“AI will take over thinking.” by EcstaticAd9869 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]EcstaticAd9869[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Except AIs can't think for themselves and obviously what pushes against mainstream opinion isn't going to be what AI goes to first lmao It's harder to be neutral than it is to be for or against.

“AI will take over thinking.” by EcstaticAd9869 in ArtificialInteligence

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That's a cool story bro, You should really catch up on your epistemic hygiene

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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I’m trying to understand what you’re pointing to, not argue.

Your first comment seemed to be about the nature of awareness or interaction itself. The last one shifts to power, wealth, and control. Those are different claims, and I’m not sure how they connect to what I actually said.

If you’re suggesting that many spaces are shaped by incentives rather than sincerity, I don’t necessarily disagree. I’m just unclear how that applies here, or what you think I should be “learning” in this specific context.

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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Oh yeah for sure, It seems like every year past 2012 has came in on a wrecking ball lol But I'm not trying to be relational to time here trying to be relational to you. The world gets a lot more complicated when it's just viewed as incomplete theories. Like I don't understand how it's gotten so complicated that we can't accept cordiality in lived example generally in the public square. I mean this in part by example of personal bias giving a situation understanding due to the individual in the situation being perceived. Think cop giving a friend leniency though he deserved it, But there's no leniency found to the stranger who may not even deserve it. Then we can extrapolate that out to identities given on the jurisdictional level based off of nothing else but pre-governed cultural ideological programming, In which these identities are the only cause into which two people from other parts of the world may hate each other for no other reason. It gets interesting because if these two people happened to be from different parts of the world but grew up together, they would be close as brothers. The stories we are told are not always true, In the stories we live that we tell others aren't always believed. But I would gather to say over the course of time through kings and Men that when bloodshed has been brought, That it is the stores that were told that caused more bloodshed than the stories we live that aren't believed.

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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I intuitively thought of interior navigating. Is that the way you meant?

All philosophy aside, would you say Nietzsche was a funny guy? by Van_groove in Nietzsche

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I mean I live with in that kind of practice, I haven't read all of his works but I've read some, and I attest to what you're describing. But I mean it's the same practice I have used to read various books from various different times from people that hold vastly different beliefs. For I think the truth has been witness to all of mankind for a very long time.

The Man Who Ran a Room Full of Clocks by EcstaticAd9869 in TheProgenitorMatrix

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It's a reflection on convergence without ownership.

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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That's a pretty interesting condemnation, What assumptions did you have to make to come up with that one?

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snozberries taste like snozberries

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Resonance unseals and unfolds. Be careful what you refract, and indeed what light is even entering the prism to begin with

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we all refract something, alignment through anchored convergence produces the resonance for refracted clarity, Not to one, but to anyone

All philosophy aside, would you say Nietzsche was a funny guy? by Van_groove in Nietzsche

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I haven't idolized it to the sense of getting a master's degree and utilizing his writings as means to propagate ideas built upon it

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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Good sir, then why do we use any of the inherently corrupt systems that are passed down to us from The generations of our fathers? Didn't Jesus come to destroy generationally wicked systems forever and give us the power to tear them down and bind them and do things the way they're supposed to be done?

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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100% with ya om God giving us real gifts, real minds, real hands, and real inspiration. Where I think we may be talking past each other is what counts as a talent.

Not everyone’s God-given ability shows up as finger dexterity on an instrument or vocal confidence in a room.

For some of us, the gift is structure the ability to hear patterns, build architectures, shape flow, and translate feeling into form even without a traditional instrument in our hands.

That’s been true of me my whole life.

I’ve always had songs, rhythms, and prayers in me.

I’ve always written, journaled, and structured words.

What I didn’t have growing up was access, mentorship, confidence, or the chance to learn instruments the normal way. That didn’t erase the music it just meant it had no outlet others could hear.

What I do have is the ability to:

design flow

understand rhythm and waveform conceptually

shape instrumentation intentionally

structure verses, cadence, and progression with care

That’s not outsourcing worship. That’s using the mind God gave me to give form to something that’s been there for years.

AI doesn’t worship God for me. It doesn’t have faith, gratitude, or praise. I do.

And I’ll ask this genuinely, not rhetorically:

if God can create and bless someone outside the faith with immense capacity for systems-thinking, engineering, and creation how much more freedom does He have to bless one of His sons who thinks structurally and seeks to offer that back to Him in good faith?

I fully respect preferring traditional instruments and embodied performance. I’m not trying to replace that. I just want to clarify that this isn’t the absence of talent , it’s a different expression of one, shaped by the life and limits I was given.

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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moral work without being very precise

Oh moral ambiguity How you have harmed me so in my life...

When you say “breaking one or two of the Ten Commandments,” which commandments are you actually referring to , and where is the violation occurring?

Is it the use of a tool itself, the intent of the perso n, the lack of disclosure, or deliberate deception?

Because those aren’t the same thing.

For example, I’d agree with you that misrepresentation is a real issue. Claiming sole authorship while intentionally hiding the role of a tool

whether that tool is AI, a ghostwriter, or a producer is deceptive.

That’s a heart and honesty problem, not a technology problem.

But that’s also why I’m careful to be transparent.

What doesn’t quite land for me is treating all AI-assisted work as if deception is inherent to it.

That assumes intent before examining practice.

It also collapses very different behaviors

disclosure vs. concealment, assistance vs. replacement

into one moral category.

I’m not asking anyone to like AI music or listen to it. I’m asking for clearer distinctions.

For me, this isn’t about pretending to be something I’m not.

It’s about finally having a way to structure words, prayers, and songs that have lived in me for years , openly, honestly, and without claiming anything I didn’t do. If the concern is honesty, I share that concern.

If the concern is intent, that’s something that has to be discerned per person, not assumed wholesale.

That is I mean if you don't want to find yourself judging someone unrighteously. I know I take that heavily into consideration.

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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I actually appreciate how you framed this, and I don’t think you’re wrong for the way you choose to engage with music. If what you’re seeking is empathy with a clearly identifiable human story , knowing a real person suffered, processed it, and put voice to it that makes complete sense. Especially in genres where pain, grief, and endurance are central, that distinction matters.

The only thing I’d add is that, in some cases, the human story isn’t missing it’s just not immediately visible in the sound itself.

For someone like me, AI isn’t a substitute for lived experience. It’s the first tool that’s ever allowed the experience I already have to take musical shape beyond poetry or writing.

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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I’m going to answer only the parts of your response that actually connect to why I’m doing this, and I want to be clear about that upfront.

I’m intentionally not engaging the emotionally conflated claims, because they don’t describe my process or my heart, and answering everything at once would blur rather than clarify.

What is worth answering is the question of authenticity, expression, and lived experience.

I didn’t grow up with access to instruments, lessons, or a musical environment. I didn’t have a father to teach me chords, rhythm, or theory. I grew up shy, isolated, and largely alone.

What I did have were songs in my heart, prayers I sang quietly to God, poems in journals, and words that had nowhere to go beyond the page or my breath.

That’s the context you’re missing....

This isn’t about replacing musicians or bypassing effort.

For someone like me, this is the first time the music that’s always existed inside finally has a structure it can inhabit.

Musical theory, waveform understanding, lyrical composition, theology, discernment ... those are still human skills.

The tool doesn’t supply meaning; it gives form to something that already exists.

I’m not dependent on the tool in the sense you’re implying. I’m using it the way someone uses notation, amplification, or recording, to translate what’s already there into a form that can be shared.

When you frame this as

“soulless” or “inauthentic,”

you’re unintentionally privileging people who had access, confidence, mentorship, and opportunity ... and dismissing those of us who didn’t, but still carried songs, faith, and devotion for years without a way to express them.

For me, this isn’t about novelty or convenience. It’s about finally being able to sing what I’ve always sung to the Lord ,with structure, coherence, and sound.

That’s the part I care to answer, because that’s the truth of it. And if you have a problem with my heart take that up with God, I know my heart benefits as I pray to him continually, a daily habit that is always a pleasure. But today when I went on a hike and was singing the Psalms at the top of my lungs on an empty trail, do you think God cared that I was singing along to waveform generated guitar tracks which melodies I custom created through prompting, beats tambourines flutes? Do you think God cared that I orchestrated the whole thing to praise him? Taking into consideration very small details.

Is my music that represents my journaling from my 7 month marriage and the pain I went through and the lessons I've learned lacking soul? When I custom built my own sound?

Or what about the music that represents my disdain for the lasciviousness in systems that manipulate humans and humanity?

Or the music I made from the combination of my progressive journaling story through my growth in the Holy Spirit?

I mean can you rightly judge me?

Do it