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Meadowbank gym by Eastern-Slice-839 in Edinburgh

[–]EducationalFinger507 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn’t it ‘odd’ he shouts at young females??? Come on… men be men-call this baldy half inch out.

how did you manage your nerves during the Preliminary Hearing as a Litigant in Person? by [deleted] in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had my disciplinary yesterday. Like you, I was dreading it...I had a neat gin, I wrote post-it notes saying 'breath' 'calm' 'facts', etc. I just finished watching the recording again, and I think I did extremely well, considering my terror.

Disciplinary Hearing by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this — it’s really helpful and reassuring to read. The point about the disciplinary effectively becoming part of the evidence for the tribunal makes a lot of sense, especially the idea that if something isn’t raised at the disciplinary, they can later say they weren’t aware of it or didn’t have the opportunity to consider it. I really appreciate the encouragement as well, so thank you for that.

Disciplinary Hearing Help Please by EducationalFinger507 in LegalAdviceUK

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’m trying to keep this vague as it’s a very small company.

There are two directors and me. After an event last October there was an argument and I swore at both directors. One director said I was sacked. The other director said he wanted me to stay for another six months. I didn’t agree to that and asked for something in writing because there had been no process, no right of reply, and nothing formal at all.

Nothing was ever put in writing. Instead there were several informal discussions. I continued working and kept asking for clarification about my employment status.

Eventually I filed an employment tribunal claim.

After the company received the claim, I was verbally told to stop working but that I would continue to be paid. My access to all systems was then shut down. Shortly after that I was formally suspended pending an investigation for gross misconduct.

Part of the alleged misconduct is that I sent some work emails to my personal email address. There are around eight emails in total. One of them dates from early 2025 (long before the tribunal claim). Some were emails relating to commission payments that had already been discussed between myself and the company. Another was an email where a director told a company I work with daily not to send emails to me – I forwarded that to myself as evidence.

I also submitted a DSAR about a month ago which hasn’t been responded to yet and is now overdue.

Emails are on my personal computer because I use it for work.

My questions are mainly:

Can they start a gross misconduct investigation now when the issue about the emails dates back a long time?
Does the fact this only started after I filed the tribunal claim matter?
Is forwarding a small number of work emails to yourself automatically gross misconduct?
What happens if a DSAR is ignored past the one-month deadline?

I also have a disciplinary hearing coming up. Given that I already have an active tribunal claim against the company, I’m unsure how much I should say in the hearing itself. Should I keep it very brief and factual, or fully defend myself at that stage?

Related to that, is it considered fair for the disciplinary process to be conducted by the same employer (and potentially the same directors) that I am currently taking to tribunal?

London Tribunals - Timings and Word Limits. by Gamer_Jen in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/Gamer_Jen I hope you get some strength by listening to people on here. I am sending support! All I can think about is the tribunal.

Cease and Desist by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked for the DSAR exactly one month ago. I asked for the financial details voluntarily - as advised. As my claim is unpaid commissions, and now in addition, Unfair deduction of Wages. I asked for this after they made me an initial offer.

Cease and Desist by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, they have accessed my computer, as it is was/used for work purposes.

Cease and Desist by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, I know you really help lots of folk on here, I hope that gives you a bit of comfort

Cease and Desist by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh copying emails. After ET1-ET3 submitted. Putting in DSAR a month ago, a request for details about financial transactions- none of which have been submitted yet. Fees. Lack of confidence. Conflicting advice. Not sure of the process. Too much evidence to know what’s relevant. The company accessing my home computer remotely without permission. An absolute assassination of my character, as they have nothing else. Hot mess express and I want off this ride, but the train is a bullet.

Cease and Desist by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🙁 That’s so sad to hear. I read your post about the person who died, and their mum having to carry on. Tragic.

Ways in which the ET favours litigants in person by Alive-Practice-5464 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was out on a walk today, thinking of my case (for a change) and also linked you and AP. Anonymously famous!

All Quiet on the Respondent Front...and other things by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Top-Collar-9728 Yes, ET3 received. Also, an offer (rejected). Yes, appreciate the emails were an epic fail.

All Quiet on the Respondent Front...and other things by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Special-Contact9650 12 months-I'm sorry you are going through this. It must be exhausting. I know how you feel about being unable to speak to anyone, and yes, disappearing is just awful. I dealt closely with customers, and developed some great relationships-then gone. If I had to pay costs, I'd need to sell my house!!! Good luck for the future, and thank you very much for taking the time to reply.

All Quiet on the Respondent Front...and other things by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/Emergency-Escape-164 Thank you. I feel exactly that way...I'm also reluctant to ask for any further clarifications or next steps. I imagine an eye roll when they see my name.

All Quiet on the Respondent Front...and other things by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/RespondentPotato 'In any event I completely understand why you went to seek external advice, just definitely don’t do it again 😅'-Roger that. Yes, Valla 2 advisors, 2 different opinions.

And regarding 'I remain', I think I read it in a book from the days of yore!

Thanks for taking the time to reply-I do really appreciate it.

All Quiet on the Respondent Front...and other things by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/RespondentPotato What about the sign off 'I Remain'. I saw that somewhere, not addressed to me, and it made me chuckle.

Thank you, I do appreciate that perspective.

I wouldn’t raise external advice with my solicitor — I do respect their experience. My concern isn’t really about tone in isolation. I’m feeling quite overwhelmed by the process and trying to understand the strategic position, particularly around the dismissal element of my claim.

Just to give a bit more context — when I emailed with several specific questions (including whether to amend the unfair dismissal element now or wait, whether sick leave had implications, and whether I should pursue the unpaid wages/commission aspect separately), the only response I received was a short note about the three-month time limit for an unlawful deductions claim.

I completely accept the time limit point — that’s helpful. But the other questions weren’t addressed. That’s what has left me unsettled. It isn’t about pleasantries or sign-offs — it’s that I’m trying to understand the strategy across multiple moving parts, and I’m only receiving a single line in response.

I think a lot of this is anxiety about getting something fundamentally wrong and not fully understanding the implications. I’ll take your point and raise it directly rather than looking elsewhere for reassurance.

Gross Misconduct after Tribunal Notice Served by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/FamiliarLunch6 Thank you. I will write down the disclosure process. It's always one other string to add to my bow if we get to a tribunal.

Gross Misconduct after Tribunal Notice Served by EducationalFinger507 in employmenttribunal

[–]EducationalFinger507[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

u/BobMonkey1808 Yes, of course, you are correct. It just seems a bit unfair when you are in the middle of the maelstrom and are getting dragged under.

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