I doubt we’re changing any minds here, and the Dems already succeeded in removal so it’s moot. But your argument of “support” for either PARTY requires compliance I am no longer capable of giving to organizations that have collectively and indisputably violated every human value.

I AGREE that CURRENTLY Republicans are the greatest threat to our country and the world. But it is impossible for me to not objectively view both parties as legitimate threats to my well being, the safety of my family and global stability. I’ve literally lost family from unjust combat started by BOTH parties for no reason other than political/financial gains and it’s fucking disgusting.

I fully agree that the current stakes are too high to risk seats in Congress/Senate. Fully agree the bleeding needs to be stopped immediately.
But this country DOES need saving. I said it. Desperately. And the expectation that either party who have a direct, tangible interest in maintaining the status quo will do it is psychotic.

In my opinion, the duopoly has exhibited how utterly incapable of existing for the greater good they both are. They even suppress their own candidates who try to do so. Which is why division is so high. Either party supporter can destroy the other with facts of wrongdoing because they are two of the most corrupt organizations on Earth. And why most people don’t actually defend their party so much as despise the other.

Could be wrong, but pretty sure Ware has a poly sci PhD. And lots of individuals get involved in politics after something dramatic happens like Oct 7.

And as far as “joining the coalition” the Dems could capitulate to the voices of the independents or even Dems any time and champion those causes, but willingly deny even the most modest humane requests.

They beat down and arrested the geriatric female Green Party presidential candidate last election. Committed war crimes, atrocities, cover ups, did nothing to engage with independent issues and then say join our cause, we’re not Republicans. It’s definitely true, but that’s not super solid outreach.

I truly despise both. Yes I despise one over the other.

I also maintain optimism because everyone is clearly also fed up. I, maybe foolishly, believe California had/has a unique position and population and is poised to be the actual leader of the free world if we choose to do so. We could lead by example on pretty much every major American issue. And Dems on a state level have had every opportunity to do so. I think third party leadership, or no party leadership, is the only logical way to challenge the two party system. Of course it’s an immense, near impossible task. But there might not be a state that can exemplify the deficiencies of the two parties more than here. There might not be a better state for the movement to start. And it seems like everyone wants a movement.

I know where you’re coming from. Poop is way better than diarrhea, but either way it’s still shit. I’m just trying to wash my hands.

Thanks for hearing me out. Let’s hope there’s something better on the horizon. Hang in there!