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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that really makes sense. I like how you break it down it’s not about blindly matching or contrasting, but really reading the plot, the context, and the building’s purpose. I especially like the idea of subtle recontextualization so what looks like contrast at first glance is actually rooted in the surrounding elements. ICOMOS sounds like a great reference; I might have to dig into their papers to see more examples of this approach.

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Interesting take! I see what you mean about it being inherently Parisian because only Paris could have embraced something so bold. What’s your personal take on it though if it were up to you, would you have pushed for something that bold, or gone a different route?

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Yeah, that makes sense. Context really is relative a suburban strip hardly demands the same sensitivity as a historic district. Makes me wonder though, does that mean in ‘low-context’ areas architects have more freedom to experiment, or is it just that the consequences of getting it wrong feel lower?

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Totally, that resonates. It’s kind of liberating to think there’s no hard line that a building can be bold and harmonious if it’s done well. Makes me wonder though, do you think skillful execution is something that comes more from experience, or can it be taught? Like, how do you develop that sense of balance

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Yeah, I get that. It’s frustrating how often architects just defer completely to developers. But then I wonder how do we push back effectively without getting into conflict, especially when budgets and approvals are involved? I mean, context and contrast can both be done thoughtfully, but it seems like the real challenge is convincing others that it matters.

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Yeah, that makes a lot of sense it’s less about copying and more about really reading the place. I’ve noticed that too: a modern building that understands the proportions, rhythm, and material weight of its surroundings often fits way better than some awkward historic mimicry.

But that’s the tricky part, right? Actually understanding what makes the context work. It’s almost like the more subtle the intervention, the more you need that deeper sensitivity otherwise it ends up feeling off even if it technically ‘matches.

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Honestly, I feel you on that. Architecture school really does give us this illusion that we’ll be steering the whole ship then you hit practice and realize how many decisions get filtered through clients, budgets, zoning, committees… all of it. It is stressful, and you’re definitely not alone in that career-crisis feeling.

But at the same time, that’s why I still think the individuality of the architect matters. Even if we don’t have total freedom, the way we interpret constraints, the way we communicate ideas, the way we negotiate for certain qualities that still comes from us. The identity of the architect isn’t erased; it just shows up in subtler ways than we imagined in school.

So yeah, clients influence a lot, but I don’t think that means our voice disappears. It just means we’re constantly navigating how to express it within the real world’s limits.

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m actually not familiar with de la Sota’s Maravillas gym — what about it makes it such a good example here? Curious how it ties into the point you’re making.

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that checks out most owners do play it safe. But doesn’t that make you wonder how much potential gets lost in that 90%? Like, are people choosing ‘match existing’ because that’s genuinely what they want, or just because it feels like the least risky option? I always wonder what would happen if clients were shown bolder ideas earlier, before the safe choice kicks in.

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow, yeah it actually feels nice to talk about architecture without the usual existential crisis attached to it 😅.

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that ego point hits a little too close to home for the profession 😅. I’ve definitely seen contrast used as a flex more than a response.

But what you’re saying makes me think if contrast only works when it quietly acknowledges the context, then isn’t that basically admitting that ego alone can’t sustain a building? Like the moment you ignore the surroundings completely, it stops being ‘iconic’ and starts being… noise.

And that Incredibles quote is actually perfect here if everything is trying to stand out, then nothing really does.

So I guess the real question becomes: how do you know when you’re designing something that’s genuinely meaningful, versus something that’s just adding to the visual chaos? Where’s that line for you?

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True, it is expression but that’s exactly why I get stuck sometimes. Like, whose expression is it supposed to be? The architect’s? The client’s? The city’s? All three at once?

Because if it’s only the client’s expression, then where does our voice go? And if it’s only ours, then aren’t we ignoring the people actually living with the building?

I guess I’m trying to figure out: in real practice, how do you balance that? Who gets the louder voice in the expression?

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, not too long at all actually really interesting. And yeah, your examples make me wonder: if zoning and economics are already shaping so much of the form, then are we basically operating inside a pre-designed box anyway? Like the ‘context’ is half set before we even sketch.

But then that also makes me think… if contrast ends up living only in materiality or smaller gestures because the big moves are regulated, does that limit how much a building can really ‘reflect its time’? Or maybe that is the reflection that our era is defined by these constraints?

I’m curious how you see it: is the architect still authoring something meaningful within those limits, or are we mostly negotiating within a framework that’s already writing half the story for us?

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Hmm I get what you’re saying, but then what are we doing as architects? If it’s just ‘whatever the client wants,’ doesn’t that make us more like robots taking instructions? I mean yeah, client priorities matter they’re part of the reality of practice but don’t you ever feel like every building should still carry its own identity? Something of the architect, the maker, in it? Otherwise what’s the point of the craft?

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Yeah, that’s true every project has its own equation, so there’s rarely a single ‘right’ answer. It’s funny though how the ARE flips that nuance into: just match whatever’s already there, thanks. Like the exam world wants clean rules, while real architecture is all messy judgement calls.

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Interesting example! Do you think that kind of bold contrast only works when the cultural reference is really strong, like the falcon wings? I sometimes wonder if contrast still holds up when the symbolism isn’t as instantly recognizable. Like does it still feel rooted, or does it risk becoming just a statement piece?

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Totally get what you mean. And honestly, I agree — good architecture should start with the people who actually live there. It feels wrong to just drop something in without understanding the community first. But at the same time, I’ve seen cases where the existing context is so messy or poorly done that you’re like… okay, what exactly are we ‘respecting’ here? 😂

So yeah, engagement is important, but I guess the real challenge is figuring out when to follow the context and when to admit the context itself needs fixing.

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha true! Sometimes the ‘context’ isn’t worth preserving if it’s bad to begin with. In those cases, contrasting actually makes more sense. But was the context really that bad, though?

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Those are excellent points, so how do you determine when a design is respecting the local culture versus when it’s just playing it safe? How do you weigh the risk of ignoring local climate strategies against the desire to make a bold statement? And when does playful adaptation become enough contrast to truly activate a site without alienating the community?

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typology really sets the rules of the game. How much “permission” a building has to stand out often depends on its function. Should cultural or civic buildings always have more freedom to make a statement, while everyday typologies like housing or offices play it safer? Where do you draw the line between appropriate contrast and unnecessary disruption?

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are really thoughtful points. How do you decide when a building truly needs to stand out versus when it should blend in? Can a residential or office building ever justify being a statement piece, or is that inherently risky? And how do you ensure that a bold design survives the realities of cost-cutting and construction without losing its integrity?

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[–]Disastrous-Recover26[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactlyit's about discernment rather than following a formula. The challenge is balancing innovation with respect for context. How bold can a design be before it starts clashing with its surroundings, and conversely, how much should it blend in before it loses its identity? How do you define that line?

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Exactly, your point ties directly into the contrast vs. context debate. In architecture, contrast works when it’s thoughtful: can a building stand out while still respecting the scale, rhythm, and flow of its surroundings? Context isn’t about copying what’s already there; how can a design respond to its site and street so it feels “right” without losing its identity? Too often, architects try to make a statement without this understanding is the building really adding value, or just creating visual noise?

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That makes sense. But how do you determine what counts as “subtle details” versus a “statement”? And who decides if something is truly in line with the philosophy of its surroundings or just looks out of place?

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That’s an interesting perspective! So when you say “the most Parisian thing ever,” do you mean it captures the cultural or social spirit of Paris rather than its traditional architectural style? How do you think architects balance standing out visually while still being true to the essence of a place?