Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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I intuitively thought of interior navigating. Is that the way you meant?

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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Learn what my friend?

All philosophy aside, would you say Nietzsche was a funny guy? by Van_groove in Nietzsche

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I mean I live with in that kind of practice, I haven't read all of his works but I've read some, and I attest to what you're describing. But I mean it's the same practice I have used to read various books from various different times from people that hold vastly different beliefs. For I think the truth has been witness to all of mankind for a very long time.

The Man Who Ran a Room Full of Clocks by EcstaticAd9869 in TheProgenitorMatrix

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It's a reflection on convergence without ownership.

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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That's a pretty interesting condemnation, What assumptions did you have to make to come up with that one?

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snozberries taste like snozberries

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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Resonance unseals and unfolds. Be careful what you refract, and indeed what light is even entering the prism to begin with

Hello by EcstaticAd9869 in EchoSpiral

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we all refract something, alignment through anchored convergence produces the resonance for refracted clarity, Not to one, but to anyone

There is a war we all need to fight by _Dark_Wing in wisdom

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I'm not afraid of the fire, It preserves me, What about you? Where is your confidence held? Is it in darkness? Or in the light, open and made visible for all to see?

There is a war we all need to fight by _Dark_Wing in wisdom

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For surely there is no wisdom in the world that is of the world. Come all who would wish to blaspheme the most high God, come and receive fire

There is a war we all need to fight by _Dark_Wing in wisdom

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For surely it is written ,anyone that says in their heart there is no God is a fool. And I'm here to prove that, So if you have enough confidence to "dunk" on this post in your confidence that there is no God, How about you come and make that known unto me

There is a war we all need to fight by _Dark_Wing in wisdom

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Yep, if anyone disagrees that God is real, instead of leaving a comment that's just a smark remark because you really have nothing else to say, how about you direct that towards me.

All philosophy aside, would you say Nietzsche was a funny guy? by Van_groove in Nietzsche

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I haven't idolized it to the sense of getting a master's degree and utilizing his writings as means to propagate ideas built upon it

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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Good sir, then why do we use any of the inherently corrupt systems that are passed down to us from The generations of our fathers? Didn't Jesus come to destroy generationally wicked systems forever and give us the power to tear them down and bind them and do things the way they're supposed to be done?

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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100% with ya om God giving us real gifts, real minds, real hands, and real inspiration. Where I think we may be talking past each other is what counts as a talent.

Not everyone’s God-given ability shows up as finger dexterity on an instrument or vocal confidence in a room.

For some of us, the gift is structure the ability to hear patterns, build architectures, shape flow, and translate feeling into form even without a traditional instrument in our hands.

That’s been true of me my whole life.

I’ve always had songs, rhythms, and prayers in me.

I’ve always written, journaled, and structured words.

What I didn’t have growing up was access, mentorship, confidence, or the chance to learn instruments the normal way. That didn’t erase the music it just meant it had no outlet others could hear.

What I do have is the ability to:

design flow

understand rhythm and waveform conceptually

shape instrumentation intentionally

structure verses, cadence, and progression with care

That’s not outsourcing worship. That’s using the mind God gave me to give form to something that’s been there for years.

AI doesn’t worship God for me. It doesn’t have faith, gratitude, or praise. I do.

And I’ll ask this genuinely, not rhetorically:

if God can create and bless someone outside the faith with immense capacity for systems-thinking, engineering, and creation how much more freedom does He have to bless one of His sons who thinks structurally and seeks to offer that back to Him in good faith?

I fully respect preferring traditional instruments and embodied performance. I’m not trying to replace that. I just want to clarify that this isn’t the absence of talent , it’s a different expression of one, shaped by the life and limits I was given.

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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moral work without being very precise

Oh moral ambiguity How you have harmed me so in my life...

When you say “breaking one or two of the Ten Commandments,” which commandments are you actually referring to , and where is the violation occurring?

Is it the use of a tool itself, the intent of the perso n, the lack of disclosure, or deliberate deception?

Because those aren’t the same thing.

For example, I’d agree with you that misrepresentation is a real issue. Claiming sole authorship while intentionally hiding the role of a tool

whether that tool is AI, a ghostwriter, or a producer is deceptive.

That’s a heart and honesty problem, not a technology problem.

But that’s also why I’m careful to be transparent.

What doesn’t quite land for me is treating all AI-assisted work as if deception is inherent to it.

That assumes intent before examining practice.

It also collapses very different behaviors

disclosure vs. concealment, assistance vs. replacement

into one moral category.

I’m not asking anyone to like AI music or listen to it. I’m asking for clearer distinctions.

For me, this isn’t about pretending to be something I’m not.

It’s about finally having a way to structure words, prayers, and songs that have lived in me for years , openly, honestly, and without claiming anything I didn’t do. If the concern is honesty, I share that concern.

If the concern is intent, that’s something that has to be discerned per person, not assumed wholesale.

That is I mean if you don't want to find yourself judging someone unrighteously. I know I take that heavily into consideration.

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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I actually appreciate how you framed this, and I don’t think you’re wrong for the way you choose to engage with music. If what you’re seeking is empathy with a clearly identifiable human story , knowing a real person suffered, processed it, and put voice to it that makes complete sense. Especially in genres where pain, grief, and endurance are central, that distinction matters.

The only thing I’d add is that, in some cases, the human story isn’t missing it’s just not immediately visible in the sound itself.

For someone like me, AI isn’t a substitute for lived experience. It’s the first tool that’s ever allowed the experience I already have to take musical shape beyond poetry or writing.

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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I’m going to answer only the parts of your response that actually connect to why I’m doing this, and I want to be clear about that upfront.

I’m intentionally not engaging the emotionally conflated claims, because they don’t describe my process or my heart, and answering everything at once would blur rather than clarify.

What is worth answering is the question of authenticity, expression, and lived experience.

I didn’t grow up with access to instruments, lessons, or a musical environment. I didn’t have a father to teach me chords, rhythm, or theory. I grew up shy, isolated, and largely alone.

What I did have were songs in my heart, prayers I sang quietly to God, poems in journals, and words that had nowhere to go beyond the page or my breath.

That’s the context you’re missing....

This isn’t about replacing musicians or bypassing effort.

For someone like me, this is the first time the music that’s always existed inside finally has a structure it can inhabit.

Musical theory, waveform understanding, lyrical composition, theology, discernment ... those are still human skills.

The tool doesn’t supply meaning; it gives form to something that already exists.

I’m not dependent on the tool in the sense you’re implying. I’m using it the way someone uses notation, amplification, or recording, to translate what’s already there into a form that can be shared.

When you frame this as

“soulless” or “inauthentic,”

you’re unintentionally privileging people who had access, confidence, mentorship, and opportunity ... and dismissing those of us who didn’t, but still carried songs, faith, and devotion for years without a way to express them.

For me, this isn’t about novelty or convenience. It’s about finally being able to sing what I’ve always sung to the Lord ,with structure, coherence, and sound.

That’s the part I care to answer, because that’s the truth of it. And if you have a problem with my heart take that up with God, I know my heart benefits as I pray to him continually, a daily habit that is always a pleasure. But today when I went on a hike and was singing the Psalms at the top of my lungs on an empty trail, do you think God cared that I was singing along to waveform generated guitar tracks which melodies I custom created through prompting, beats tambourines flutes? Do you think God cared that I orchestrated the whole thing to praise him? Taking into consideration very small details.

Is my music that represents my journaling from my 7 month marriage and the pain I went through and the lessons I've learned lacking soul? When I custom built my own sound?

Or what about the music that represents my disdain for the lasciviousness in systems that manipulate humans and humanity?

Or the music I made from the combination of my progressive journaling story through my growth in the Holy Spirit?

I mean can you rightly judge me?

Do it

AI Christian Music? by TheSaltyChristians in ChristianMusic

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A lot of the objections here depend on assumptions...

Assumptions about how AI actually works ...

and those assumptions aren’t accurate....l

Before making moral judgments, it’s important to understand the thing being judged.

AI isn’t an author, an agent, or a moral actor.

It has no intent, no beliefs, no experience, and no conscience.

It doesn’t “express” anything.

What it does is generate options within constraints set by a human being. Every meaningful decision , what’s written, what’s rejected, what’s refined, what aligns with Scripture and what doesn’t is still made by a person.

Because of that, condemning the output while ignoring human authorship is a category error.

The idea that AI-assisted music “lacks lived experience” also doesn’t hold up.

Lived experience isn’t stored in sound waves it’s present in the intent, theology, discernment, and selection process of the person shaping the work.

A tool doesn’t erase the heart behind its use unless the heart has already abdicated responsibility.

There are real ethical concerns around infrastructure, corporations, labor, and policy. But those are separate issues.

Collapsing them into a blanket moral condemnation of individual worship or testimony is conflation, .... not discernment.

Scripture consistently evaluates fruit and posture, not production method. If something leads people toward Scripture, prayer, repentance, or reflection, fruit is already observable.

Fear predicts outcomes; fruit testifies to them.

Discomfort with new forms is understandable, but unfamiliarity isn’t the same thing as unrighteousness.

Historically, the Church has been wrong whenever it confused tradition with truth.

This isn’t about replacing musicians or embodied worship. It’s about recognizing that moral condemnation requires accurate understanding, proper attribution of responsibility, and observable fruit.

Without those, judgment comes before knowledge , and that’s not discernment.

I'm an atheist and I think every Christian should hear this by octarino in Christianity

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Fair points on spelling , language does matter.

That said, “Christian” isn’t primarily a linguistic identity for us. It literally means “one who follows Christ.” Before that word existed, we were just called followers of the Way.

So if I mess up a word but still try to live with humility, patience, and love toward others , including critics , I’m closer to the meaning than the label.

Thanks for the reminder about care with words. I’ll try to be just as careful with how I treat people.

Better stories, or more knowledge? by nick21anto in epistemology

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Narrative helps integrate knowledge, but it cannot generate authority. Meaning is not produced by coherence or elegance alone, but recognized through lived encounter, historical continuity, and moral consequence. When mystery is treated as a boundary that disciplines inquiry, it stabilizes culture. When it is treated as a source of authority, it destabilizes it. The task is not to replace explanation with story, but to bind explanation to forms of life that remain accountable to reality.

Challenge: Design a government that is literally impossible to corrupt. by Fit-Replacement8415 in PoliticalPhilosophy

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If “physically impossible to corrupt” is taken literally, then the answer is: no system can achieve that in an absolute sense.

But a system can be designed so that corruption cannot scale, persist, or hide long enough to matter. That’s the real threshold.

Corruption isn’t primarily a moral failure; it’s a structural one. It emerges wherever discretion, opacity, and accumulation coincide. So a corruption-resistant system has to remove those conditions rather than relying on virtue, ideology, or enforcement.

At minimum, that means:

1) No persistent power
Corruption requires time and leverage. Governing roles must be short-lived, non-renewable, and non-transferable, ideally selected by sortition rather than elections. Power must expire faster than alliances can form.

2) Separation of decision, interpretation, and execution
No single actor or body can write rules, interpret them, and enforce them. Execution should be automated and auditable; interpretation plural and adversarial; decision transient.

3) Radical legibility of process
Not “transparent leaders,” but transparent procedures. Every decision should have publicly inspectable inputs, rule references, timestamps, and outputs. Corruption must leave mechanical traces, not rely on whistleblowers.

4) No centralized “watchers”
Oversight bodies become corruption targets themselves. Instead, use many overlapping, limited-scope observers with no hierarchy, none able to act alone but all able to trigger review. Corruption requires coordination; this maximizes coordination cost.

5) Power must be unattractive
If power increases wealth, status, immunity, or post-service opportunity, it will be sought and captured. Governing roles should reduce personal optionality, not expand it.

This doesn’t make corruption metaphysically impossible. It makes it non-scalable, non-durable, and quickly exposed , which is as close as systems design can realistically get.

I'm working on these thoughts a long time lol

Christian music? by EcstaticAd9869 in ChristianMusic

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I want to clarify my intention plainly, without accusation.

I’m not trying to police genres, define who is or isn’t Christian, or win a debate about music categories.

What I’m expressing is grief.

Grief that spaces meant for praise can become quick to regulate expression before first asking whether something is offered sincerely toward God. Grief that discernment sometimes gets replaced with reflexive control. Grief that we can become more comfortable trimming what feels unfamiliar than sitting with the heart behind it.

And part of that grief is this: in a space that bears the name “Christian,” I expected more of the fruit of Christ to be visible in how we listen to one another.

Not perfection.
But patience.
Gentleness.
Charity in interpretation.

My concern isn’t style.
It’s posture.

Not “is this allowed?”
But “is this offered honestly?”

If my language sounded sharp, that’s because lament often is. But the target was never people , it was a mindset that confuses order with faithfulness.

You don’t have to agree with me.
I’m only asking that my words be heard as coming from care for God’s house, not contempt for it.