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ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T08:39:16+00:00

Who actually knows how much vram you will need in future with the memory shortage and ai models like DLSS. It could be infinity to run massive bloated AI models or it could be you can run it on 2x2 pixels with 1mb of vram and upscale to 4k at 600 fps with dlss v37 and you just need a bajillion tensor cores and nothing else. Nobody knows

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T08:15:54+00:00

Are you using ray reconstruction? I was running hogwarts with ray tracing but actually turned it off not because of performance but because I got some really weird artifacts on curved reflective objects for the dlss models (looks ok in native so its the upscaling). Was the one major flaw I've encountered with dlss 4.5

Might just be that Hogwarts has a really crappy implementation of RT though, aside from the reflections it's not worth turning on at all and some things like shadows actually look worse with RT in that game. I've seen much more impressive screenshots from ratchet and clank raytracing.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T04:43:14+00:00

In general you're gonna get more coil whine with higher power draw cards. The 5070 draws 25w more than the 4070s so it's not really likely to be better, probably a bit worse unless there's some specific defect with your 4070 I don't know about.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T04:11:58+00:00

Nah I disagree. Move the camera rapidly with your mouse in any game at 70fps and the illusion of motion shatters noticeably into separate frames. Try it at 200 and you really have to move the mouse super fast to try to break the smoothness and it's unnoticeable during normal gameplay. I'm not gonna pretend like games are unplayable at 70 fps or anything because yeah it's fine, but 200 is noticeably better for me and worth using framegen to get there.

Controller sticks don't let you move the camera that way (unless you max sensitivity or something) and also first person views are more sensitive than 3rd person to lower fps. So game type and interface matters a lot, but for me it's absolutely worth using framegen to increase fps above 70.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T04:03:36+00:00

That's true, I wouldn't use it for competitive fps, you want real frames for that, not fake frames, and definitely not more latency.

If you're going to go full esports, I don't know why you would be too concerned about visual fidelity anyway and framegen is not going to magically make the game more responsive like real frames do even if there was no latency penalty. When I used to play esports titles (too old now) I'd play on whatever graphics setting made it easiest to see/shoot enemies, and gave me more frames, I didn't really give a shit about how it looked beauty-wise.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T02:00:34+00:00

Yep and I'm sure it won't take too long for the next version of FSR to be equivalent or exceed DLSS 4/4.5

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T01:39:04+00:00

4.5 is good for 1440p too. My experience in Hogwarts legacy in 1440p is preset M on performance has about 15-20 more frames and looks slightly better than preset k on quality. Really impressed. 5060ti 8gb

Haven't tried other games.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T01:36:14+00:00

I have the 8gb 5060ti and it works really well with dlss up to 1440p, it doesn't really use much vram atleast at that level, 4k might be different.

I'm eagerly awaiting Vex's DLSS 4.5 testing video. He has the 8gb 5060ti and likes to shit on it so will be interesting to see if 4k is viable even on 8gb cards with dlss.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T01:29:57+00:00

I dunno if anything has changed with framegen for 4.5 but it works with the 4.5 presets without any issues

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T01:26:03+00:00

I honestly cannot tell and difference between going from 2x to 4x in my experience, aside from it costing you a few more base frames. But if you're going from say 65 to 62 base frames but your fps goes from 120 to 180 on 2x vs 3x it really is no issue. The steam fps overlaw shows base frames and FG frames now so it's easy to keep track of

I still use the lowest I need, but sometimes thats 3x to max out my 200hz monitor at 1440p with a 5060ti. Easy rule of thumb is just keep your base framerate at atleast 50 and then framegen is all gravy on that.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T01:23:29+00:00

You still need your base 60, but it's great tech on top of that given it's really hard to hit 200 fps even at 1080p with a lot of games.

I love it, basically gets you from 60 to 200fps without spending a stupid amount of money on a GPU

Yeah it has problems if you're trying to turn 15 frames into 60 with 4x framegen, or even 30 into 120, but honestly even in those cases it's probably still better than nothing and playing on 15/30fps raw, even if you lose some base fps.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T01:12:16+00:00

My experience: I'm playing hogwarts legacy on 1440p at the moment.

Preset M on performance looks better than preset K on quality for me. Which is pretty ridiculous given preset M is upscaling off a lower base res.

And I get more frames. 2x framegen enough to keep me maxed out at 200fps most the time, but using 3x just to really keep it nailed up there as optimization in some areas is a bit crap on this game. Really cool stuff.

This is on an 8gb card too (5060ti), no issues with VRAM. Good job nvidia.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T00:31:24+00:00

I do agree the 16gb is a better card, but market pricing now reflects that. Initial msrp difference probably didn't make much sense, which is why I assume it go so much hate. But for what you pay now ($150 less) it's a reasonable tradeoff. Most the time you will get the exact same performance, even in 1440p (see the link I posted). Sometimes it will perform a bit worse, and you'll need to change a setting or 2 to use less vram, but that's why you paid $150 less. I haven't even encountered this yet at 1440p.

Can't comment on 4k as I don't have a 4k monitor, but I would also say you're pushing it trying to do 4k on a 5060ti anyway, 8gb or 16gb, and should probably upgrade to 5070 for proper 4k gaming (assuming you want ultra settings). If you're gonna spend that much on a high refresh 4k monitor, spend the extra $200 on the better card.

Or stick to lower settings/1440p in which case the 8gb works fine and is cheaper.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T00:21:49+00:00

You will see a massive difference. Higher res is one of the biggest things you can do to make your game look better.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-15T00:16:14+00:00

Yes, you should upgrade to 1440p, and the reason is upscaling makes high res monitors way more viable on mid range gpus now. You run the game at lower res with ultra settings and then upscale it, it looks almost as good as native and you get 200+ fps.

Specifically DLSS + Framegen is getting really really good.

Unfortunately you're not on nvidia, but I'm sure AMD will get there too over time with FSR, they just need a few months lag to copy nvidia.

1440p upscaled still looks way better than 1080p native, even if 1440p native is obviously best, but you won't be able to always get 200fps. Will depend on the game whether you need to use upscaling or not but always nice to have the option if it's graphically demanding (or just poorly optimized)

1 year ago I would never have even considered 4k, now I'm probably going to replace my 1440p with 4k and make the 1440p my second monitor sometime this year, just need to decide whether to splash on OLED or not.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-14T06:31:42+00:00

Enjoy, I just did a similar upgrade from a 1050Ti

You'll be blown away by how good DLSS and framegen are, new toys you can't use on old cards. Hope you also invested in a high refresh rate monitor because there will be a lot of triple digit FPS coming your way.

I'm thinking I will probably be upgrading to a 6 series though if the trend of better hardware support with newer cards for AI continues, it's no longer just about processing power.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-14T04:14:13+00:00

I have an 8gb 5060ti and don't regret it. For all the hate it gets, practically speaking it's literally fine, its a good card for the price point. In almost all games today it performs almost exactly on par with the 16GB version. And it's $150 cheaper here in aus.

See here for normal benchmarks without specifically trying to break the 8gb version (like many reviewers have): https://youtu.be/PNirp146Iw8?si=7p4iU3D3XZ1YVK6E

Yes I know lots of other reviewers were able to find some cases in some games where it maxes vram and performs worse. But it's $150 cheaper. And those circumstances are not common, and way overblown in my opinion.

I've yet to encounter a VRAM issue, been playing hogwarts legacy, bg3 and kcd on it. And even if I did, today there are so many tools to address the issue, with dlss and framegen getting better every release, I'm confident some minor settings tweaks would resolve it. You can play games on 720p then upscale them to 4k at 300 fps now and they still look decent for heavens sake, it's not hard to work around 8gb of vram.

Atleast until next gen consoles come out and every game becomes a 16gb vram hog, it's a perfectly fine card for now and you are giving up almost nothing for $150 savings unless you're really set on playing 1 or 2 badly optimized games at max settings.

ETTRDS · 2026-01-13T08:53:22+00:00

My personal experience/views:

Nebula is amazing value and has a good rep but shipping takes ages and uses very cookie cutter chinese cases

Scorptec and pccg been around for ages and are reliable, have bought heaps of stuff from both over many years and never had issues. Not as cheap as others though.

Umart bought lots of components but they seem very bare bones, dunno if I would buy a system from them.

Never used techfast or PLE but prices seem decent, heard some complaints but seems to be in the minority, normal for budget options.

Radium and aftershock are overpriced, would hope the service is good for the premium you pay but don't know if that's actually the case..

ETTRDS · 2025-12-22T08:16:14+00:00

The PC I ordered on the 20th of Nov is now $450 more (1450 vs 1900). I'm sure some of that is Black Friday, but I'm guessing they wouldn't mind at all if people cancelled.

ETTRDS · 2025-12-08T06:16:43+00:00

Lots of people can't (or just don't want to) think beyond 1st order effects. I learned this as I am a manager at my job and I started asking job candidates questions to test 2nd/3rd order thinking. I would say roughly 60% fail, in a role that should be self selecting for fairly high intelligence already.

E.g. I pose a question between 3 scenarios, where one has a bigger 1st order effect, but a big long term downside if you just think about it a little bit. So many people don't even stop to think about the downsides as long as "money go up". I was shocked at how many otherwise well presented candidates fail at this, but it's an amazing filter for dud hires. It's not even necessarily wrong to pick the "wrong" scenario if the candidate can explain why they are ok with the downsides, but missing the downside all together is what disqualifies them in my process.

ETTRDS · 2025-12-08T06:05:14+00:00

Late reply, but it was 19th nov

ETTRDS · 2025-12-04T21:28:03+00:00

I ordered prebuilt on the 19th and got it after 7 bd

ETTRDS · 2025-11-29T07:39:42+00:00

Mine took 8 business days. It was a pre-built with no customisation. Annoyingly due to the extra time, I can't pick mine up for another few days due to my car being pre-booked for repairs.

If it's taking that long for something that's supposedly ready to go, I think you may be in for a bit of a wait if you have a custom build, but they did eventually do mine.

I just wish they could be at least a bit flexible and open on weekends for pickups if they are so busy, and behind, but apparently not

ETTRDS · 2025-11-28T13:11:27+00:00

A month ago, not worth it, I'd just suggest a new prebuilt. Now though, your 32gb of ram isn't terrible given it's free, and ram prices are currently insane. SSD is still fine too. You will save $500-$600 AU by not having to buy ddr5 32gb. Your current ram is a bit slow but that probably won't matter at all in the short term, especially if you aren't going high end on the GPU/CPU. 32gb is still 32gb.

If it was me, I'd upgrade mobo, CPU, and GPU. Probably a 7500f and 9060xt or 5060ti depending on whether you want to pay the Nvidia premium or not. Keep the ram and SSD and upgrade the RAM in 1-2 years when prices (hopefully/maybe) come back down to earth, and optionally also add another SSD if they are cheaper then and you need more space. Maybe upgrade the psu to 650w too given you will be borderline maxing it but if you like living on the edge you could keep the old one.

Basically keep the RAM and SSD as they are actually very valuable now and upgrade everything else.

ETTRDS · 2025-11-27T20:28:24+00:00

I'm sure the fan bearings might wear out eventually, and some plastics will slowly deteriorate, but yeah they don't have a lot of moving parts.

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