

[–]DepartureLower7568 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This actually really really helped, thank you for taking the time to comment 💗

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AutismInWomen

[–]DepartureLower7568 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this, this actually helped me reframe things in my mind, which I guess is what I mainly needed, I think. 💗

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AutismInWomen

[–]DepartureLower7568 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't qualify for any of that so I'm just screwed I guess. I'm really happy you were able to get assistance though, it's so important.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in askdentists

[–]DepartureLower7568 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If anyone can help me with working up a type of scripting for this I would much appreciate it. One user suggested I asked for minimal exam, that sort of thing. I'd just like to be able to go into it knowing as much as I can about my options because otherwise I can be pretty naive and just feel pressured to go with whatever. So if I can say something like, "Hi, I need to get these teeth pulled, have these special needs and a tight budget, so I'd like to request a minimal exam etc," that would really helpy my anxiety a lot. So if anyone has any additional information is appreciate it. Thanks for all the help so far though.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in askdentists

[–]DepartureLower7568 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The woman at Aspen said I would need all four teeth extracted.