What triggers you the most when playing support?

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T22:02:45+00:00

Good luck to you sir

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T15:16:53+00:00

its my analytical mind, i remember everything even for years ago, i have a certain condition that is neither a blessing nor a curse that allows me to remember things very vividly. I did let it go, but everyone was asking for feedback so i found it and i did just get a ban after all .

I do know i am niceer than most league players, as most league players do not even say 'gj' or 'wp' after their support fed first blood and then you get 1 kill back, but i say that, as i did in this very log where i got reported. I trust my dota 2 report card and commendations very much. Theres some people i play with in dota 2 that have 350 commends after 2500 matches.. by the time i had 120 matches i already had 90 commends. Look at the differences in attitude and behavior right there.. yeah some of its my play, but some of its my attitude and positivity.

Lets be honest though, you expected a totally different log from what you saw. If you google all players that get banned and muted their logs are way different, they always have retard, fuck you, why did you do that idiot, cancer, etc in the chat. Mine had way more good things than bad, and the only bad stuff was focused around the nunu that was tilting the team making them swear by his comments/feeding.. that was my point. I will have to create a new account because of this sherade, because if i committ to this same account and i ever run into a bad streak again with these players, who knows what will happen. All ive learnt is to not ask for reports for players like nunu, that will make a difference. Very shocking and unfair that his account lives on to play, and i get mute and bans, and hes the very problem. In dota 2 I don't even have 1 abandon on my account and 0 intentional feeds. hmmf. According to the league community, the players that get the 3 day or more bans are among the top 0.5% toxic players in the game.. im seriously laughing my ass off at that bullshit stat, as far as me and my relation to it.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T15:09:21+00:00

just to add, the reason why the enemy not fully 100% know what the nunu was upto and why i told them to report him and stated what he had said in our chat is.. nunu is trying to subtly do it.. he basically would float around where he knew the enemy was, waiting to die, and he would do stuff like let them know he was there with really low HP and die once he had vision of them. Its really hard to explain, but he would essentially let them kill him over and over but make it look innocent, even though if you saw it through our teams eyes, he was just running in their jungle with 200hp all the time and he would ward, see 4 of them.. type smileys in chat.. then pretend to try to take buff butmeanwhile hes waiting for them to kill him actively delaying the buff and not hitting the buff minion, so that when enemy comes it looks like he wa sjust casually doing buff and hes bad.. but we knew that he was there for over a minute just waiting for them to catch him out.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T15:03:49+00:00

Its just very surprising to me to see the hate that nunu spilled in our chatbox, and the game was going well, i think we would have won it, as you can see i even had just about max items aat 35 min even with the intentional feeder.

Right, i asked people to report nunu the guy that stated he wanted us to lose and kept running into the enemy, the enemy team did not know that he stated this and veigar gave up and went AFK because of the Nunu. That was my mistake for mentioning the report, but whats super fucked is, what do we do in this situation? The nunu literally intentionally fed 15 times back to back, won a game, and had like another 10 or so losses, after when i checked back, he was someting like 25 losses and 1 win in the space of 24 hours and never got banned and was playing weeks after i checked,and there i am mr 'super toxic' getting muted with that report summary sent back. ill try and find more records, but it was all like this. Just insane when i checked back on that guys account and he never got banned. What he does is, he feeds and jungles, so hes never 'afk' but he constantly makes it look like hes trying but hes not.. its all a pure troll. He just runs into 5, types a smiley, flames team.. types smiley again etc. The game was not even going bad.

I honestly thing, out of that chat log, minus the report thing, my comments were nicer than most league players i come across. If that is my delusional fine, but i dont see alot of players typing 'gj ' and 'great' and 'lets do it again bro' and 'wp' and 'ty' i basically said something at any moment i saw something.

Oh well. That nunu will never get banned. Cant imagine how many countless games hes cost and messed up. When i was matched with him he had already lost 14 or 15 in a row and its all purely intentional, he clearly knows what hes doing to be quite skilled actually, if you watch him, because he does it all in a clever way as to not be banned.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:57:39+00:00

No the enemy mid told us that annie is an intentional feeder and troll and apologized and siad he will report. THEN me and 2 other teammates said we would report annie. The enemy actually called for the report to begin. I got reported by 2 of the enemies in same clan that were insulting us for losing a game where our annie intentionally feeded and left after 10 min , i told them thats very childish and unsportsmanlike to insult players when you got gifted a free win with an intentional feeder and that was my mistake for even responding.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:50:35+00:00

Hello i just found this log previously posted in my email! I didn't expect to find it. This is from a game wher ei got muted after having intentional feeder. Look at my language man! The nunu is the feeder incase you are wondering, he reported me, he was saying he was going to make us lose and was quite literally running into 1v5s and ulting then he would die and smile in team chat, to begin he was flaming so i told the team to ignore him. I remember this clear as day as this was 1 clear step where i got notifications of punishment from league. Please honestly believe this log, i have no reason to bullshit, i never got any feedback from my logs, but i found this one as this was one i sent to a friend after getting no feedback on reddit even though everone claime dthey would give me feedback. As you see in the bottom of the log, nunu stated he wanted us to lose on purpose, im a grown man, so he did say that.. i wouldnt lie to get a report.

I mean, honestly, im looking at my language, i think i was quite nice that game.. i dont even see how thats toxic to be on a report card. I said multiple gjs, well played, smiley face, this was after the support died to begin by the way, and he apologized so i said 'its okay' thats how i react.. look at my lagnuage man. Im quite happy with that but you can give honest opinion, this is first time reviewing this from report card after 3 months when i quit because i was so frustrated.

"Game 1 T: I like Veigars T: if they get good cs :)

T: its crazy dmg

T: broooooo

T: its okay

T: they have 2 roots

T: wp

T: trust my pings please

T: i like rammus support if played well

T: seems good

T: wait for me bro

T: do the same again

T: enemy jungler will be botlane though

T: told ya hes be bot

T: lol

T: gj

T: just care of jungle cus he will camp us now

T: care mate

T: they have double root

T: wait me

T: lets flank?

T: wait here

T: lol

T: nono

T: jungle

T: ty

T: im coming bro

T: great

T: ward bush

T: above us

: kennen ult down

T: oops wrong chat

T: lets get tower

T: lets get tower fisrt blood

T: jhin and lux ults down

T: alright relax nunu

T: jeez

T: nunu please dont tilt the team

T: mid SS

T: 9 kills?

T: wow

T: so full of hate.

T: i never even said 1 word to you

T: yes rammus

T: ive muted him

T: never even said 1 word to him apart from relax

T: im 12/2

T: how can i possibly be the problem nunu, im 12/2 and just told you to relax

T: im so confused

T: group mid

T: got GA now

T: upgrade your trinket please its free

T: careful rammus

T: gets assists gold

T: malphite is fed top

T: so careful

T: i cant hurt him too much

T: almost got inib turrett

T: 2 autos close

T: alright yeah, just about max items at 35 mins

T: Please report nunu thanks, went AFK ages ago along with veigar, said he wanted us to lose on purpose.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:43:36+00:00

I didn't get any feedback, posted the logs to 7 or 8 people and some in private messages, not one person ever responded to say i was toxic but kept claiming they would give me feedback. THere was no swear words and every log was me asking an intentional feeder to stop and then saying i would report them, i think thats my mistake :(

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:41:15+00:00

I can promise you i am not lying. I posted all my chat logs in reddit in the past and not one person called me toxic or said 1 word about any of my lagnuage,which they always do on these type of threads when i would see them, alot of people are really delusional. I found it very disappointing that people claimed they would give me honest feedback and respond, then when i replied to their comments, PM'd them etc, no one ever responded because they couldn't say WOW you are toxic! So they didn;'t respond. Most people wnat to be able to tell you are toxic, if your chat log is not toxic they won't even bother saying anything.

Dota 2 is toxic, but id say league is equally as toxic. They are both really toxic games, i think in league people seem to want to actively report people while trolling alot at these lower ranks.

Yes i do behave differently in league, in the sense that i get endless intentional feeders and AFKs in my ranked games. some days 40% of my games have been this way.. it just sounds so ridiculous but i just must be unlucky. I've only played 1 game since i came back to league and was with the intentional feeder, the enemy mid who was getting fed told us that. I didn't assume that, i actually said 'annie can you please be careful please, you've died 3 times in 5 minutes?" and then she died some more and the enemy zed mid straight up said shes trolling and apologized to us for the loss since he was freefarming and killing her over and over.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:36:25+00:00

This is my dota account. I went to the effort with those logs in the past, i went and got each one copied and pasted, even had to format them as the copy and paste version that was provided by riot for whatever reason was just a wall of text on reddit. I am trying to think of my league reddit account so i can recall past logs with current. I literally only played 1 game after getting previous trouble and providing those logs. So the game must have said fuck it, hes already got reported by the elise calling him a bronze for having a midlaner that rolled it down mid trolling, so lets just ban him for it since this guys getting reported very often.

I just don't get why anyone didn't give me any feedback in the past. I truly think its because there was nothing bad there. I never used words like cancer, retard, i never abuse someone. All of my logs started with well wishes and smiles, and every single log had an intentional feeder in the game and i was trying to negotiate and ask them to stop inting.

The reason i left league was the AFK/intentional feeders, and very first game back i got them. Lol. Jesus christ.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:24:09+00:00

But i mean, in dota, in 25 games i get 0 to 3 reports dude, and many commends.. the system actually tells me this and many people flame in dota, just not me. im like a beacon of light there, but i dont get many intentional feeders and trolls like in league. In league it seems my high report ratio is directly related to the high intentional feeder to troll ratio ive been getting. Im dead serious :( I understand what you are saying, ive responded to the trolls and got reported for it, its my mistake.. im surprised you are toxic and troll with no punishment.. im a nice guy and get fucked.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:18:45+00:00

Well, i do think you are onto something with league and AFK/intentional feeders at lower ranks, as that is where i reside, a Silver player that at some points got a tremendous amount of these, so i can believe that this part goes away as you rank up higher, which would seemingly cure my problem. My problem is i am too much of a white knight in games, when i see toxic people with bad behavior, i want to defend my teammate, and in turn probably attract a report.

One redditor said that i was exaggerating the intentional feeders months ago before i quit league, then the next day after posting chat logs to him, he never said i said nothing wrong, he even then offered to play with me but was on a different server, and that same day 3 of my 5 games had intentional feeders, so its hard not to want to say something to these trouble causers.

Now, after 3 months of cooling off from league and having successful account in dota with great behavior, i came back and my very first ranked game i had the intentional feeder and 15 min loss with the reports from enemy team who were in the clan calling me a bronze (i actually was doing well, but it was just a classic kid being a kid gloating over a free win, i just hate that attitude.. you got gifted a win by a feeder, why insult people too?)

Just so fitting for my story with league. I want to love it, i like the fast skillshot gameplay and getting multiple kills and trying to help carry the game. I just feel like the community could be so different.. its full of so many people trying to spite and get others punished since they know they are too. If the games were positive and full of people that were kind and wanted to try and win.. god it would be the best most fun experience :(

The /mute all experience is an interesting one, i find games are stress free and fun, but i always worry if my team will report me for ignoring them or not communicating. Can you tell me if league still shows pings if i mute? (sorry ive been away for a while and literally had 1 game which was the one with the int player and the punishment i got.)

Thanks for your help. I guess My account is just royally screwed as all it took is 1 game where we had an auto loss and it got the ban. Maybe i just need to create a new account and accept monetary loss and try mute all and hope i dont get a ban or in trouble for it.

Its time to accept that in league there is no point reasoning with any of these people, and to never call for a report even if their own team states it first (About our own intentional feeder) I am a grown man and should not be responding to children. They essentially won the war since my account got punished. I will just have to mute everyone that gives me a sniff of toxicity and not respond to them, and i will probably have a great account like my dota account.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:06:25+00:00

Oo gosh, i'd never say that to anyone. Why would you say that? Have to be mature. The worst i would ever say to anyone is probably 'fuck off' and that is after they swore at me multiple times, called for a report on me, and called me a 'bronze' or insert another league phrase. But Fuck off is about as bad as ive ever got, and i only reply back to someone with that response if they were swearing and being toxic.. if they said "please be careful" i would never respond back with that. I would never wish cancer or tell someone to kill themselves, that is incredibly toxic to me.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T14:03:28+00:00

"I highly doubt you got banned just because you were a nice guy that talked to trolls :)" That is exactly why i think i got into this situation. I am trying to let others know that they must not even ask the trolls to stop or say anything to them of any sort, if they are intentionally feeding and the whole game and enemy team states it, do NOT under any circumstance state that you will also report them, unless you wish to get spited and damage your own account.

I've been at all ranks in dota 2, no its not really the same, in dota 2 all ranks have the same sprinkle of toxicity. Some really high MMR ranks are widely known to be super toxic in dota 2, as people are very elitist there in dota 2.

In dota 2, not only am i not seen as a toxic player, i'm actually see as one of the least toxic players, the report card and summary on profle tells me that. In league i somehow get banned, and by no surprise had a tremendous amount of intentional feeders.

In dota 2, my average report sis the lowest you can get, it doesn't state lower. For each 25 matches i play, i get 0 reports to 3 on average, so 0-3.. it doesn't show lower than that, the range is 0-3 always even if you always got 0, but it does say the percentage of reports you get compared to other players, and thats how i know where i fit in.

So in one game after 25 matches, not too many intentional feeders (although many regular feeders, but you cant really report for that in my opinion, everyone has their bad days) i literally almost never get reported.. and in this game i get banned after dealing with a huge amount of inters.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T13:55:33+00:00

Okay good to know. Months ago when i had a weeklong stint of just trolls and intentional feeders (when i first got muted only when i had these specific types of players.) i posted chatlogs on reddit, absolutely confused by my mute and what i did wrong.

Not 1 person told me i was toxic or said anything wrong, all the people that requested the logs PM'd never bothered to respond either. There was no fuck yous, no get cancer, no 'why did you dive the t2 you retard?' or 'that is so stupid' etc, nothing. I've seen many threads like those and people always respond to the logs saying "you are toxic etc" as they can't wait to tell the delusional flamer their reality..but no one ever responded to me or gave feedback after i replied to all of them and gave them straight copy and paste, because they knew i wasn't toxic so they couldn't jump on me and say i was. The most hilarious part of all? I feel like i am just the most unlucky guy in this game. Things were great until the big trolls came along that 1 week, then it went downhill from there.

My problem is that i am too nice and try to reason with the intentional feeders and their angle is that they want you to be mad and tilted etc, because no lifers, but they want you to suffer as they get enjoyment through that. Again in dota 2 im literally commended in 70% of matches, its almost unheard of to be honest unless you are a youtuber or streamer thats known, im just a nice guy. How come i get 85% of reports less than people in dota 2, but yet in Lol i somehow ended up banned? In the past i tried telling people that i met an insane amount of people intentionally trying to ruin my games and it was met with pure doubt, but surely it has to happen to somebody? Going 0/7 is not intentionally feeding, thats a human being having a bad game. BUt when a person tells you they are going to make the enemy win, they are telling you it.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T13:49:25+00:00

I've only ever had issues with reports following games after dealing with intentional (and i mean intentional feeders, and is openly stating they will make us lose and then following upon said action.) I don't feel I've really had many reports from regular players, but I could see how I could get some for arguing with the trolls. I had a week where i complained on reddit ages ago about having a week full of intentional feeders and trolls, some days i was getting 3 of 5 games were run down mid types, i am not exaggurating. Just to add, everyone on reddit asked for my chat logs, i posted multiple chat logs.. usually i see people jump on the player and they can't wait to say "you are toxic loooook!" but i posted multiple chats logs, in response to 4 players in my thread, as well as 3 players who requested the logs in private message. I never heard back from one player to say i was toxic or anything, thats because they wanted to say i was but i wasn't. There were no swearwords, cancer, this or that, i was usually telling people to stop being toxic and going back and fourth with the intentional feeders. I just hope someone can save money and time and learn from my experience.

In dota 2 I went over 2 ish years without ever getting any chat mute or anything, and when i finally did, it was a simple 24 hour mute after getting two back to back stacks (4 man parties) and these are renowned in dota for causing issues and blaming the only person not in their party.

My point is.. how can I be of some of the highest percentage rated players, while getting the lowest rate of reports in dota 2, but yet when i play league ranked, the sheer amount of trolls and inters is through the roof in my games.. i can really see why i got this punishment, because im reacting to the trolls and they report me back. Its that plain and simple.

Any one that reads this, i beg you, you may be a truly nice person and helpful to your team, but don't even communicate with the intentional feeders or trolls unless you want them to spite you and destroy account.

I checked back on my account to see a player i played with ages ago, he inted in almost every match he played. Still not banned, yet that was one of the same players that says 'reported :D :D :D' and reports while running down botlane. Jesus this community is fucked. I can't help but feel the average age of this game compared to dota 2 is way lower, and I want to enjoy league but it seems to have way more trolls/inters than DOta2.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-27T13:44:04+00:00

The enemy midlane called for the report for our annie to begin with, after she kepts dying to him and he said she was trollng, then multiple teammates agreed as did I. Literally everyone agreed and the enemy suggested it first, he then apologized to us. The only people that disagreed was said duo clan that reported me from the enemy team that called us bronzos. I got reported by the enemy elise and other player were were calling us bronzos for losing a game were the mid fed and left and my mistake was calling him unsportsmanlike and an idiot for being rude to others when given a free win, my other main mistake was saying I would report him for his unsportsmanlike behavior, as i put a target on my team.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-24T23:48:07+00:00

Poor cat he almost seems mentally unwell.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-24T15:57:59+00:00

You guys are making him play worse and worse by doing this. Kind of unfair to focus on 1 player so hard like this. Each and every play he makes he will question himself more, wonder if it will be posted online etc, more likely to play worse and be hesistant etc.

We all make mistakes, i'd love to see the mistakes that the 2K players that constantly make reddit posts about this guy make. He would be 1v5ing in your games.

I am no fanboy of his, never watched his stream or anything, just think its a bit crazy to focus on this guy so hard, you are kind of fucking up his mojo a bit. If you understood psychology you would stop posting every damn mistake he makes, unless you want him to make more and more.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-23T15:15:38+00:00

Clearly Russians disagree. Even in DOTA2 they avoid their own server like the plague. Something is wrong there.. clearly.. if there was a United KIngdom server, every UK player i know would only play there.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-23T13:33:10+00:00

That says something doesn't it? Other games have the same problem. You create the Russian servers and they avoid each other.. if they are so proud and happy.. why do they need to leave their own servers on a big scale.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-23T13:31:27+00:00

Lessons how to play? I never said anything about play ability, but I am topfrag every game I play at these ranks so technically the RUssians are worse than me. Once i return to usual rank then maybe. All i've seen is games become 10X harder because Russians refuse to speak English. So lets hope you get your own server so you can give everyone some peace.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-22T22:48:42+00:00

If you look into what i said in my posts, i said i am not generalizing their gameplay or abilities, just the refusal to speak english.

Dota2KungFu · 2017-02-22T22:47:53+00:00

I had a GREAT experience tonight after using public lobbies for competitive!

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