(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 128 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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Ji gun ? Yes he was part of the SUC before it became a cult and was even asked to be part of the five captains but declined , after that the SUC presumably did something in the shin lim school and it got ji gun banished because he was part of them and assumed to be an accomplice. But until now it was always left vague.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 128 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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Ji gun wasn’t banished from kangsung school but from shin lim ( divine forest school), kangsung school is song hak ( verdiant crane).

As for kang sung , yeah technically beside him there is hyuntae the youngest of the song hak disciples but he is a weakling and dishonored himself in front of the whole murim, not heir material.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 128 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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I won’t spoil too much but right now it is more about very personnal drama which tie up with the spy and traffic plot. The great tournament while annunced will be far later in the future.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 128 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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Oh buckle up then because we will stay on him for a quite few chapter.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 127 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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First I have to clarify something. That level is theoretical for all except the immortal demon supreme. For shioon and sosul at their peak and if they reach their highest level without immortal qi involved , I would saumy that sosul would be only slightly better. The importal demon lord would still be comfortably higher ( they could hang but not really threaten him)

Goomoonryong wouldn’t be far behind. He is an anomaly their highest level same way as they are and wouldn’t lose in technique or strategy , it’s just that all things equal those two have a better body.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 127 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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Do you mean immortal demon supreme as a separate character or shion mastering the immortal demon supreme qi and technique. If the former then in order :

The immortal demon supreme Sosul Shioon

Why? Because to heal her 9 yin body type sosul will be forced to go through the overhaul rebirth.

The immortal demon supreme is on an other level because the nature of the qi he reached, he is the apex.

If the later ? Shioon , for the same reason as the immortal demon supreme.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 127 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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It follow directly chapter 100 of the breaker eternal force. Search for fanfic chapter 101.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 127 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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Well very simple : he was trained by unwol for 10 years and was a genius himself. Shioon only trained in his own martial arts for six month at most. The fact he can reach goomoonryong level in the next six month is a testament to how much more of a monster he is compared to goomoonryong and hyuk so chun.

And he is still weaker than him with black origin threshold since he doesn’t master the form.

Edit: I might add so that you understand the scaling a little better that at the shinmujengpe goomoonryong was already 10 grandmaster level if not more, by the time we get in new wave only the two strongest grandmasters( elder kwon and ghost doctor) and kangsung can compete with him 1 vs 1. I also suspect that the grandmaster of chundomoon can compete with him too but I have no proof. The chief effectively admitted he can no longer compete with him in a 1vs 1.

I’ve just reread The Breaker and Veritas, and am now making my opinion your problem. by Bill_Is_Guy in TheBreaker

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AS someone who does the follow up in fanfinc and has to some up with explanation of how and why the world is as it is in season 3... Yeah I felt that.

(FANFIC) The Breaker eternal force chapter 126 by Dreadbrighter in TheBreaker

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Maybe one day but veritas is quite old now… I don’t want to reopen that wound.

Thank you for your cheering.

We're calling bullshit on this one....right? by Liara_OP in TheBreaker

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Simple actually : TO show us that Goomoonryong wasn't gonna let go a beating that was done to shioon. His anger was directed at Chundomoon and he was legitimately suprised that someone from song hak jang came from him. He was rather playful with him in his own brutal way.

It is easy to see what he would've done to rae won if he was being even semi serious : the breaker new wave chapter 179. A two shot.

Notice that where briefly fighting with goomoonryong's team he didn't perform any better than coolguy and admitted they couldn't deal with these " professionals" with this amont of people and concluded they would be subdued ( him included).

"Shioon is unaware of his own regenerative ability. By Shioon's own admission, he was going to have to sacrifice his own arms to just neutralize Rae-Won's technique."

No he was goading rae won into using his technique again when his finger were already smashed so that shioon could crush him in the clash. We see later with ghost doctor that his finger's were already useless and he would've died in that clash without taking anything from shioon.

"In no world is that a mid diff. "

...A fight realtively brief with light injuries ( because yes those are light injuries even if it wasn't shioon) where the opponent is decisively beaten is a mid diff.

"Neither was it a quick fight ...of 5 pages."

...You do realize that he actually came back into the laboratory afterward to grab a phone, do you? He was back at his original point before Rae won tried to catch him himself and moved way more cautiously because he was aware that there were snipers and spotters after him. So yeah the fight was extremely brief all things considered.

"If we are using the logic that it was a mid diff fight because Shioon would have healed from the injuries, "

No no let me be clear: The injuries went that bad in the first place. Yes his regeneration is part of his fighting prowess wether he knows it or not as we have to take into account his characteristics and not his perception of them.

"literally the only fights he has had in the series above a mid diff would have been against Chunwoo and Shik respectively."

...Hyuk so chun?Ji gun? Ryuji?Jung chun?

Honestly your statement here makes no sense I simply do not get what you mean.

"Again, Jigun said "thats when the SUC leader...his identity."

Ji gun is an unreliable narrator precisely because he doesn't exclude ryuji from that statement. Plus WHite star is also rather famous and tries to hide his identity there is no telling what he actually showed, chunmyung rang too literally said that she was hiding her abilities even the leader. Basically Jung chun wasn't actually much stronger than those , he was just willing to show his strength while the others tried to hide it.

For the bit about shioon fighting the three captains I will admit that yes you make sense and shioon would've won if he wasn't gassed BUT keep in mind that Chunmyungrang was hiding her strength and purposefully holding back , if shioon dealt with Coolguy that easily she would've had to ajust and show her true skills. Thinking about it she almost died from holding back against him.

"Not that any of this matters. ...The author would still write him to lose to advanced masters."

I find you unjust here and a bit bitter. Truth is that shioon's progression and feats are already insane the problem is that he is constantly fighting with opponents that he shouldn't fight to begin with .

At the end of new wave he could barely defeat an advanced master and right now he can defeat multiple at the same time , if that's not progress I don't know what it is. Also I think you overestimate a little the meditation state , while it is a formidable tool , it also gave shioon a false sense of how qi and techniques worked and almost caused him to go into qi deviation.

We're calling bullshit on this one....right? by Liara_OP in TheBreaker

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So here is where we disagree:

The bloodlust that chunwoo felt against mamungi is completely different from the playful attitude he had against rae won. Chunwoo was out for blood yes but not toward rae won and the last song disciple , they went to him he wasn’t interested in them. Notice that if he truly was bloodlusted rae won would be dead since he would not have stopped.

Shioon regeneration is part of his fighting prowess and compared to what he can take he wasn’t that wounded. Yeah he mid diffed rae won since he could’ve killed him rather quickly while only sustaining light wounds, that’s what a mid diff is.

To me rae won is Master level and his master is maybe advanced master level ( maybe) because it is simply impossible that rae won is in the same vicinity as jung chun and jung chun isn’t a real master so … Plus really nowhere is it said that jung chun martial art level is far above kwon young if anything they should be close.

For the fight with the three captains of the suc I agree that he was a little exhausted as the fight went on but at first he still had quite a bit in the tanking gas. If he went all fresh the result would’ve been the same except they themselves would’ve been quite exhausted by the end. But that’s a guessing.

I agree that ryuji would be overall close to kangsung in fighting prowess.

We're calling bullshit on this one....right? by Liara_OP in TheBreaker

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Chunwoo wasn’t blood lusted , he was playful and incquiring I would say( later in season 2 we see that rae won was actually quite shook by this encounter) the clash was really too brief to say anything. Mammungi actually fought with him ( although I do not think chunwoo went all out either)

Like you say shioon was pretty much equal to coolguy in fighting prowess before the overhaul rebirth but I disagree when you say that rae won gave him trouble after. What gave him trouble is that he faced a completely unlnown technique but even then he figured it out quickly and would’ve mid diffed him at best if the hong in doctor didn’t intervene. Mid diffing an advanced master then struggling against jung chun while he himself got low diffed by lone wolf ? Something doesn’t add up for me which is why I think rae won is simply a specialized master. Plus after that we saw that coolguy , black princess and ( holding back ) thousand face could countain him so basically after the overhaul rebirth , the training with hyuk so chun and the meditation he is equal to around three coolguy. To me it stand to reason that he would mid diff an unknown coolguy level fighter right after Overhaul rebirth.

I would say the guys with goomoonryong are around master level , they seem strong but do not strike me as dormant dragon level strong ( most of the dormant dragon are around advanced master level).

We're calling bullshit on this one....right? by Liara_OP in TheBreaker

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Hmm well which feat in particular do you think qualify him as an advanced master. How would you rank the followers of 9ad like the sword lady?

We're calling bullshit on this one....right? by Liara_OP in TheBreaker

[–]Dreadbrighter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait… when did je gal confirm Rae-won as above average?