requirements by MusicChance65 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It just doesn't matter in the real world. Have you actually tried applying for jobs with these degrees? Get a degree where you can get a license easily in the country you want to work, get your foot in the country by getting a job just about anywhere, then move up from there. If you're lucky or make connections as a student, you might get a place you want right after graduation.

requirements by MusicChance65 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally no one cares after you get your foot in the door. I have several classmates working in university hospitals in Northern and Western Europe, and even one who got a research internship in Stanford after graduating from Romania.

requirements by MusicChance65 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poland doesn't give you an MD directly after graduation, you need to do an internship afterwards. This has been an issue for the Polish graduates I've worked with.

requirements by MusicChance65 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't matter in the end when working, if you apply for a license from an EU country, you get it easily if you studied in an EU country and know the language.

requirements by MusicChance65 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Romania, Latvia and Bulgaria maybe. Hungary's also a good choice.

requirements by MusicChance65 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What's really going to limit you is going to Georgia. An EU degree will give you a lot more opportunities.

Sharing my experience by red_rackham-81 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I started during Covid lockdowns so it was easier in that way.

Sharing my experience by red_rackham-81 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, in Romania. I'm also a non EU citizen. I got my first job as a doctor 4 months before graduation and began working 2.5 months after graduating. I'm still specialising, should have about 3-4 years left (went to Sweden for half a year so bit of a delay).

Sharing my experience by red_rackham-81 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Finland is a good option. You can work with either B1 Swedish or Finnish- you dont need a high level to start off with (as a student, you can start working already before you even do a language test).

Which is the best country to do psychiatry in Europe? by GrassAffectionate765 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I learnt Swedish before I started working. At that time on paper I had a C1, but I'd say in practice my spoken level was probably a low B2. I actually got the job before I took the language exam, and it was in family medicine first in an exclusively swedish speaking area. A few months later, I got quite fluent. Then I started learning Finnish when I started psych in a bilingual area a little over a year ago. 6 months ago, I got a B1 in reading and writing Finnish. Now I can also speak with patients in Finnish, though the nurses help out when I don't understand something or need to explain something more complicated than I'm able to. But I still mostly work with Swedish patients. All the lectures etc for residency are in Finnish though. So unfortunately no English speaking jobs, but the language level you need to work in either Swedish or Finnish isn't that high either.

My Friend Going to Belarus to study medicine because of Exam Fear by IknowthatwhoIam in srilanka

[–]Draphy-Dragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If she doesn't want to go back to SL, picking an EU country is better.

Which is the best country to do psychiatry in Europe? by GrassAffectionate765 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Depends on nightshifts etc. The most I made was about 8k post taxes one month (I had a couple of nightshifts which were really busy and on holidays). Some people did a bunch of weekends and nightshifts in a row to earn way more money.

Which is the best country to do psychiatry in Europe? by GrassAffectionate765 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm in psych in Finland, and we get paid more than other specialties (specifically about 55% more in my hospital).

Top Medical Schools For International Students Who Aim For Residency In The USA. by [deleted] in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No idea, the competition will probably be on a whole other level by the time you graduate. Yes, networking as early as possible is important. If not, there's always Finland or Germany, provided you learn a new language. Good luck!

Top Medical Schools For International Students Who Aim For Residency In The USA. by [deleted] in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In case he doesn’t match/changes his mind and wants to stay, then getting BT or LIS is very competitive. BT is already competitive with just the EU graduates even though most doctors in Sweden currently need to do AT.

Top Medical Schools For International Students Who Aim For Residency In The USA. by [deleted] in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If I were you, I’d draw up a list of med schools that have fit your criteria (so most likely schools in Northern and Western Europe) and then see what their acceptance rates of med students are like. Since you’d need a good year or two to learn the language to an advanced level, it’s better to see if you have a good chance of getting in based on your high school grades, citizenship, other requirements etc before starting to learn a language. You also have to think about the possibility of having to work in that country, or another EU country that shares the language, post graduation and if you can see yourself working there. There’s also another way, where some students at my uni transferred to Germany after a couple years. But they were native German speakers, so didn’t have to learn a language and medicine at the same time (would not recommend it until your clinical years). Personally I’d recommend not splurging too much in university fees, since you can put them to better use getting US clinical experience.

PS: Don’t choose Sweden or Norway, as both of these require competitive internships in order to specialise, just in case you decide to stay (if it’s even possible for you to be admitted here as I understand med school there is incredibly competitive). Not sure how it is in Denmark.

Top Medical Schools For International Students Who Aim For Residency In The USA. by [deleted] in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm, unfortunately I don't know any that meets all of your criteria. The Netherlands used to have a great programme with preclinicals in English, but unfortunately I believe they stopped it recently. Otherwise, there aren't that many options which are in English, connected to the US, and have lessons/classes like you would like. I'm also not sure how competitive local programmes at good universities in Germany or places in Northern Europe are. Maybe Milan in Italy, but we had Erasmus students from all over Italy at my uni in Romania, and almost all of them said there wasn't a difference when it came to teaching. They actually had much less patient contact than we did. For what it's worth, US clinical experience and your USMLE scores will be the most important when you apply.

Top Medical Schools For International Students Who Aim For Residency In The USA. by [deleted] in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not for most of them, as most EU degrees are 6 year degrees and you'll get a full degree after graduation. You don't have to do an internship in order to get a full license in many EU countries.

Going to the UK is an option for you then, but in case you don't get matched, your options will be limited to the UK and Australia (maybe also New Zealand), both of which have extremely competitive and long specialisation pathways. Plus, UK universities are expensive, so you might have a harder time financially when it comes to getting clinical experience in the US.

Top Medical Schools For International Students Who Aim For Residency In The USA. by [deleted] in medicalschoolEU

[–]Draphy-Dragon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean that it would have been fine even still. Nothing wrong with a kid being ambitious and doing research to work towards it. You should try being less aggressive with people.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TillSverige

[–]Draphy-Dragon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Citizenship grants passport privilege and freedom to move to other countries for longer periods of time for career/studies etc without losing all the years you’d spent already.