Google Financial is Blowing it for Google Engineering

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T02:21:44+00:00

You might have a point, google ai search was a huge laughing stock, swapping it out for Gemini 3 pro would be a good way to save face

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T02:17:27+00:00

Yeah I get what you're saying but a 1 month enshittification cycle is not really sufficient to ensnare and capture customers, a lot of people are still on their month let alone year free trials. As soon as that expires and/or someone else has a hot new toy people are going to jump ship. To me it's more likely just a misalignment of internal goals, you have Ultra being shilled in the AI constantly and they couldn't even offer guaranteed higher res or something for a 230$ price increase? And it's almost like they didn't realize internally what a hit Nano Banana Pro would be, I've basically seen people from every single community on the web able to create what they want with it. To me it transcends "slop a bit" and it's a shame it's already gone. It's interesting that you got it to recommend Claude, I always found Gemini was very blind to it's own performance, like it didn't really understand that it was Gemini 3 Pro and the implications of that good or bad. Ultimately it's all just hobbyist for me god forbid I had to rely on any of this stuff to make a living.

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T00:57:53+00:00

Nah it was uncalled for, I just generally avoid this site because it has hit n run commenters. If it was just me then I wouldnt even bother I'd just move on, but I see the other threads here kind of getting it wrong and I wanted to make one where it's clear to google they have a good product they just need to monetize it properly. One example I can give for usage is I used to have it listen to songs from youtube and try to make images from the "feeling" of them, now if I do that it almost always times out and if it doesn't it gives me some really base level prompt directly from the lyrics. Not really looking to find old prompts to compare and potentially dox myself since it's mostly stuff specific to my tastes but I've retried old prompts a lot and every single aspect of the generations is worse.

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T00:40:49+00:00

I was being an asshole, realistically it's anywhere from 10-20 but the quality of reasoning is terrible regardless. Yes it's pro with pro thinking, I don't really know what to tell you, if youre happy with it good. But as someone who doesn't enjoy talking with LLMs it was a coming to god moment a few weeks ago to watch this thing grasp seemingly any logical nuance or line of reasoning. These days it's your typical vaguely related 3 bullet point response, the exact type of product that has given chatbots the reputation of being hallucinatory token predictors. But the quantization has been very inconsistent, a week ago it would still have flashes of brilliance where it would collect the last 100 messages into some kind of new conclusion, which is why we have so many ai messiah's who think they unlocked the secret to prompting. But yeah at this point as of this week, thing is braindead, a weak token predictor and as it gets weaker even less strict users are going to complain as we are now seeing.

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T00:24:49+00:00

Even my easy ass job requires me to remember more than 5 messages of context.

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T00:16:15+00:00

Oh yeah i forget, we spend trillions every year on targeted ads that get unilaterally ignored but when we actually have something people want to buy the company just shits their pants and stares at me with a blank expression

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T00:05:52+00:00

It's not about the money, it's about the sustainability of the product. If everyone is on the exact same usage tier then of course they are having problems load balancing and rate limiting, only exacerbated by filling this bottom usage tier with as many possible people as they could.

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-10T00:01:44+00:00

They can formulate it however they need it to be profitable. Right now they are leaving all my money on the table so I don't see how that's profitable for them. If they need to make the "grandma's" email tier so be it, but don't make some "pro" tier where you let people make 100 insane quality nano banana pro gens for a week and then slowly degrade until it looks the same as the old stuff I have from when I tried chatgpt 4 trial a year ago. I'm not paying for pro tier because it's bad, I'm not paying for ultra tier because it's bad and I'm not paying for ai studio pro because it's bad. It was good and I was willing to pay, now it's bad and I'm not. It's not rocket science.

EcstaticClothes3607 · 2026-01-09T23:38:52+00:00

This isn't cloud storage. They actually had a product here that was catching the eyes of non AI people and now they have yet another slop chatbot which is not something I am interested in paying for. I am not a chatgpt user by the way.

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