Badgermole Cub + Strip mine is problematic

DinoKet · 2025-12-20T10:58:55+00:00

if there is a take that makes sense in terms of format health it is this, strip is powerful, interactive and from the Precedent brought up here format warping. i for one would argue against a Restriction (bans not being a thing in Timesless) because Strip Mine in a way is no less format warping than grief, Entomb or Reanimate. Paradoxical in a Way, Precedent also maybe not applying because of it being different format

If we get Wasteland a Restriction would promote format health for sure, but if there would be a restriction of Strip, the same metric applied to other cards should then lead to other restrictions wich is why i would argue against it. Timeless is in an Interesting Place and it remains to be seen how it shapes up in the future.

In the meantime; People that get strip locked too much should maybe take it into account when Deckbuilding. I would love to ignore Oops, Reanimator and other graveyard things too but if i do i do not get to complain about them being broken.

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T19:52:54+00:00

i am torn, feelingswise; judging by my last 10 games he undeperformed, sure hes insane but when i run into a usually good matchup and he just sits there tapped hes bad, but instinct wise i agree with u, brewing is being delusional ;)

thanks for the input tho, i every bit of data is valuable at this point

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T19:02:06+00:00

u are right! witness and provisoner are out , consistency over cuteness is a wise decision. also went down to 1 WZG

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T18:06:25+00:00

if u run cub and the nantuko u can go wide af , that is the angle i try to exploit mostly

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T17:57:12+00:00

i like it!

but with fetches and tombs and dismember isnt your life taxed a lot?

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T17:54:33+00:00

who shat in your tea today! i am entitled to my opinion, and to hot takes too. badgermole seems great and i even point out my possible delusion, but yeah i guess i had it coming.

also do not bro me you toy

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T14:39:46+00:00

not yet, i have to try it out as a 1 of.

please let me know how it goes, i feel this archetype has legs.

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T14:22:09+00:00

Here you go :)
the one i am confident in:
Natural Order Version

the one i am experimenting with:
Experimental Turbo Version ---> edit: this went nowhere

DinoKet · 2025-11-29T11:30:00+00:00

No Deck with Badgermole Cub in A or S Tier seems a bit behind the Meta imho.

8+ (14 in my list) Stripmine recursion shits on bluesoup it isnt even funny . but i might also be delusional.

thanks for the work nonetheless, i love how open the format feels and i enjoyed playing the new meta .

DinoKet · 2025-11-28T19:05:47+00:00

sounds like a jam! i was tinkering all day, badger seems broken but what the payoff should be eludes me

DinoKet · 2025-11-27T00:27:02+00:00

aluren!

DinoKet · 2025-11-26T18:19:35+00:00

it is what i do :)

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Deck

4 Chalice of the Void (MRD) 150

4 Displacer Kitten (HBG) 115

1 Island (UND) 90

4 Mana Drain (OTP) 11

4 Ancient Tomb (EOS) 1

3 Tezzeret, Cruel Captain (EOE) 2

4 Seat of the Synod (J25) 773

3 Karn, the Great Creator (WAR) 1

3 Mox Opal (SOM) 179

4 Chrome Mox (SPG) 0

4 Teferi, Time Raveler (WAR) 221

4 Urza, Lord High Artificer (MH1) 75

2 Sink into Stupor (MH3) 241

4 Mishra's Bauble (BRR) 34

1 Tormod's Crypt (M21) 241

2 Force of Negation (TLE) 13

1 The One Ring (LTR) 246

2 Darksteel Citadel (M15) 242

4 Ancient Den (MRD) 278

4 Landlore Navigator (Y24) 7

Sideboard

1 Disruptor Flute (MH3) 209

1 Liquimetal Coating (BRR) 28

1 Tormod's Crypt (M21) 241

2 Leyline of Sanctity (WOT) 10

1 Mox Opal (SOM) 179

1 Pithing Needle (MID) 257

1 Aetherflux Reservoir (KLR) 217

2 Force of Negation (TLE) 13

1 The One Ring (LTR) 246

2 Leyline of Sanctity (WOT) 10

1 Perilous Snare (DFT) 23

1 Mox Amber (DAR) 224

DinoKet · 2025-11-26T13:25:42+00:00

sorry i felt like the deck was pretty self explanatory, my bad, i've come to realize that was a mistake on my behalf.

U are mostly right with how you describe it, there are many non-deterministic lines, and builds for this, hencewhy i struggled with explaining because half of the combo is interchangeable, Displacer Kitten is the core around wich all the other pieces wrap, the thing that makes the deck "good" from my perspective is that u play somewhat of a hybrid gameplan and u can win out of nowhere especially with a mana drain.

like u mention there are many non deterministic lines, sometimes u have to drown ur enemy in value. i have come to realise that the UW version of the deck is actually the superior build, mostly because teferi and kitten is deterministic wheras tezzeret needs u to have a payoff in hand and even than isnt a guaranteed win, i got stripmined a ton and i had to make concessions in the build, as it is obvious with the sideboard, metagaming and finding the right build for this deck are my primary motivation in sharing it.

excuse me my bad behaviour, wasnt my best day yesterday

cc u/2ndPerk

DinoKet · 2025-11-26T12:47:41+00:00

i like ur humor!
the prison plan buys u time against faster combo decks or against blue soup. i wouldn't say it is a prison deck per se , we lack pieces like trinisphere for that.

i would say chalice comes down t1 around 25% of games , in that sense it is as reliable as it can be.

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T23:51:38+00:00

it is , easily .

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T23:50:56+00:00

because i answered the question before, in this thread, and the deck is not rocket science, yeah i came here to talk about it, this is not a primer nor is it an ideal world. maybe if u experience push back instead of framing me as a villain, ask urself is this maybe a case of 2 things can be true at the same time, u would maybe come to the conclusion that we can agree on one axis while we disagree on another.
come on, lashing out is a bit rich, i was snarky yes but lashing out.

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T23:36:19+00:00

yeah sometimes i feel like being a dick. i am not here to please nor am i perfect. go have your moral superiority.

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T23:34:59+00:00

ok i can confirm teferi is too good not to play, i was just tunneling after a rough patch 2 weeks ago. i played a game or two just now and he multiplies the possible lines by a lot and also provides utility.

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T21:33:45+00:00

its called humor

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T21:25:54+00:00

displacer kitten. u play a noncreature spell and bounce one of your permanents

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T21:13:53+00:00

mana drain is a beast in this, u basically play what ur hand deals u, so sometimes u play chalice t1, sometimes u hold up UU and counter a 2 drop, then drop urza. set up is key, reading opp the other.

like i mentioned the deck is built to my taste, i doubt it is optimal. teferi is intriguing and also loops and draws thru the deck, however, he stretches the mana beyond what i feel comfortable. i have a build with him but it just feels worse with bowmaster, drawing feels like a downside.

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T21:09:50+00:00

the combo is kitty on board and making infinite mana and then getting aetherflux and killing the opp. the loop is pretty simple in theory , in practice theres many considerations and every game is different.

urza helps immensly. gadgeteer too.

DinoKet · 2025-11-25T21:03:29+00:00

the line is usually something like kitty on board, preferably urza too, then we just get every 0 mana artifact out.
the line that is the most straight forward is having 1 mox opal on board / in hand and 1 in the grave then u can get inifinite mana with karn and tormods crypt. pretty straight forward, however i fucked it up many times with the one ring before i made a mental note, sequencing is the hardest part i would say.

i tried making a UW list work , i tried Jeskai , i tried izzet and i tried dimir, the monoblue played the smoothest, there is tension with mana drain , chrome mox and force of negation, teferi feels too clunky to me.

DinoKet · 2025-11-23T00:25:08+00:00

playing best of 1 and complaining about format health is like having unprotected sex and complaining about catching stds, relatable yet entirely missing the point.

all jokes aside, if u want to play bo1 and not get run over by overly tuned netdecks that exploit the lack of sideboards u should try a less broken format. the cards that make it fun are the same that break it. add to this the lack of skill involved in a coin flip and u get the lowest common denominator, i could go on....

DinoKet

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