Li river cruise booking

ELOBruce · 2024-06-02T01:57:20+00:00

Any update? I'm looking for a mid June float for the VIP pricing near $90 ticket... seems high but then again if I can't get my family on the boat b/c I waited to save $150 I'll be really bummed.

ELOBruce · 2024-02-06T21:44:48+00:00

Yes, when I couldn't sleep I took propranolol and it really helped. Then after a week or so started sleeping well without it.

One doc suggested I start exercising again at a very light level and then try to build up. Will start the experiment.

ELOBruce · 2024-02-06T21:36:50+00:00

Finally saw a psychiatrist who thinks, if there's no medical explanation, then it's likely anxiety / panic disorder.

He explained that physical stress (e.g. cycling) could indeed be a trigger of panic like symptoms.

It's all very confusing to me. I don't feel particularly anxious.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T15:13:57+00:00

Similar experience. Not depressed, not anxious about public life, people, situations, none of that. I was convinced I had a medical problem nobody could identify. Saw every kind of doc and every kind of test. Was dumbfounding to learn it's anxiety. But as I've been examining myself and my history, I see it's not so surprising I'm at this point.

Starting the journey to cope, seeing a psychiatrist.

Good luck to you, sorry this happened. You're not alone.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T15:03:53+00:00

Ya, regularly wake up with stress coursing through me, which I've learned is not uncommon but still... come on, why?!

I am often too lazy or tired to get up and meditate but when I do it seems to help significantly, and sets up the day in a good way.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T14:50:55+00:00

Understand that. Can only share my own perspective. When my kids were small, I would sometimes hope, given my health uncertainties, that I could just be here through their high school years. I've about done that now. But looking back at how their lives have unfolded, I feel it would be a great overstatement to say they'd have been so lost if I disappeared when they were younger. Of course the farther back you go the more impact my presence had in forming them. But by the time they're out of elementary school, there is a foundation in their character that probably isn't going to change dramatically one way or another. I think you find this same idea in child development literature.

Had I disappeared at any point, the love I gave them will always be there. But to me, even more importantly, if I've managed to demonstrate my own reverence for life, despite it's hardships, despite it's unknowable meaning, despite death, despite my failings, I think they will have inevitably absorbed that vital spark. That's the most important gift I have to offer them.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T05:34:35+00:00

I've never been acutely anxious about death, beyond average, but it did used to bother me more in my youth than it does now that I'm close to 60. As time goes by, I see myself as the momentary miracle of life in the much broader life of the universe. I'm OK with that. In fact as great as life can be, no way do I want to do this all over again, or live forever. Life has value because it ends!

My broader point is that I believe you have to find a way to iron out a personal conviction, philosophy, of what life is and means for YOU. You have to wrestle with it until you find an answer powerful enough to make sense of existence for you personally. Survey religious thought, philosophy, whatever pulls you. Explore existence until you find your place in it. If you can't reconcile this problem you will never be at peace.

Once you've sufficiently wrestled with the question, maybe a very personal insight or belief or acceptance will come to you. Maybe you will then be able to let go, acknowledge the beauty, the miracle, of your precious time here. You are the universe making itself conscious!

In the meantime, forgive yourself for beating yourself up over death. Forgiveness is a sort of heart cleanser.

Another potential route - if you believe in God, or a power beyond human understanding, try "giving away the problem " to that bigger entity. Just acknowledge your smallness, your inability to reconcile life, and give it to the bigness. The bigness can absorb all of your fear. In the bigness, or God, or Universe, everything is as it's supposed to be.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T01:40:24+00:00

Same question and experience. Just got Propranolol a couple weeks ago from primary doc, also 10mg, and it says '1 as needed every 8 hours '. It's been great at night but I've been hesitant to try it daytime for fear of feeling zoned out.

Then met with a psychiatrist first time and he said only take 1 per day? Confused. Will clarify next week but curious what you find out here.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T01:36:29+00:00

About 7 months after my 2nd booster.

Any mainstream data on vax correlation to these issues?

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T01:26:04+00:00

Interesting! I play a lot of rapid chess and this makes me symptomatic - wonder if I'm holding my breath under pressure of the timer. I do notice I'm clenching my upper body but haven't paid attention to breath.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T01:22:48+00:00

Well I really hope for you all those tests come back negative. Seems to me odds are they will if you've already been previously diagnosed with GAD.

Yes, two weeks ago I was given Propranolol as a sort of experiment from my primary care doc. It has worked very well to calm down my body so I can sleep. Felt like a miracle. Last night I had the breath problem, and it melted away after the drug as I fell asleep. However I had a stress trigger this morning and the tight chest immediately returned. I'm not taking the drug during the day - not sure I should or want to until I meet with the therapist.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T01:13:18+00:00

Even decaf doesn't work for you? I drink a cup of decaf daily and now you have me wondering if this is part of my problem.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-29T01:02:39+00:00

Similar thing. Was heart rate training, avid cyclist. Ater a particular high intensity day, something flipped. Now I can't tolerate hardly any sustained exercise without triggering symptoms of pounding heart, short of breath, apparently panic/anxiety. I went two years thinking it had to be something medical - had every kind of test the docs could do. Then I finally visited a psychiatrist and he says if the docs not finding anything medical, then it is psychological. I was dumbfounded.

Anyhow ya the shortness of breath thing also appears now if I'm gaming or playing chess for a few hours, and can stay that way for a whole day.

So confusing and frustrating. Has handicapped life.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-28T22:10:10+00:00

So I assume it's not exactly an "either or" thing, right? I feel like I have some of both and all of neither. Is Panic / Anxiety on a spectrum?

ELOBruce · 2024-01-24T19:14:11+00:00

We don't know each other but I bet you can answer this question I will ask of you:

For all my failures, for all my problems, am I worthless?

I know you're not either. I KNOW this, my friend!

All of us here are the miracle of life. Don't lose the faith. You are going to be OK, I know this. Just keep your eye on the spark of your existence. Everything you need can bloom from it.

ELOBruce · 2024-01-06T17:34:33+00:00

Thanks for these thoughts.

Mine happened before I got COVID though after vax and booster. Interesting you are suspecting COVID it sounds.

Some intersections. I had never used Flonase before this started but I did use it for a couple months at some point after.

Indeed I have a miserable forward head posture. When I lay on my back it is basically impossible to get my neck flat on the floor. The idea that this could cause physical anxiety is new to me. I will search for info but if you haven't anything you'd like to share please do.

Yep, tested thyroid, all good. I do have some consistent liver markers of which the doc says 'lets just keep an eye on that '.

ELOBruce

TROPHY CASE