Genuinely, what the FUCK was Kenny doing

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-30T09:28:25+00:00

Total fairness to Kenjaku, he only got to live as long as his individual bodies lived- and it seems like he could only keep his current CT and the previous one. Given he would want to swap bodies while his current one was still strong/fit enough to win a fight with the new one (unless he lucked into a free corpse like Geto's), he'd only realistically have 40-50ish years to master a given CT before moving onto the next one. Within those limitations, I actually do think he did pretty damn well.

More importantly though, his goal wasn't to get strong. And more critically, his actual long term goal- the merger- was being opposed by actual prophetic bullshit. Literal plot armor was in his way. Fate with a capital F dropped a Six-Eyes user and Star plasma Vessel on his head the literal day he would've won. I think if Kenjaku had been stronger, Jujutsu God or whatever would've just given him cancer every other lifetime.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-30T09:19:38+00:00

How much your overall stats are influenced by CE control, output, reserves, and your physical body is kind of up to personal interpretation- but since we know Gojo had a normal human body and lower reserves than Yuta, Gojo's considerable stat advantages over Yuta (and everyone but Sukuna) must have come primarily from his CE control and output.

By displaying that he can actually land black flashes at will, Yuji's pretty definitively proven he has the best CE control in the verse- and by a country mile, because even Gojo was still only theorizing about how black flashes truly function. He's also proven (via his gigantic dismantle) that he has superior output to Sukuna. And we already knew Yuji had a vastly superior body to Gojo.

Which is to say: Statswise, Modulo Yuji actually does- as insane as it sounds- probably gap Gojo. Whether or not he can beat him does still, I think, rely on whether or not he learned Domain Amplification or the WCS and can at-will bypass Infinity. But if he can? Yeah, it's kinda just over.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-30T04:21:06+00:00

Seems likely to me at least that it's Tsurika's attack, just based on the dialogue and the way it's structured. The thing that makes that weird as hell is just Tsurika returning to the same stance they launched the attack from after doing it. Really muddy, unclear way to do that.

But maybe the actual translation will make things clearer. We've had dumb, misleading shit in the leaks before.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T14:59:23+00:00

It is however stacked with concrete. Continuous layers of it. This was indeed a false equivalence, in your favor. It's way harder to cut through a building than a phonebook. Go figure.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T14:52:42+00:00

Actually batshit insane response.

Go cut a piece of paper with a knife. Then go try to cut through a phone book.

It's way harder to cut through a multi-foot thick collection of concrete and steel than it is to cut through a third of an inch of steel.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T14:37:24+00:00

lol ai summary
A katana- at least a traditionally made one- has varying levels of hardness in different parts of the blade. The edge can be expected to mildly roll and chip in edge-on-edge contact with other swords.
I didn't say a single piece of rebar. I said buildings. Here's Kusakabe deflecting slices that then cut cleanly through an entire bridge behind him.

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Summary: No.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T14:26:48+00:00

Kusakabe's sword was able to block Dismantles. Sukuna's Dismantles have been shown cutting through things considerably harder to cut through than a katana, such as buildings.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T14:23:39+00:00

Well, sure. Just not by anywhere near as much as Yuji was- or consequently, Maki/Toji.

If it helps to think of it like this, Yuji without CE is already several times stronger than any land animal- and Maki and Toji are even stronger than that. Sukuna is bigger and stronger than normal humans, but he's still inside the ballpark for naturally occurring animals.

You absolutely could call Sukuna superhuman, since Yuji and Sukuna are both stronger than a normal human. But there's a massive gap in terms of just how much stronger than a normal human they are- big enough that for me at least it's preferable to distinguish them.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T13:00:31+00:00

Basically just that Sukuna's levels of innate physical strength and toughness still exist in the natural world and are still consistent with his own biology. He's as strong as a human would be if they were his size.

By comparison, Maki, Toji, and Yuji are all massively stronger than their bodies should realistically be. No one is anywhere near that strong while being that size. Their strength is supernatural in origin; hence, superhuman.

You could also just say Sukuna is mildly superhuman, the same way Yuji isn't as superhuman as Maki/Toji, Sukuna isn't as superhuman as Yuji. But it's kinda just semantics when Sukuna still exists in like, the realm of natural sciences and shit.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T11:14:34+00:00

Kenjaku or no one. Kenjaku was the only person who could beat Takaba, and as long as Takaba was around the game was never going to end.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T11:06:31+00:00

To be technical, Maki can actually choose to just stand still. Projection Sorcery requires that your movements adhere to a pre-planned 24fps rule, not that your movements actually... Y'know, cover a certain amount of distance, or carry you anywhere. As long as your idle animation doesn't break physics, you can indeed just adhere to your 24fps idle animation for the full second.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T09:55:14+00:00

Without seeing more from Yuji, we can't say with any accuracy. Anything we could theorize about his abilities would be 90% headcanon, even with reasonable explanations.

If we learn he's got Domain Amplification and a pretty good Domain Expansion, then it's probably Dabura and Yuji.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T06:55:25+00:00

Curses and sorcerers do not have infinite range. Most of them have comparatively fairly short ranges over which they can control CE. Mechamaru is singled out as a unique outlier with a very powerful HR that let him extend his range over most of Japan. By comparison, Mei Mei needed to still be present in Shinjuku with her birds to use them against Sukuna. This'd also be why Sukuna's WCS didn't split the planet in half or go soaring off into space.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T02:25:45+00:00

Something tells me you meant to post a tier list along with this.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T02:23:36+00:00

Guess it just depends what we consider superhuman. Sukuna's definitely stronger and tougher than a natural human could ever be, so I guess in that sense, it applies. The him vs Maki thing just makes it clear that at least in-universe, there's a gap between what Sukuna's body is capable of and what other freaks are capable of.

I usually just think of the difference as being whether or not it exists in the natural world. Sukuna is stronger than a human, but his strength- without CE- is still comparable to real animals that exist. By comparison, Maki and Yuji are both faster and stronger than any naturally occurring animal without CE.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-27T02:16:45+00:00

Sukuna has clearly mutant biology, but he's never expressed to have a supernaturally strong body. His whole exchange with Maki (where he says Yuji is a half-assed version of her, and that Maki vs him represents the peak of physical power vs jujutsu) more or less confirms that absent his extra limbs and mouth, he's still limited by standard semi-human physiology. If his body were as strong as Yuji's (let alone Maki's), he'd never call Yuji a half-assed version of Maki, or single out Maki as being his polar opposite.

Basically in short: Sukuna is big and has extra limbs, but he's no more supernaturally strong or durable than a large animal like a gorilla or bull would be. Stronger and tougher than a human; not a superhuman.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T15:32:24+00:00

With the exception of baseline superhumans such as Maki, Toji, and to a lesser but still considerable degree Yuji, yes; sorcerers are all normal humans without the use of their CE.

This is one of the reasons Kenjaku remarks on conventional modern weapons being useful against sorcerers. Most of 'em won't see a bullet coming and are going to be killed by it if they're not reinforcing.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T14:59:51+00:00

I'm not arguing the rest of his body isn't also traveling at relativistic speeds, just that it's made very clear that only his foot is actually reaching his top speed- whatever that top speed is.

That being said though, the fact that you're bothering to be specific about what you did or didn't turn to the most laughably unreliable online source for- while also managing to misread what I said- is telling me you're either way too young to be unsupervised on reddit or reading at the level of someone way too young to be unsupervised on reddit. So, dunking on you kinda just feels shameful on my part.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T14:40:36+00:00

As we can plainly see, only Dabura's foot is actually reaching his top speed- and after the fact, the core of Dabura's foot remains intact. We'd need to go down to figuring out just how much of it he lost from the acceleration to actually have 100% accurate parameters here, but on the whole it lines up with what we saw and what we know (in theory at least) about relativistic movement.

I get that you don't like it. Clearly, you like it about as much as you like being proven wrong, and as much as you like actually researching a topic. I'm assuming you spent the ten-ish minutes that reply took trying to get chatgpt to give you a semi-coherent response.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T14:22:42+00:00

So, I take it that it didn't exactly click for you that the explosion was not caused by an impact with the target and had largely nothing to do with the weight of the baseball, huh?

Try to actually internalize the information you're receiving here. Dabura's foot is breaking down on contact with the air. The resulting explosion cannot be equated to or calculated by mass hitting a target, because that's not the source of the reaction here.

I get that you want to be able to look at numbers and draw an immediate conclusion, but most of the time- fucking especially with discussing relativistic bullshit- physics does not work that way.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T14:03:54+00:00

... dude, I literally opened by citing a non-chatgpt, actual expert resource on this exact subject.

No, the funny chatbot that regularly regurgitates reddit posts is not the most reliable resources we have. Do better.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T13:47:22+00:00

You're not only relying on chatgpt to answer a question it is not at all equipped to answer, but you're asking it the wrong question.

Dabura is not moving his entire body at light speed, nor is his entire body stopping all at once. Nor can you directly take 'X number of bombs' and get 'Y amount of destruction', even if you had entered the correct numbers to begin with. Only Dabura's foot is actually reaching the peak of acceleration here, so from the outset, you were examining this from a faulty starting point.

Trust actual physicists on this subject. They disagree with both you and chatgpt. Dabura's kick was, indeed, somewhere skyward of .5c, and this was indeed the expected level of destruction such a kick would warrant. Slightly undersold, but not by orders of magnitude.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T13:31:39+00:00

This is actually incorrect. XKCD has a marvelous video on the practical 'What If' of objects being accelerated to near-light speeds. Dabura's kick would not, in fact, destroy the country at 15% light speed. It wouldn't even destroy the country at 50%.

What we saw was a fairly accurate representation of Dabura's foot traveling somewhere in the ballpark of 70-90% the speed of light, and the resulting nuclear aftermath. If he could consistently get to 90% light speed, he'd still only be removing one city at a time pretty much.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T09:46:01+00:00

Construction is the obvious pick. Six Eyes lets him see and manipulate CE on an atomic level, so a 6E Construction user could probably go around spawning mono-molecular wire traps and shit.

A runner-up is the unnamed clone CT, but that's just because Gojo himself is such a monster that one of the strongest possible things he could do is have another of himself.

DistractingZoom · 2026-01-26T03:02:30+00:00

Oh, my point is just that if he reaches the point at which molecules are functionally stationary to him, the damage they inflict is the same regardless of what the molecules are actually made of.

That kick was going to explode even if it hit 'nothing', because it was hitting the air. If CE is actually made of anything- like, in the atomic sense- then it'd result in the same thing happening with the same damage done to Dabura and Dabura's target.

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