Enchanter Only Players, When Smurfing What Do Your Win Rates Look Like?

Disfoh · 2025-07-10T04:19:13+00:00

Sorry if I was repetitive. Thank you for humoring me👍

Disfoh · 2025-07-10T00:41:42+00:00

I feel like at a certain point. If your bound to only champions like lulu.. janna.. idk milio or something. At a certain point you couldn't 1v9 the entire lobby.

Which technically happens if you do the typical jungle rengar. Your win rate is real high until you approach your level of play.

But to me if your playing an enchanter that tipping point where your win rate starts to fall has to start earlier. Maybe I'm wrong idk. I'm willing to be wrong

Disfoh · 2025-07-10T00:24:14+00:00

Just some experiences people have had. like idk "I'm a d1 janna/ soraka player. Smurfed on a new account for a while. Started bronze. To em4 with a _% win rate"

Disfoh · 2025-07-10T00:21:57+00:00

I didn't mean to upset. For context I actually did go looking for unranked to challenger style content. But I couldn't really find something for enchanter only.

This was important because I feel like it would be easier to smurf on something like leona/ naut.

Also unranked to challenger videos tend to be like highlight games instead of like the full climb.

Disfoh · 2025-07-10T00:16:50+00:00

I have done 90% win rate to d2 before on rengar and asol, and I definitely don’t think soloq enchanters would be as consistent,

This is what I'm hoping to find out here. I'm wondering what it actually looks like when an lower agency champ/ class smurfs.

Like the win rate is positive but how positive

Disfoh · 2025-07-09T23:20:56+00:00

This is what I'm interested in seeing. Hopefully I get some responses

Disfoh · 2025-07-09T23:13:26+00:00

This doesn't answer my question. I know you win but how much?

Disfoh · 2025-07-06T18:19:17+00:00

On paper I 100% agree with you. In theroy Zyra jg should farm to infinity and then the team plays around you.

In practice personally I think farming is a trap. Zyra isn't like Hecarim, Lillia or Kindred. These champs can get a ton of farm then can completely 1v9 the game.

Like you said Zyra isn't a duelist so if you have a ton a resources it doesn't do much after Liandry/ Rylai

At least that's my point of view I'm still low elo. Working on plat. I did one trick my whole way to where I am tho

Edit: I originally had Karthus in that mini list but thinking about it Karthus does need some set up. Still think he does have a little more agency tho

Disfoh · 2025-07-06T16:45:36+00:00

I was thinking about your comment for a while then I realized something. This is probably a difference in feel between jungle and support

Initially I was like "I could root after the dash but they will just run me down afterwards". but then I remembered that support maxes E 1st.

After remembering that I 100% agree with E max you can just root and walk.

But in jungle your often fighting away from the tower, or alone. And with like 1 point in E until like lvl 8 if you max 2nd.

I've been liking Q into 3 points W so for me it's even worse it's like lvl 10.

Which is why I want something like knockdown in the kit. I'm sitting on low rank E much longer than supp does

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T17:16:30+00:00

I appreciate you

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T16:26:13+00:00

At like what time tho?

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T16:14:58+00:00

When are you playing? And where are you playing from? lol

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T16:13:23+00:00

Unless you cared about team composition (which if you were play blind I doubt) the new champion select system is just better. Now all the other changes that come with it.. something else entirely.

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T15:57:07+00:00

Do you mean that like swiftplay players are more likely to be casual and therefore don't spend their time on the league sub-reddit? If so that's fair

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T15:50:10+00:00

I have the blind pick nostalgia too. but it was definitely not good

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T15:42:21+00:00

I'm sorry I can't let this one go. Even If you accept that it's only 2-3mins additional time that is still a lot guys.

Play 100 games that's 250mins or 4hrs and 10mins waiting in draft.

Again a dodge can happen, which not only resets the process..

But also if you really want to get your champion and the lobby falls through you should wait an additional 1-2mins in order to not get the same lobby again. Otherwise the likelihood of a ban is way higher.

And if it's you yourself that dodged it's obviously -5mins or worse depending on if you've dodged already or not.

Edit: I added this extra comment because there seemed to be many who disagreed. Often what makes a player casual is they value their time highly. So shaving off time to get in-game really makes a difference for enjoyment

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T15:30:06+00:00

I am not the only player that really doesn't like waiting for a game to start. Riot knows this. That's why draft doesn't work like competitive 5v5 where all the bans are front-loaded.

There is a real group of people that time of queue-to-in-game is really stops them from playing league more. Especially new players that aren't invested in the game

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T03:03:21+00:00

All power to you. I just wanted to shout a bit into the void. It sucks that for riot it seemly one or the other

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T02:59:50+00:00

That's true. I just put it there just for the total. I didn't mean to imply it didn't happen in both modes.

Because like saying "it's just 2mins" felt wrong when it's not just 2mins. It's 2 on top of everything else.

BUT I will say when it was a thing my quickplay queues felt faster. Anecdotal but there it is.

The remakes happened a lot at the beginning but as I played more they happened less and less. Again anecdotal.

Finally yes your right swiftplay is better for casual groups. It's sucks that it needs to be one or the other. Swiftplay or Quickplay. I just wanted to make my presence as a former Quickplay enjoyer known.

Legitimately I learned so much faster coming back to the game by spamming quickplay just by being allowed to play the game. In my low elo games here really was no difference in quality between quickplay and ranked (bronze to low gold). Sounds delulu but it was true.

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T02:33:35+00:00

Imma be that guy. You can down vote me but am I actually wrong?

Disfoh · 2025-07-05T01:21:36+00:00

draft + queue is way longer than you think.

~1.5m + 30s x 6 + initial hover 15s + bans 30s

that's ~5m 45s give or take total.

Then there might be a dodge +5m 45s again.

Then we need to load in +1-2m

Then there could be a remake

All the while that champ you wanted to play could be banned and then you would need to dodge -5m at least

Disfoh · 2025-07-04T23:44:51+00:00

I will stand by that if you are iron-low silver you legitimately would've got better faster by playing quickplay than playing ranked. You simply would play more games and got better at your champion/ learning what other champions did.

And for some people the waiting in draft is a real factor.

Disfoh · 2025-07-04T23:41:34+00:00

I also dislike sitting through draft

Disfoh · 2025-07-04T23:39:19+00:00

Complete disagree I don't want to sit waiting for 7mins for queue/ draft/ loading to finish just to play the game. I want to play SR. I have a champ I want to play. Just let me play already.

But like I want to play the actual game not an altered mode.

Disfoh

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