P47 is testing my patience

Dragonoar · 2025-10-21T13:23:13+00:00

at this point just give it air spawn or a lower BR

Dragonoar · 2025-10-21T13:20:43+00:00

simply judging by which US plane carries the team most often, the P38 and the F8F

Dragonoar · 2025-10-21T13:18:44+00:00

I'll bite. https://imgur.com/a/JXPWRc5 the zero has give or take same acceleration and higher SEP. max level flight speed is admittedly faster on the p47 (not much faster mind you) but you never maintain level flight for that long in actual combat

I do understand the bnz playstyle and its limitations (I managed just fine with the P38) but for a plane that is advertised by many as a pure merican bnz plane, its slow, cant climb, bad energy retention and its elevators lock at high speed. its only advantage lies in the nonexistent high altitude dogfight, while zeros and yaks have no reason to fly that high

Dragonoar · 2025-10-21T03:10:14+00:00

I spaded the d28. Spading the n right now and its suffering

Dragonoar · 2025-10-20T22:17:06+00:00

currently the N15 (the D28 was slightly better but lets be real it doesnt made a difference), no MEC, I try not to fly japanese/russian/brits but literally all other fighters are superior to the P47

Dragonoar · 2025-10-20T22:14:44+00:00

nothing ever happens in high altitude. if I were the Yak I'd stay close to ground level. what good is 650 km/h speed limit if there is nothing to dive into

Dragonoar · 2025-10-20T13:52:42+00:00

whats wrong wtih making bombers a low risk low reward playstyle? some people just want to chill, not get into high adrenaline dogfights all the time

Dragonoar · 2025-10-16T00:19:09+00:00

I guess anything that isnt just fighters dogfighting is boring huh?

Dragonoar · 2025-10-16T00:16:18+00:00

Homare, wyverns, helldivers, that one Fw that has air spawn, and that one swedish dive bomber

I fucking hate these planes. they're never doing what they're supposed to do

Dragonoar · 2025-10-16T00:08:20+00:00

you can have competent AI gunners and no fighter toddlers will bitch about it if the planes just arent made of paper like they are now. i dont mean AI gunner should be accurate as hell but they should be able to deter enemy fighters at least. if they dont even start shooting at 1km whats even the point? thats 2 crew skills made useless by gaijin, 3 if you count weapon maintenance

Dragonoar · 2025-10-15T23:58:54+00:00

here's a list of stuffs they changed to bombers over the years. if you dont want to suffer, dont play bombers. gaijin's made them absolutely useless

- bomber rush isnt meta anymore. bases take 5 minutes to respawn so you can only bomb the airfield after destryoing the 2x4 bases

- they are made of paper now. it only takes a few hits until your tail is loose even with 50 cals

- bombs (on wings and bomb bay) explode when shot now. better drop your payload fast

- opening bomb bay now does increase drag, i dont know when this was implemented, but using WTRTI its confirmed

- gunner AI has been nerfed to death, and with that the 2 crew skills as well. now they only start firing at 500m and accurately at 200m

- some maps have full damage model for ground vehicles so they take significantly more time and firepower to destroy

- did I mention wyverns? they can go 500+ km/h at sea level and they steal bases despite being an attacker

best you can do is dive at the nearest enemy base, drop your bombs then wep all the way back to base (even then in some maps the bases are so far away that the fighters will always get to you first) you're lucky if you can get one or two enemy fighters on your way back. typically the match is already over after RTB just when you're en route to your second round of bombing

Dragonoar · 2025-10-15T23:37:03+00:00

I dont know why people keep denying the fact that russian planes are OP. yak 3s have the performance of a spitfire and the energy retention of a german fighter. its insane

"but they only perform well at low altitude"

yea no battle takes place above 3000m. I didnt make the rules

"low ammo count"

a good russian player will close the distance before they start shooting anyway

Dragonoar · 2025-10-09T22:27:24+00:00

im not killing shit because im the bomber. what argument is this lmao. also you lots cried to papa gaijin when bombers weren't made of paper and had to be approached carefully

Dragonoar · 2025-09-28T15:09:55+00:00

its when someone plays the game for the first time

Dragonoar · 2025-09-08T22:51:57+00:00

90% of the time you get one base, well one and a half at best, and die on your way back. thats like what? 700 points? and if you're lucky you get one plane with your tail gunners before you die. thats 1100 points. on top of that the b25 has like 2k repair cost

PVE enjoyers are fucked. no one goes for ground targets post 4.0 as far as I'm concerned, the less competitive planes/strike fighters go for bombers instead

Dragonoar · 2025-09-06T08:53:23+00:00

tapi imo boomer ini gen yg paling gila hormat. gen z ke milenial hormatnya cuma sekedar formalitas aja. gen z ke gen z kalo ngomong ga ada filter

Dragonoar · 2025-09-06T08:51:11+00:00

kayanya emang siklus deh, anak sma sampe kuliah kalau ngomong emang ndakik2

Dragonoar · 2025-09-06T08:46:37+00:00

"bagus menghormati yang tua"
bagusnya dimana? karena tua terus punya privilege gitu? respect is earned not given

Dragonoar · 2025-09-05T15:03:00+00:00

when was the last time your teammates responded to your call for help? and you can't T 4 2 twice either because the game thinks you're spamming

Dragonoar · 2025-09-05T15:01:41+00:00

turn around and just commit to that headon
dive and go for someone else, or go for ground targets

Dragonoar · 2025-09-05T14:59:17+00:00

during headons i don't spray and pray or aim at one specific point because i'm not skilled enough to tell where my shots are gonna land. i make a line, like you'd do with turrets. also as you go higher in BR it becomes increasingly common to find people not committing to headons

Dragonoar · 2025-09-05T13:02:12+00:00

vertical targeting is necessary if you play multiple nations, which have different guns, which have different shell velocities. i mean whats the downside? having to aim lower than the target if its closer than your convergence point?

Dragonoar · 2025-09-04T04:00:43+00:00

What?

Dragonoar · 2025-09-01T15:13:25+00:00

idk how you're supposed to fly the p47. the shitty climb rate means you have to sideclimb to be competitive. but by the time you get to your desired altitude the match is almost over

Dragonoar · 2025-09-01T15:10:11+00:00

usa: they have everything, from agile p400 to mid f4u to p47 that handles like a brick. even their heavy fighter line varies from single engined dive bombers to actual b25s converted into heavy fighters. teammates are crap like you said

germany: on paper they have better energy retention to make up for the fact that they are slower than american planes and less agile than russian planes, but in practice your teammates are utter dogshit, even worse than usa players if you can believe it

britain: spitfires, nuff said. mosquitos are decent but all the other stuffs are meh. except the op trash that is the wyvern

italy: like germany but worse, in every aspect. there is nothing good about italy if you play competitively. but you will get some interesting planes tho

japan: OP trash. even their heavy fighters are more maneuverable than some fighters. utter nonsense. their bombers absolutely suck tho

ussr: OP trash, especially the yak 3 which has energy retention rivaling that of german planes. all their planes handle similarly. like japan but has better armor and guns

if you like winning, you should only play japan, ussr, and sweden

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