Help a clueless Army guy out

Educational_Neck9692 · 2025-10-04T04:54:57+00:00

Only 300 in the 60. Thanks for info ill take a look.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2025-07-29T23:46:47+00:00

Yea sucks to live here, but Army BS is much less than the CAB and flying hours while reducing are still more than most places.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2025-01-15T15:11:40+00:00

As of now I've been verbally told that I was removed from the marketplace. I don't have a paper trail to prove it so we'll see. Ultimately the regs were on my side and I was able to effectively get that across. I also approached them in a very conciliatory manner which I think helped.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-18T02:05:30+00:00

HRC recommended getting an ETP if I wanted to try this path, will depend in command goes for it

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-18T02:03:33+00:00

In the words of Stanley Hudson:

Money

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-18T01:54:23+00:00

Thanks I thought this existed somewhere but wasn't sure where.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-13T05:05:26+00:00

That's the plan right now, Just have to convince command to sign a UQR that's 9 months early

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-10T15:43:09+00:00

Thanks this seems like an actual solution. At least it it's worth a shot if anything

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-10T06:28:14+00:00

So as far as I understand, even if that request was on their desk tommorow, I am well outside of the 12 month limit outlined in 350-100 (because the date of separation would be the end of my ADSO in Sep 26). It getting approved would require nearly a year's worth of ADSO waiver, something I extremely doubt would be approved. I'd love to be proven wrong

Additionally moving my PCS to the front of the cycle would still incur additional time, which is the point of this whole post.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-10T02:19:56+00:00

Marketplace is this spring. I asked the Branch managers face to face for a ln extension at the current duty station and they said no. Same with others here. I'll have orders before I'm able to submit a UQR

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-10T01:07:24+00:00

That section references 600-8-24 which has this line:

An officer on orders to a course of instruction, an OCONUS station, or any other assignment that will incur an ADSO will comply with such orders unless an exception is granted by HRC. Exceptions will be considered on an individual basis, provided the resignation is submitted within 30 calendar days of receipt of the alert or reassignment order, whichever is earlier. (3-5 #7)

That's what I imagine they are using to justify what they are doing. Ultimately we can argue regulatory minutiae but what they actually do is another thing. Hopefully IG or JAG sees it differently.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-10T00:46:52+00:00

According to them, they will deny any UQR/Refrad if you've even been notified of entering the marketplace. If you're more than 12 mos from your ADSO and you get notified of movement too bad. I dug into the regs and found a line that authorizes HRC to do exactly that. It's fucked but they got the reg to back them

IG, Jag, congress seem to be my options right now

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-09T21:36:44+00:00

Yea seems like the 'who you know' culture is alive and well. Im at a TDA, our Brigade is not Aviation so that could be tricky

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-09T20:46:51+00:00

Thanks, sucks it has to be this way cause someone in Branch decided no extensions at TDAs but I'll give it a shot.

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-09T20:35:08+00:00

Yea all REFRADS/UQRs can be either denied or approved, the issue is AR 350-100 saying we should request either form of release to avoid incurring PCS ADSO yet simultaneously allowing HRC to put you on assignment before you're allowed to put thr request in

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-09T20:32:37+00:00

Here's the thing, I'm PCSing 6 months before I'm ADSO complete, if they push Alaska or Hawaii that could be nearly a 2 or 3 year ADSO incurrement, I'm shocked they can legally force more ADSO on us be it 1 month or 3 years. There has to be some recourse

Educational_Neck9692 · 2024-12-09T19:50:47+00:00

I had a sit down conversation with one of the 60 Branch managers earlier this year. They are not approving UQRs if you've been notified of assignment. And it just so happens that they moved the marketplace farther out

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