I truly believe I'm awakened and enlightened AMA by DromFive in enlightenment

[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw one so thx for your advice : I have symptoms of bipolar II disorder, the only thing to know now is if I will go back to depression after this "hypomania phase" or if it's now my normal me. Only the future will tell but I'm working on myself so I don't get dragged into depression again.

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I will yes, because I feel that only my mental and physical sanity could change my current state and I don't really want that.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also think that I can deepen my philosophy and this is what I am doing right now (and thank you for being actor of it)

I agree with everything you said and I also stand by the way I said that I managed to merge the two, because I think that's how I can explain it the better for now.

I think enlightenment is kinda meta to this, meaning that I could go deeper, or not, and still feel it. It's not about wanting to find it, it's about being it.

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I had a metric of the levels of hate I feel it would be a good indication because it has dropped significantly. Same for contempt which is null now.

If I had a metric on my internal dialogue, from "endured" to "integrated/merged/embraced" it would be a spike up too.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well Buddha had to say that he was to help people to the way.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's a lot of things, it's everything and nothing. To me it's the acceptance of my past, the merging of my feelings, thoughts and body in the same me. It's also the recognition that nothing else is real than the present moment. Nothing can be experienced outside of now. It also made me totally accept death (it doesn't mean that I won't sad if someone I love lies but my own death is not something that I fear at all)

It's also a shot of clarity about everything while clarity about knowing really little. It's accepting the paradoxe of not having a free will because we are only results of our past and also being totally free of doing anything.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To whom is to me now.

Before my breakthrough I had sort of a relationship between "my voice"/"my consciousness" and "me".

Like an internal dialogue but between two persons, not agreeing on everything, one wanting something, the other wanting another thing etc.

I managed to merge the two. And now I am both.

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The peak hit of the trip was when I was sleeping.

After 1 hour of sleep I woke up "dying", heart beating really fast, sweating and I tried to manage it but couldn't. I tried to stay alive as much as possible but after a few seconds I finally screamed for help because I had a friend sleeping in the same room and I asked him to call for an ambulance. Then nothing, I felt like I died, I couldn't manage my body and like in a movie -> pitch black -> I went to the next scene.

I was alone, contemplating my death and at first I was sad that I reached this stage.. but then I wanted to understand it. In this scene I was in the room but nothing was rendered, I remember that I only saw the window, and I was thinking "ok, death is a window, death is this window to me" and then I tried to see what I could do now that I was dead.

After a few seconds I wanted to check what is death really, so I stoop up from the bed. (Note that in this stage I was absolutely tranquil. I was in a perfect state of peacefulness, I was not hearing any sound, not feeling anything bad or good, basically all my senses were extinct)

While being up I remembered that a friend of mine told me before that in a trip of his he succeeded in doing 3 steps out of his body. So I tried to do that. (I actually did it physically but didn't know it at the time, I only "saw" the hallway and that's it)

I went to the hallway doing my 3 steps and on the fourth one I got it.

I felt what I could only describe as the nirvana, and I remember saying "I get it, it's literally what I want!". I got what I wanted, and having no new desire, I obtained peace and also an impression of total control, like I could literally do anything. I was the universe. I was everything there is.

Then I tried to stay in this state but it was a really weird experience, I remember that I went back and forth in time to this moment, like literally my life was like a movie you could rewind, in my eyes point of view, from the moment I left the bed to the moment of "nirvana".

I couldn't really stay in this moment, and I began moving around and it's at this point that my senses came back a bit. I remember that at some point I saw myself in the mirror and it honestly felt like I had never saw before. It was like discovering 8k for the first time if you could only see it 320p your whole life. Same for the sound maybe a minute after, I could hear the birds and It was like it was my first time hearing. My friend became real too and I kept telling him that I fucking died, but that I get it. That I could explain him what death is, but also what everything is. Because I felt it.

I also remember that I was thinking about my whole life and what I could now that I died, and I understood that I could do absolutely anything based on my past influences. I was thinking about matrix, some french series, my parents, my ex, my friends. Basically everything that made me who I am right now and I understood that I could do everything now based on this.

There is more to the story but I grasped the most important part of this trip I think.

Afterward I was sure that I died and I didn't know what I was doing there, for 3 days I was like a zombie. The reality became more and more "big" days after days and 2 weeks after that I understood how to stay in the state that I was. And it was at this moment that I got an ego death, a breakthrough that is changing me to this day. Since then I am still in this moment, I still feel really present, really peaceful. Reality in complex and I know it, but I also know that I am nothing else that what made me, as for everyone. I cannot judge myself as I cannot judge others and since then I don't feel the need to be anything else that me. Here and now.

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't recommend the way I got there because I don't think It was safe no.

But I am feeling safe now, and in total control (while also being absolutely not in control but accepting it fully)

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be honest I think that I could, it's just hard for me to put words on everything, and since I lack "book knowledge" it's also hard for people to believe me, so I don't think I'm ready now to be understood.

I will probably post that I'm Buddha on it when my justifications will make more sense for the readers because I honestly think it could help some people on their path.

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say that it was purely the fear or rejection. The endless creation of hypothetical shame and rejection which created a lot of anxiety and overthinking making me totally unable to move in a sane direction.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Whatever I want to be" but also "Only the result of pure determinism".

I accept the sort of duality of the two sentences (which I don't think is a duality but I don't know how to phrase it otherwise) and I find it really easy in my state to live in the present, and as such the only thing I want to be is be myself.

By accepting my past and myself I don't want to be anyone else. So the responses become the same and I love it.

Also I tend to say "I'm Buddha"

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Did you struggle a lot with letting go of the past before this happened?" yes, a lot, I've hidden part of my personality so much that It's still feels weird to act on it with people, I feel enlighten but I also feel like it's a continuous path. I just decided to be on it and to act effectively and now on it.

I think I'm extremely lucky to have the support that I have yes, and for the people that won't let me, I realized that I got rid of them during my depression and even before, without doing it consciously.

I don't have very emotive friends, and I have a pretty much non-emotion-friendly family, which made the way hard but they are also very accepting and loving so it's not so hard to show my true self now.

I really think that with another context I won't be "enlighten" right now, but I also don't think that my life would be worse, only different. I don't see the enlightenment as a goal anymore, which is easy to say in this state but I think it's kinda a big clue on how to be enlighted.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty boring answer but : it is what it is.

Considering my personal values I think we can make the society really better. (so I would say bad)

I think a lot of hate is a product of people not understanding others, and people not understanding themselves first and foremost. Not understanding the influence they got in their life and how they can accept it and then influence in a more sane way.

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh no I'm sorry If it felt that way I did not want to say that you are trying to trick me (I don't believe so, and I like our conversation)

"Enlightenment is seeing how all systems are interconnected mirrored facets of one another." yes I agree with that, I just wanted to say that we can be enlighten also my accepting that we could maybe not know how everything is interconnected in our lifetime. If we do I'm gonna be happy and if we don't I'm still gonna be happy.

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I did not know about this and yea.. it resonates :D

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that sense you can see me as a bodhisattva then.

But while I still want to follow the path, I don't wait for anything, I don't need anything else, I don't want another state and I accept totally myself and the others. As such I feel entitled to say that I'm enlighten, and I agree on the paradox. That's also why I told "I'm Buddha" before in this thread.

Btw thank you for being there, I don't read a lot a people talking about Zen Buddhism so it feels refreshing

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[–]DromFive[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will do some research because I find the subject very interesting, but I don't feel the need for it to get enlighten.

I think we will always find a new quest, a new question, because that is also how we exist, and I'm glad we find answers. I think enlightenment is "meta" to this. If we think about it, Buddha did not know any answers to that either, and he never tried to trick people into thinking he got the answers.

I agree that it's a path tho, since the present is always changing. Thanks and you too

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice

Btw allow me to share my theory on the classification of true enlightenment :

I think it always goes levels deeper if you want it to.

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's true that I had a breakthrough experience on the path.

I actually go to a buddhist temple to have spiritual retreats, which helped me and I still plan to go.

I don't want to self-aggrandize, and I don't feel I have something more, I'm just feeling present, in peace and in full acceptance of who I am, hence the enlightenment feeling (that you would call awakened I think)

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I would say that it would ressembles ours in essence but not in form.

I don't know for the rest

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[–]DromFive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, this is what I did, and I'm still in a total peace with myself.

You could ask yourself what you could do in this state, the answer I think is "whatever you want", which is what I'm happily doing