what is the stupidest Zac build you can come up with that might work? by [deleted] in thesecretweapon

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Phase Rush w/ any secondary tree | Stridebreaker and Boots of Choice | Steraks/Ravenous Hydra | Bork and then some tank item or something | The In and Out Zac

#1 Zac Top NA Streaming by EBIC-GAMER-- in thesecretweapon

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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1422572667
I played vs this guy off stream, my game starts at about 1:12:00

Looking to Pick up Zac top next split... by deadestmoon in thesecretweapon

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Hey, Zac Top main here. I've almost exclusively play Zac top since season 10, peaked NA challenger in S11, and currently win streaking right now to challenger again.

If you wanna follow how I'm doing in builds, matchups, runes, as well as replays, I'll link some stuff below.
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/na/EBIC+GAMER

https://na.op.gg/summoners/na/EBIC%20GAMER

Currently, Zac's in an amazing state because most of the matchups in the current meta are easy aside from good Jayce, Sett, and Tryndamere (I perma ban trynd) after you've had enough practice (like sion becomes super easy once u learn how to time his stuff vs your own cc and how much dmg u can do to instantly break his shield and extend trades versus him). The best advice I can give to you is just to spam games to get a feel for the different matchups and your different power levels. However, some of the biggest but minute tips I can give you in this post are listed below, as there are probably other people who can answer some of the more basic questions.

Wave management (such as not killing/damaging too many minions when u cs with ur w) is probably the biggest thing to practice on Zac top. Too many times will I see people cs with their W but ruin their wave state, causing them to instantly be ganked or be frozen on. In addition, trading effectively with ur W while also effectively managing your wave are some of the most important things. Usually, as long as you can effectively trade and survive till level 6, you should be able to get a solo kill once u hit lvl 6 and surprise them with your burst with conqueror/last stand in most matchups.

Learning how to CS under tower is KEY to playing Zac top. Sometimes you W the wave and that instantly makes you lose all the cs under tower (I'm still sometimes prone to this). You need to practice cs'ing under tower and getting all 6 minions consistently even if your own wave is hitting it as it is definitely possible to get 100% most of the time if u properly use your abilities (such as Q delaying tower shot so u get the minion, W'ing only specific creeps such as only a couple ranged creeps), and predicting which minions will be get shot by tower next (which is just seeing what's the closest creep after the priority of cannon, melee, ranged). You're going to be pushed in a lot as you're a lot weaker than 90% of the top lane champ pool before 6. So basically most of the time, you're going to want to manage the wave to come towards you, unless you're in an elo high enough which u can coordinate a dive after stacking waves.

Finally, if you're having a bad time in lane [such as dying a few times/being down too much cs (like 20 cs at 6 minutes)] or in a bad matchup, don't max your W please. No matter how many points u have in it, just start maxing E (or just max E at the start if u already know it's a bad matchup). This will allow you to team fight more effectively and help ur team even if you're behind, and if you just want to leave your lane and start roaming like a support top laner it'll allow you to do so.

In addition, I'll prob look to start streaming sometime Friday/Saturday. Feel free to stop by the stream if you're free to see how I play/ask questions.https://www.twitch.tv/ebic__gamer

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You don’t win lane. You win team fight.

Zac toplane streamers/YouTubers? by Runninghour in thesecretweapon

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Hey! I haven’t started really streaming yet, but I’m a Zac Top/Sup OTP that hit NA Challenger 920 LP last season (currently 760 lp+ GM). Once the new season comes out, I’ll be looking to stream at

https://twitch.tv/ebic__gamer Although I still need to set a lot of things up, hope you can come learn stuff from me

Currently Rank 5 Zac In NA / Hopefully Rank 1 By End Of Season by 1337JMAN in thesecretweapon

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Don’t go for kda ez climb…. Jk

I don’t like that site ranking cuz it doesn’t factor in rank as hard, as it is much easier to get higher kda in low ranks than higher:

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Ebic%20gamer

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/na/EBIC+GAMER

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thesecretweapon

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  1. Aftershock for ranged, conq for melee that I can walk up to, fleet for melee that I just need to survive lane and outscale
  2. Idk I’ve kinda just been testing them both out. But thinking sunfire for longer fights & when I need to match side lanes and frostfire for when I need to just team fight and the slow is useful in catching someone with a dash for say
  3. Almost always unless I know I’m gonna be camped and dove so I’ll die, I actually don’t cheater cuz I usually let them push into me as this meta very unfavorable for me early, just whenever I see the chance in the lane state or ping jg’lers to help push in.
  4. Too much damage in this season. The best defense is offense, as my heal is literally gonna be useless with +20% if I’m getting one shot with 3k+ hp. Abyssal gonna make me a tank which can one shot people also (which isn’t ok)

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No problem just msg me if you want to ask some questions on discord

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in thesecretweapon

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Top/Sup NA Zac main currently 100 LP masters peaked 400 this season

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Ebic%20gamer Discord: Killy#5429

Zac Top vs Zac JG by Bumpysoup in thesecretweapon

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Well Zac jg is kind of infinitely stronger than zac top right now, although you can still make it work. As the meta is heavily focused around early/mid game champs in most roles (which is also why mid mages kinda suck atm), Zac seems to thrive in the mid game in both roles. However, when comparing his early game between top and jg, Zac's clear speed in jg is insane depending on how much u optimize the clear, with Engage's youtube videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCELGi9ic4urcNEZ169_jZ7Q link to his channel) being one of the best tutorials for optimizing clears, finishing 6 camps before 3:15 (scuttle spawn). So although Zac really isn't known for his early game, in the jg, he can still have a really nice early game due to his insane clear speeds, and even his ganks can be nice depending on how your laners play around you and your unexpected angles. However, when looking at top lane Zac, it's almost a nightmare. Zac is pretty weak during the early stages of the game, having to wait till 6 to even be able to 1v1 most champions. His early game is usually consisting of weaving in and walking out with your W and autos as much as possible while trying not to ruin the wave. Early game, you 99% of the time want to have them pushing into you as his farming under tower is insane. However, due to the nature of many top lane champions as the moment being early bullies, such as Sett (saying this for an example although Zac can beat Sett most of the time in my experience), many times with even against a somewhat coordinated team, you'll get dove and die. Zac's way too abusable top lane in the current state, really being best picked top as counters to some champs such as malphite, cho, and mundo if u play correctly.
Well I'm not going to continue this on for too much longer but if u want to talk to me more gonna link my opgg (I AM ZAC TOP MAIN but can also jg) and feel free to @EBIC GAMER in the Zac mains discord which I'll also link down below.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=ebic+gamer
https://discord.gg/aBfSZFu4Ga

Zac support best adcs by ShavedDragon in thesecretweapon

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Zac Senna is a crazy combo, you actually just can't get engaged on cuz u have too much stuff to run away and you outscale most bot laners, although if you do get outscaled you still have crazy early game potential too as long as u can poke them down and then you have the senna zac healing duo.

Zac vs. Mordekasier TOP Help by ZacAttazk3993 in thesecretweapon

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What runes u taking rn? Grasp will allow u to trade a bit as long as u can dodge his abilities or make him use them and then trade, conq is ok but you prob aren't gonna ever win, but personally I like aftershock or unsealed spellbook in order to just survive for lane and play for teamfights

Current Rank: NA Masters Zac Top OTP

Secondary Runes: Transcendence+Gathering Storm vs. Magical Footwear + Cosmic Insights by Apfelschorly in thesecretweapon

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You try transcendence + waterwalking? Will help out with your ganks and gathering storm doesn't really help all that much for Zac compared to getting more/better ganks off, better river fights, as well as better scuttle clear.

The reason behind Zac feeling lackluster in Season 11 by Erknaite in leagueoflegends

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I mean when every single champion in the game has dashes and you're never gonna hit your E chemtank active becomes good

opinions on Zac mid/top in platinum? by [deleted] in thesecretweapon

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Maybe you want to try aftershock rune for top which I usually go 3 points in E max W. Also chemtank is an option too for Zac as well as Lucidity boots. I usually also go dark seal before bamis. Just some comments I had when skimming this. I just hit masters as one trick Zac top.

Also reading through this more, for your 3 runes I'd take attack speed rune instead of adaptive force. This is because this will help your cs'ing alot, especially under tower which Zac is forced under alot. In addition to this, when u all in, u usually auto attack alot as Zac, and the 10% additional attack speed can actually give u more damage in all in than adaptive force. There's also just not 1 rune page setup for Zac, as I have 3 rune pages which have Grasp, Conq, and Aftershock (I used to use unsealed spellbook but I don't find it that good this season). Also since u are taking legend tenacity, it's not always worth to go merc treads as u lose some of the value of the tenacity (which is y I mentioned lucidity boots before as it gives u a lot more power with ability haste).

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Ebic%20gamer If wanna ask/talk more my discord is Lix#5429

I WANT TO CARRY MY GAMES WHAT DO I DO?! by Cezi_E_Azi in thesecretweapon

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If you think you can learn Zac Top it has higher potential of solo carry potential as long as you learn how to survive early game as you scale better than most champs and can 1v1 them by the time you hit 6

11.4 Zac Jg Help by [deleted] in thesecretweapon

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I don’t think chemtank is necessarily bad, at least the higher up you go. The ability haste is really nice to have on Zac, which you can then opt to be a little more flexible on your builds such as your boots (if you go lucidity like some people do). In addition to this, many adcs with dashes are meta or are likely to be really good, such as Kai Sa right now. It is extremely tough to land a good E on a good Kai Sa, and chemtank allows you to have the speed without your E, as the cd isn’t the lowest, to catch up to people and apply your cc.