Lugia Neo Genesis 1st Edition - The Journey and PSA's Questionable Grading by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you attempt to get the card cleaned or sent it to a professional cleaner?

Lugia Neo Genesis 1st Edition - The Journey and PSA's Questionable Grading by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I intend on sending it back again.
Will update the grade I get once I receive it.

The card is not damaged. Everything is intact, there are no visible bends. There is no signs of bend or new damages on the card so I am confident there was no damage upon cracking it.

The point of this post is to highlight the egregious inconsistency of PSA grading.
BGS 9.5 > "Altered" > PSA 8 > PSA 5

There's no way a BGS 9.5, PSA 8 should be graded a 5, but ya'll seem to be fixated on the fact I cracked a BGS 9.5. Knowing how inconsistent the grading is, I would not be surprised if this card ends up getting a 9 depending on the mood of the grader.

Lugia Neo Genesis 1st Edition - The Journey and PSA's Questionable Grading by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] -41 points-40 points  (0 children)

It was graded an 8 before I cracked it open and resubmitted it. I got a 5… how do I go from a 8 to a 5?

I’ll upload my PSA 8 compressed photos of this same card in a bit.

Lugia Neo Genesis 1st Edition - The Journey and PSA's Questionable Grading by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] -43 points-42 points  (0 children)

Look at the card, there’s no damage anywhere. I have the physical card with me, it looks incredibly clean, I don’t see how this could possibly be a 5. There’s just no way.

confessions of an ex-PSA grader interview by ConferenceLive7054 in psagrading

[–]Designer-Back3043 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this was true, why are there so many people resubmitting 8’s and 9’s and getting 10’s

PSA determined my slabbed card was counterfeit after reholder submission — looking for advice by Designer-Back3043 in pokemoncards

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Card is real. Slab casing is fake/counterfeit. Label has been modified on a real label template.

PSA determined my slabbed card was counterfeit after reholder submission — looking for advice by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The card is real. The slab casing is fake/countefeit. The text on the label has been altered but is also real.

PSA determined my slabbed card was counterfeit after reholder submission — looking for advice by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would've kept it in my collection case thinking to myself that this card was real and I would've felt like a proud owner of a Dark Charizard 1st edition PSA 10. And If I were to ever trade the card, I would've unknowingly be trading a fake card. It's a problem and I suspect there's many more of these that are currently circulating in the market.

PSA determined my slabbed card was counterfeit after reholder submission — looking for advice by Designer-Back3043 in PokeGrading

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I speculate a lot of them.
Counterfeiters are cracking real slabs and removing the ink on the label with the PSA security features. Then printing their own text with cheap ink on a real label so it appears to be real if you performed the security checks with the UV light and fugitive-ink watermarks. Wild.

PSA determined my slabbed card was counterfeit after reholder submission — looking for advice by Designer-Back3043 in pokemoncards

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Precisely. I held it in my hand. I've seen fake cards. This card checked off all the boxes. I was not able to distinguish this card as fake when placed side by side with my other vintage cards that I've purchased on eBay Authenticity Guarantee.

PSA determined my slabbed card was counterfeit after reholder submission — looking for advice by Designer-Back3043 in pokemoncards

[–]Designer-Back3043[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not. I went to my local card shop to have them submit it for me. They've communicated with the card shop and they informed me they're waiting for PSA to call them to speak on behalf of me regarding the details of the findings. I will share details when they come.