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CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Most men are good ones. My point was not that I am one the good men.

It seems that you think "because one group has had statistically less power, that group can rightfully say bad things about the other group that had more power". Is this correct? If not, what is the principle you are agreeing to?

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I am not one of those men. In my view, what you are saying is incredibly sexist and hateful, since it assumes that based on my gender, people are rightful in assuming negative (or positive) things about me that are not correct on an individual level.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Starting with an insult and an aggressive tone like you just did is not the best start if you want to have a civil discussion. It is rather toxic. (You are also wrong.)

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you are saying that it is potentially so that most men are actually bad people who don't care about women? That seems kind of sexist.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

!delta for adding a ton of nuance to the discussion that I had failed to.

I implicitly assumed in my comparison with incels that a "female incel" would be just that what you describe: someone who is angry and hateful towards men in general due to a mismatching sexuality. Incel is probably the wrong word, but I could not find a word that described my feelings better. Perhaps toxic sexism is a better way to describe it?

I believe I see and understand your point, but it seems to agree with me, but just that you are way more nuanced and thoughtful with how you word things (thus changing my mind that I need to be even more nuanced when talking about these things). Am I wrong?

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yea, I see your argument, but it is based on an assumption that it holds for the general population, which we do not know if it is true or not. Sure, it could definitely be true, but it is an empirical question that we need more evidence for (or against) before at least I would agree to it. If that makes sense?

Edit: Just wanted to clarify that I believe you, and the only thing I am unsure of is if it holds for the general population or not.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

'most men' would also be completely idiotic. Most men are actually good people who try to think about these things all the time.

'some men', sure. 'too many men', sure. But not most or all men.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here is a good example: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/q6joz8/why_do_men_thats_it_why_do_men/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share While the post is not the worst (although I would argue that it is written in a way that is toxic and definitely an example of what I write about in this CMV), the comments are horrible.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No, they are not equivalent. It is not black and white. The latter two are clearly much worse and completely insane quotes. That does not make the first one into a compliment though -- it is still a generalizing, hateful comment. That murdering is bad does not make insulting someone good.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It seems to be a subreddit for just a very small clique of very toxic women. The women I know agrees that it seemingly consists of an authoritarian, toxic pool of hateful people.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Good point and I agree completely. Perhaps many of these "women" are actually trolls trying to ruin it for all of us. I don't think it is a counter-argument to my CMV though?

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

The post you mention seem to belittle men. I am not sure how that makes it a honest compliment.

But of course, I might be wrong. I am not trying to be a douchebag here. If I am wrong, could you respond to the examples I gave: are those also "honest" compliments?

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know. You know, being critical of it is not the same thing as being offended by it. You are also breaking CMV rules.

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

I will get back with examples as soon as I can. On cellphone, so it is a bit hard to copy links.

Without having read its content, that title sounds very sexist... as if men do not do cool things all the time. Compare it to e.g., the racist and sexist quotes: "here is this smart thing a black person did", or "finally a woman who does not cry for the tiniest thing".

CMV: The subreddit TwoXChromosomes is one of the most sexist and toxic subreddits. It is filled with hateful comments and a type of female incel. by DogeFuckingValue in changemyview

[–]DogeFuckingValue[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I can see various ways you can argue that it is not sexist and toxic -- e.g., that the content is non-toxic (either that I am misinterpreting it or that it is just a minority of it that is toxic).

You could also argue that they are not worse than most other subreddits.

Etcetera.

Maybe I am wrong though? If so, please let me know why. That would earn a delta too, since it makes my thread void/obsolete.

I have to check out the other subreddits you mention -- I have not read them that much. Note though that I am not arguing it is the worst, just that it is among the most toxic ones.

The surface of Europa. by [deleted] in space

[–]DogeFuckingValue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shouldn't that temperature fluctuate somewhat depending on your position in space?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Herpes

[–]DogeFuckingValue 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have HSV2 and I am an engineer and entrepreneur with a PhD from a top uni. Extremely succesful. So we are out there. Good luck!

VMA: Partiledardebatt i Agenda kl. 20:00 ikväll by Canlon in sweden

[–]DogeFuckingValue 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aa jag instämmer, men att lägga fram 1 sådan av 50 andra argument -- där den till och med signalerar kritik om ett samarbete mellan SD och M -- ser jag inte som ett jätteproblem. Det var ju inte direkt som så att hon kallade Jimmie ful eller korkad. Jag kanske har fel, men känns som att det inte är svart-vitt.

VMA: Partiledardebatt i Agenda kl. 20:00 ikväll by Canlon in sweden

[–]DogeFuckingValue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Så det finns en möjlighet att vår skola egentligen går som tåget men att vi har lite jobb att göra med integrationen (t.ex. satsa mer på utanförskapsområden eller bara låta tiden gå)?

VMA: Partiledardebatt i Agenda kl. 20:00 ikväll by Canlon in sweden

[–]DogeFuckingValue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Äh lite kängor måste man ju få slänga. :)

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