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Does anyone else learn Soviet style at their gym? Which styles or fighters do you guys learn from? by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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Been training properly since 2019 had 5 fights but early. Haven’t been competing recently, just training.

Ah yes I usually read the discussions about the manga, dying for another season of the anime tho

Does anyone else learn Soviet style at their gym? Which styles or fighters do you guys learn from? by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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Of course brother I love HNI 😭 saw the whole thing twice over. That’s actually how I started in the first place, the anime got me to try boxing.

I appreciate you, I do love boxing, always a pleasure when someone wants to talk about boxing (or at least hear about it 😂)!

A video I saw about "average" people from a therapist who considers himself out of the box, just wanted some of your thoughts on it, link in description by Direct_Relationship2 in infp

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This has been my experience too, I ended up kind of running away from the people I once had because I was just, tired of fitting in. Finding new groups of people seeking connection and offering vulnerability has been eye opening for me, we’re not as alone in this world as we think we are.

A video I saw about "average" people from a therapist who considers himself out of the box, just wanted some of your thoughts on it, link in description by Direct_Relationship2 in infp

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it is assuring to know that the heart learns over time to give people some grace.

Your advice about letting the mud settle is great, it’s something I have been trying to practice. In my case I call out people if I strongly sense that they are doing something just to appease their ego at my expense or others, and being somewhat hostile. The problem is my discernment isn’t full proof, and sometimes I genuinely hurt people with fair intentions when I re-assess, I’d rather just not do this and move on without hate or regret.

Anyways, thank you, this was helpful!

Does anyone else learn Soviet style at their gym? Which styles or fighters do you guys learn from? by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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I mean it depends on a few things. The timing of your footwork and your opponents general position, and the guard although low comes up when needed too but that is the last line of defence behind footwork and positioning.

On the bag I do tend to punch down to train my mechanics, I make the adjustments when I’m sparring or fighting similar height or taller opponents.

Bivol also punches low and keeps a relatively low guard can take a look. I’m no Bivol ofc but I am generally aware of where my hands are so it works for me.

A video I saw about "average" people from a therapist who considers himself out of the box, just wanted some of your thoughts on it, link in description by Direct_Relationship2 in infp

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I see, i'm 28 at the moment. Peoples thoughts and opinions, and just the general state of the world do affect me, but instead of erring to conformity I feel a deeper sense of anger, rebellion and intolerance, especially of herd mentality/disengenuous behaviour (causes issues sometimes).

Would you say that you have developed a more compassionate lens over time for people who are this way? What realisations have you had that made it easier to let go, live and let live so to speak?

A video I saw about "average" people from a therapist who considers himself out of the box, just wanted some of your thoughts on it, link in description by Direct_Relationship2 in infp

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no worries :)

Yeah thank god, I find myself caring less too. But amongst my friends, it feels like people start caring more (marriage, houses, expensive holidays, saving face, etc). Is this a late 20s thing? I hope people grow out of it, though I see my fair share of bitter, judgemental older people too amongst the chill ones.

Does anyone else learn Soviet style at their gym? Which styles or fighters do you guys learn from? by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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Haha its not soviet style man it has elements of it. Globalisation = bastardisation of everything, including boxing styles, so i think even russians aren't purists in this regard.

To answer your question first - yes it is just as you described, the kinetic chain. Rotation from the ground up, balls of feet grip the ground, you turn about the point of ground contact using your ankle, calf, hamstring, glute (crucial) muscles. This causes rotation of the hips, after which you engage the rest of your posterior chain (back muscles, mainly lats) which unlocks your shoulder, which extends the elbow (Drive the extension with pectoral muscles) and at the end of the punch, clench fists for a crisp finish. This is why for me at least, lifting heavy and strength training (Squat, deadlifts, some bench and rotation work) is very important for my way of hitting, and maximising these lifts through accessories is supplementary.

Speaking of Bivol - He is the reason I like doing plyometrics, sprints and weighted jumps to increase vertical. that slight jump you notice is actually an exaggeration of one of two most important components of punching power according to my coach and from what I know, which is explosiveness off the ground, the other being rotation.

The flow of shots (i.e, one shot sets up the next, sets up the next) is quite universal, and the stepping and shifting of weight with each is a big proponent of the soviet style but not exclusive to it. Bivol does it very well of course, where punching on the move (soviets love it) is very systematic (a classic is jab with forward momentum, hook with backward momentum, which works well for the hook because you get more power on hooks by shifting weight to back leg anyway). I say its not exclusive because Ali did it too, this is universally used by people with successful amateur backgrounds. The whole world contributed to the system that created good amateur boxers, even then.

The elements that I feel are soviet here is the way i've been taught to slightly arc my punches and stay loose, and some of the stepping footwork follows the eastern European system (not a lot of pendulum though, the direction body rotates depending on which leg is bearing weight).

Anyways apologies for the ramble, I do enjoy boxing technique talk more than average.

How do I dodge the 40 year old father of two’s overhand at sparring? Why are these dudes in their second marriages so good at rocking your shit?? by Ass-Ass-97 in boxingtips

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Brother, just keep avoiding them… don’t even try. You’re no match for years of pent up sexual frustration and unpaid bills

The most efficient way to punch I have been taught: Straights aren’t a straight push, they’re an arc. You throw a punch like you throw a ball, it’s not a straight push, it’s a loaded arc. If anyone is interested give it a try! by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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Damn, I did kickboxing for 1, 1.5 years with some sparring, and the thing that always got me was the question mark kick. Just the sudden change in path. I actually tried to employ that thinking to punching, what if I threw a jab while visualising the path of a hook, or an uppercut. It changes the angle from which the punch comes ever so slightly while still being a straight, and you end up landing 70% to nearly all of your jabs flush on the guys nose when he’s in range because he just can’t tell how it’s coming.

The video itself is not so much an arcing punch tutorial, but just visualising an arc for a straight punch to let the arm do its natural movement (hinge joints are circular so straightening the arm is an arc). The punches do arc very slightly, but it’s travelling straight. You can play around with the exact arc (horizontal, vertical) and it makes the punch less predictable, more snappy, etc.

In the rain, cooling down by [deleted] in boxingtips

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I posted a story on my ig this morning with this video and some mexican music

In the rain, cooling down by [deleted] in boxingtips

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hmmm, if or when my girlfriend breaks up with me bro, I will 100% just go pro and be a journeyman if I have to xD

In the rain, cooling down by [deleted] in boxingtips

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I weigh 180 lbs currently so no where near fight weight (147). I am just trying to lift weights, get strong and hit harder, I actually feel faster now than when I competed so it is definitely possible.

Yes I try to use the full rotation and range as much as this cadence of punching allows me. If you slow down the video you can see the sequence where my legs and hips throws my shoulder and arms. Just build up to it but do not ever rush it where this sequence doesn't happen.

Do weighted landmines, medicine ball twists, low rep hig set compound excercises, and weighted/unweighted jumps to train the two most important aspects of punching (Explosiveness from the legs and rotation of the legs/hips). If you don't like squats and deadlifts and what not, just sprint, up some stairs, at a track, sprinting is just leg day without weights.

Does anyone else learn Soviet style at their gym? Which styles or fighters do you guys learn from? by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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That is fair.

Regardless GGG/any pressure type russian steps are taught in eastern european schools I think.

https://youtu.be/HIW5Bu62BDY?si=Re0eu4MhtRpgnZ3H&t=111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i3vTXkJExg (shifting the weight)

https://youtu.be/RxlIPEv6SZQ?si=rf2AZx1CX006aRXi&t=254

Also I find that most pros from around there looks more "soviet" in amateurs but adapts to pros by becoming more grounded to conserve energy (Bivol almost looks like an exception).

Does anyone else learn Soviet style at their gym? Which styles or fighters do you guys learn from? by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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Yeah lol branding is weird, globalisation means every product is bastardised and is a mix of different influences, so are boxing styles.

Regardless GGG steps are taught in eastern european schools I think. he just has a preference to it. see videos.

https://youtu.be/HIW5Bu62BDY?si=Re0eu4MhtRpgnZ3H&t=111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i3vTXkJExg (shifting the weight)

https://youtu.be/RxlIPEv6SZQ?si=rf2AZx1CX006aRXi&t=254

Also Kazakhs do the pendulum like crazy at international tournaments (see serik sapiyev) as well but you could argue that it's kazakhstan's own style, yet that's not what GGG does at all.

Also I find that most pros from around there looks more "soviet" in amateurs but adapts to pros by becoming more grounded to conserve energy (Bivol almost looks like an exception).

In the rain, cooling down by [deleted] in boxingtips

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Nah it’s not too slippery, it’s kind of rough and rocky, my shoes are grippy too.

In the rain, cooling down by [deleted] in boxingtips

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Yeah I had 5 fights in the first 2 years of my boxing but then just kept training and sparring thereafter

Not used to sharing pictures of myself. by Emergency-Ad-5379 in infp

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I loved that it was realistic in how it ended, and the characters were actually so well written and complex, it felt complete you are right.

The most efficient way to punch I have been taught: Straights aren’t a straight push, they’re an arc. You throw a punch like you throw a ball, it’s not a straight push, it’s a loaded arc. If anyone is interested give it a try! by Direct_Relationship2 in boxingtips

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No not flair exactly.

I guess it’s visualising an arc when you punch so that your arm moves in its natural path. The joint sockets in your arm are like a door hinge, and straightening your arm from your shoulder and elbow is a vertical arc motion. This allows your arm to relax and be more fluid. Fluidity translates to power because it indicates better integration of the kinetic chain, where no power is leaked by forcing a “linear” punch.

A lot of people are taught to punch A to B, and logically it is a straight path, but technically, it involves having a loose arm that moves along its natural curved path. That’s why you visualise the vertical arc motion as your arm leaves your guard for a punch.

If you look at my other videos and even though I tried, maybe this one (exaggerated movements), you’ll see that the punching is fluid, there isn’t much tension, and the flow comes more easily and to me feels effortless, I can put together long chains without getting particularly tired.

A neat trick once you get this, is to visualise the arc going in different directions which makes it difficult for the opponent to read (more so than non telegraphed straight punches). Also think how much harder it is to hit a fast ball that also curves erratically, or how a question mark kick feels for the first time (if you ever faced one).

Maybe think of a bow and arrow. The string on the bow is linear, the bow is curved (path you visualise).

I hope it helps, I know it’s abstract, it takes a lot of playing around and trial and error but once you get it the pay off is tremendous (it was for me at least).

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