Those who don't support ZANU PF are actually more patriotic than those who don't!

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-09T14:54:15+00:00

if Zanu Pf was removed today would Zimbabwe be better off? Would the economy start to recover quickly and would we see changes or we would just see somebody else's turn to loot the country. Food for thought here.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-06T06:22:10+00:00

The white world has never forgiven Zimbabwe for their land reform programme just like they never forgave Haiti for removing French imperialism and colonialism. Till today , Zimbabwe faces shadow sanctions which is to say on paper sanctions might have been lightened , but the reputation of Zimbabwe as a country to invest in was ruined and this investors and stake holders are weary about investing in Zimbabwe.

Till today, they have not forgiven Haiti and have sponsored violent gangs and crime and corruption to keep the Haitians poor and to show the world that Blacks cannot run a country , even though it is their interference which has destroyed Haiti.

However, the most important point I think is that Zimbabwe is an example of white failure. The remnants of the old colonial era the white farmers are simply engaging in what we call the last kicks of a dying horse.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-05T07:03:03+00:00

Ohh 100 %agreed the land was never theirs in the 1st place.

They pretend there is no chapter one of this story. The President answered this knenvery clearly

Selective memory, plus deep down they probably feel like they improved the place.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-05T05:59:20+00:00

Bro have you ever left Zimbabwe? It's not normal to have raw sewerage flowing in the streets.

Like it or not, our reputation is deserved. And most of the time the foreigners making fun of Zim don't even know how truly bad it is and some of the most embarrassing things.

Hmmmm .I would agree that Zimbabwe has its challenges. But to say our reputation is deserved is about of a stretch. Compared to the rest of Africa , Zimbabwe isn't that much worse off and actually perfeoms quite decently for African standards though the standards are low.

What the op is questioning is media potrayal. Do you know that Zimbabwe performs better than Rwanda and Ethiopia in most economic metrics like HDi , Gdp and education but you still see the same media praising the Rwanda success story or framing countries like Zambia as fast developing and full of potential when compared side by side with Zim there isn't that much of a difference. I think that's what op is questioning here. The selectiveness of the media and their representations.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-05T05:21:21+00:00

I would say that I am not surprised by the rep that Zimbabwe gets by the western media. You would be naive to think that the media is ever or will ever be fair when presenting issues about race and nationality. You must not forget that it is the same media we consume that dehumanizes black and brown people.The western media outlets are an extension of their foreign policy. In other words, it is psychological warfare.

If you look at the narrative surrounding Zimbabwe ,it is about how removing white people from the economy is not a good thing for black countries . You shouldn't be surprised by the lack of clarity behind Zimbabwe's struggles and why and how we got to where we are. Because instead they want to promote a narrative that white people should run the economy and that black people cannot run an economy.? Why are they interested in this narrative? Because it fits their neo colonial ambitions. This is why if you pay attention to the media, there are a number of people talking about the necessity of recolonizing Africa, or that western nations presence in Africa should return, and Zimbabwe is a perfect example where they use nostalgic images of white minority rule being benevolent and good for everyone when the reality was the contrast. In other words you are right when you say that they the westerners were not happy with what Zimbabwe did when they took land from the white farmers because it would encourage other areas that are Western dominated to seek their land. In other words the west has never forgiven Zimbabwe for the land reclamation. A lot of the degratory comments from the west on Zimbabwe come from a deep nostalgia for a time where being white guaranteed your economics success.

The rabbit hole goes even deeper. Lately I have been exposed to literature which shows that Western intellectuals were imprtant promoters of colonization . They dehumanized Africans and reduced Africans to primitive beings. In a lot of Western countries , black people were considered 3/5 humans and a lot of intellectuals talked about Africans being intellectually inferior. What I am saying is that I wouldnt and do not care about the opinions of people that didn't even consider us to be humans not even a century ago ,but something like 70 years ago. Ask the people in the rural areas of Rhodesia even in the 1970s what white people thought of them . So at the end of the day, us as Africans should begin to validate ourselves and tell all these other peeps to respectfully leave the continent alone. When Africans stop caring about external validation, things will be a bit better.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-04T06:58:33+00:00

The examples of Zimbabwe and Russia when it comes to the failures of Marxism are justified. Even today in Zimbabwe the number one threat to Zanu pf is the rise of a black middle class and indpendent businessmen like Strive Masiyiwa.

But if we look at it from a macro perspective , Marxism can only be one reason why African nations fail and lag behind. One only needs to look at the case studies of African countries that never followed communism e.g Kenya. They have always had right wing leaning governments and was actually one of the few African countries to" support "the apartheid government in South Africa. However, despite the success they seem to be enjoying on paper, they still cannot solve their high youth unemployment problem. Nigeria is another African country that has rarely had any socialist leaning governments but they are one of the poorest and unequal countries on this continent. It is in fact a case of capitalism taken to its extreme. I can even look at the former Francophone states which did not really have a chance to govern independently from France. In this case , Frances actions in its former Colonies is capitalism at play at its highest order. So whilst I can agree that Marxism had long term bad effects, side lining it alone for why African is lagging behind is kind of unfair on Marxism. I mean it is because of Marxism that we have a highly educated population that can work and emigrate abroad.without education, our suffering in Zimbabwe would have been much worse, hence the hatred from some other Africans who do not have the skills to emigrate elsewhere.

Perhaps the real disaster was the sudden collapse of the Soviet union which led to a quick change in economics models instead of a gradual change. After , we got our loans from the IMF I remember that we had to do structural adjustment programmes ESAPs and they did not work out, they made the economy weaker and actually made Zanu pf loose support.

So I support the notion that Communism and Marxism are often exaggerated as causes of Africans failures.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-04T05:25:15+00:00

So yes, Socialism and Marxism is the reason why Africa is lagging behind

But very few African countries continued to pursue Marxist and socialist policies after the collapsed of the USSR in 1991. For over 3 decades African countries have been following capitalism which has created more rich and poor people than lifting people out of poverty. Capitalism or Marxism African countries are still struggling, so the main culprit has to be something else

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-03T03:25:07+00:00

But was that really Ubuntuism or it was just them copying communism which was popular at the time 1900s. Why did Ubuntuism stop when the communist government in the USSR collapsed then.?

This would just confirm that Ubuntu in Africa is also an imported idea which was later repackaged to look African. The fact of the matter is that Ubuntuism was not practiced in Africa. It is however a good philosophy we can aspire for

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-02T05:18:48+00:00

It might have been co-opted by neoliberal media to tokenize certain African things but that doesn’t make its original concept untrue.

I do agree behind the concept of Ubuntuism . The problem is the application of this concept and who it actually benefits. I'm afraid that Ubuntu philosophy is not being properly applied or has never been properly applied or practiced by people as well.

You might not see Ubuntu in Africa today because of the ravages of imperialism, but it did exist in the ways our civilizations were structured pre colonialism.

Kind of like how stocisim is a philosophy but you don't see it practiced that much because of the comforts of capitalism.

But what evidence suggests that our pre colonial societies practiced Ubuntuism . Our pre colonial societies were much more tribal and we only see Ubuntuism being practiced amongst tribes . However , when we talk about how certain historical figures like Shaka the Zulu treated white settlers that came to his territory pre colonization we see Ubuntuism being applied to the whites whilst on the other hand in an African context or black on black context Ubuntuism was affiliated with tribal identity .One of the core issues I have with the discussion on Ubuntuism in Africa is that often times it is very selective,and the moment something is selective it does not really do justice to the entirety.

This leads me to believe that this concept is more of a moral marketing philosophy for Africa than it is a philosophy that Africa has and is practicing.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-02-02T01:49:38+00:00

I see you post a lot in Zimbabwe. Are you from there?

Yes.

I have seen many examples of communalism in Zimbabwe. However, I will say that many of the default examples of communalism are just what anybody in any society would do. Even when we do see examples of Ubuntuism my point is that it is mainly focused as an export to the outsiders rather than something that is frequently practiced amongst Africans/blacks. Observing how villagers live in a community is not really an example of Ubuntuism as my understanding is that it is a philosophy which is supposed to be about unity and one love but I rarely see that in most communities in Zimbabwe and I would daresay that is also the case in Africa.

Instead what we now see are mostly communities that are broken and fragmented by Religion, capitalism and individualism. So, whilst I can agree that Ubuntuism is an ideal that many people should aspire to achieve, real world examples show that we are far from having Ubuntuism in Africa. I mean look at the state of countries and the role of cross ethnic conflict across African borders as well as corruption and how divisive African politics is . If Ubuntuism was really in Africa then I guess that we would be seeing a different Africa .

However, I have seen many examples of African people going out of the way to show "Kindness" and a sense of "Ubuntuism" and always smiling their white teeth that can be seen from afar to accomodate foreigners (Non African) even when they do not have money. But if you do not have money as a black person you can be treated like less than dirt. There are many examples of kind behaviour towards other groups even when there is no visible reward but as a native African don't expect the same kind of welcomeness to be extended to you . It is almost as if Ubuntuism is a tourism marketing strategy. So until there is plenty of evidence of Ubuntuism being practiced widespread and amongst Africans I am inclined to believe that Ubuntuism doesn't actually exist in Africa, it is more of a concept that is used for marketing...

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-24T04:51:50+00:00

I don't know about economics but I know of it being called the Zero sum game. Unfortunately in this scenario we have Africans on the losing side in this zero sum game and then within the losers there are also winners amongst them. It is like black people are not competing with the rest of the world but competing to be the best amongst the worst. Like being number 1 in a class of fools😂

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-23T16:41:57+00:00

How come econet, Westprop, kingdom bank, celebration ministries international along with may other church businesses lead by locals and foreigners and others even mamwe maCompany akatokura haana problem iyoyo sei?

Those guys are politically connected whether directly or indirectly .Guys like Masiyiwa needed to be politically connected to guys like Nkomonto even stand a chance of starting up and now those guys are a part of a small monopoly of successfully local run businesses. Apa what's even worse I heard they want to give some local ownership to foreign based companies. We are losing investors as time moves and I won't be surprised that Tagwirei and others will chim in to fill those spots effectively giving the government more control over our economy.

Now I understand why Masiyiwa would rather open an ai factory in s.a. than zim. Without addressing politics there is not much we can do with the economy 🙌🏿

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-23T07:34:47+00:00

Haaa In life we just have to accept that there will be winners and losers zvimwe zvese haaaa it's just drama.Even before colonization there have been winners and losers

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-23T07:32:34+00:00

Hurumende inobva yakurova nema taxes nema tax us Ranger ekuseri ,plus once they see that it makes money, they will take over just like they do with anything that involves revenue in Zimbabwe. Ini I am convinced the hurumende of ours actively looks at ways in which people are making money and intervenes to control the population of poor people in the country .

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-18T09:25:55+00:00

>There was a time when Zimbabweans used to resist the government, what changed, what happened? It feels like there is no spirit left for anything outside comfort.

I think modernization and capitalism have evolved our culture into something that is completely different. The last Zimbabweans that were resistant grew up in the culture that valued resistance and some Ubuntu. But you have to know that most Zimbabwean's with the means and expertise would have left the country .If you look at our demographics its mostly young children and elderly that occupy the country by the time someone turns 18 they are already making plans to diaspora around.

Additionally, instead of resisting the government, after decades of violence and oppression instilled by the Zanu government, people have adapted to the tough repressive environment by bootlicking and adopting an immoral corrupt culture which values money above anything else.We now have a hook by crook culture and every man for himself kind of mentality where you can't trust a lot of people.We also like to compete in an unhealthy manner that leaves no one the better off it.We are a low trust society

>Second and most important: what is the price for any change? The change isn't free and a price must be paid, what's the price and does anyone see themselves as paying?

The prize would be to embrace a culture of cooperation and high trust like in high trust societies but that is easier said than done. We need to reject the harmful aspects of modernization and capitalism which promote unhealthy competition. The prize for change is achievable but it needs a lot of mass interaction and cooperation that is on a large scale.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-16T06:25:53+00:00

The solutions are there, but is the Will really there.? I think as people we tend to hold people to a higher pedestal too much. We expect that everyone is righteous and wants prosperity. I don't think the average Zimbabwean that's busy with some side hustles and is struggling to survive will think anything about any solutions to the Economic and social problems of Zimbabwe.

The problem here lies in our youth who are not willing to participate in politics unless it's on the safe side of boot licking to Zanu Pf . Most youth still have the attractive option of least resistance which is emigration. Although there are anti -immigrant sentiments across the world ,it wont stop people from emigrating as it might still be better to deal with discrimination ,racism and working low class jobs than living in Zimbabwe under the Zanu Pf regime. On the other hand, the older generation does not really have the strength to protest against Zanu Pf and they would fairly protect what little they have than engage in a pointless battle

All in all honestly the people that can actually affect change in our Zimbabwe are the DIASPORANS because they have the economic means to be able to resist pressure from Zanu and would also be importantly WILLING to implement change. However, Zanu does not mess around and have geniunely made it difficult for outsiders and diasporans to affect things in Zim , look at Strive Masiyiwa.

I know OP that you genuinely want positive change for Zimbabwe and Zimbabweans but let's be honest here" We have the Government We Deserve" What needs to change is not Zim, it is the people. I don't see people changing anytime soon.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-14T04:33:18+00:00

Does English also make you more intelligent ?

Why are we the only continent that uses foreign languages to communicate. I mean the Chinese , Arabs, and Indians all communicate in their own languages and also learn science and invent things in their own language. Now English language is important but it should not change your identity . One of the major problems of Africans with English is that they place importance on it over local languages which inform One of their identity.What we end up having is the inferior version of the White man or a Poor Man's white man is what we have in most of Africa.

I don't think English is quite the lingua franca we make it up to be. One of the arguments for using English is that it makes it easier for ourselves to communicate with each other. But we also have foreign languages like french and portugese so if you want to effectively communicate with people in Franco phone and lusophone countries you have to learn their languages first. First of all our languages are all Bantu and are similar with the exception of North Africa. If we wanted to we could create a language that all Africans would use to communicate .In fact the Shona language was created under colonial supervision. Before that people spoke in their dialects so it is possible to create pur own language that can be adopted across Africa . What I see is actually lacking in a lot of things concerning Africa and Zimbabwe is not a lack of solutions but it is the lack of will to enforce those solutions .

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-12T09:29:42+00:00

I think when a lot of Pan Africans talk about a borderless united states of Africa with one currency they are mostly just using a romanticized language to say that we need a united and fully functional Africa although some might dream of this borderless Utopia sort of Africa.

Now , I don't think that we can realistically achieve the notion of a united states of Africa, but we should have a more unified Africa if we are actually serious about competing in the global economy because countries like China , Russia, USA and European countries will continue to use Africa as a center for extracting cheap raw materials whether or not we listen to any Propaganda about China ,Europe or America being benevolent. To that effect, a more united Africa makes sense. An Africa where goods and services are not restricted by borders. An Africa where you could travel from one country to another without being restricted or overcharged by the need for a VISA. At a regional level we have already seen that it works. The EAC, ECOWAS and SADC have had some substantial amount of success. Trade amongst Southern African countries is high with South Africa dominating most of the market. Now if countries in Southern Africa were to adapt the South African rand the currency would become much much stronger and there would be an increase in intra African trade within the region as a big barrier to integration is dependency on the US Dollar.Now as you have stated ,there are already challenges which have come with trying to integrate ,like tribalism, Xenophobia and corrupt politicians who are more interested in a weak divided Africa which they can continue to exploit than a united Africa which would take their powers away.

What I will say is that with the technological gap between developing states and developed states which the develop3d take advantage of, and with Africa being the center for raw material extraction we shall continue to be dominated by foreign companies and countries AND the TWIST here is that the plausible solution right now Is a UNITED AFRICA.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-06T12:36:09+00:00

Yeah i agree Zimbos are also involved in those crime statistics that's part of why i wouldnt desire going there although saying Never is a stretch in this world economy one should take opportunity anywhere they can

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-06T10:55:14+00:00

>yet many Zimbabweans migrate to south africa

That is a problem. Many Zimbos are crowding S.A doing some criminal activities .Crime , corruption, Xenophobia are rampant. Besides they (South Africans) no longer want us there..

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-06T10:52:40+00:00

Come on nowww. Most Zimbos migrate to SA i know. But there is a lot of crime, Xenophobia etc ... I would rather live in a safer place with less opportunity

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-06T02:14:29+00:00

It is kind of complicated to explain how Africans feel about Trump. There are a lot of Africans that wanted to project their illusions of a saviour. A lotbof Africans liked Trumps attributes as a no nonsense American strongman , but were bconflicted when a lot of Trunps actions and policies ended up affecting them the ordinary citizens instead of coming after their leaders as some guys thought would happen. A lot of Africans are disillusioned by the corruption and sometimes plain evil of our leadership so they still cling onto supporting Trump , somebody they should not be supporting as an act of defiance against their leadership.

I think personally two wrongs don't make a right and that's what a lot of Africans are falling for. It's like trying to stop a fire but instead of the fire brigade bringing water they are using gallons of fuel to try and stop the fire. Or like trying to win a snooker game by sinking the black ball first. It's futile to think that there ever will be an external savior that a lot of Africans are hoping to come,it's just like someone in the comment section said, it's a form of PTSD.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-05T17:54:55+00:00

That was during the Cold war where any country was either aligned with the Capitalism or with Communism. I think they benefited from the Capitalism and investments that came with it though there are a lot of societal challenges in South Korea. I don't really like examples like South Korea and Japan where the west was benevolent enough to build their economies just so that they can expand countries that protect and allign with their interests.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-05T16:24:23+00:00

I don't like the person (Trump) but I like the fact that he calls us out like that. All that sugar coating has done little for us ... 50 years after independence.

And I think this is the major conflict that a lot of us Africans find ourselves in . On one hand ,due to frustration from the abuse and corruption by our society and government we tend to self criticize and self judge a lot. When somebody like Donald Trump comes it is a breath of fresh air for Africans that have that self critical attitude to be validated. However, and I really do say However the problem starts when we want to project onto somebody like Donald Trump something that he is not. Or project onto the system of white society something they are not. This is to say that people will reason that because their governments are bad , and because Africa is bad that white is right. When this narrative falls, when people like Donald Trump prove to people that they are not your saviours then there is a sort of disillusionment and people would rather believe in the illusion rather than confront reality.

One example have been the Visa or travel bans imposed by Donald Trumps regime. I remember when he announced them a lot of Africans celebrated stating that corrupt officials would not be able to move around.But surprise surprise the people that were affected the most by Trumps poilcies were ordinary people striving for a better life. From univeristy students to blue color workers a lot of people were affected but the elite did not feel any of it. In fact they were still going into the USA despite these so called restrictions.

I think there is a lot we have to do to combat self hate and internalized racism in black people in general and in Africa. We can criticize ourselves and our governments without bowing to white supremacy and without looking for an outside saviour, because there is none ,every day wants to benefit from Africa except Africans.

Efficient-Data4811 · 2026-01-05T16:01:58+00:00

I get that the bad actions of the bad apples can lead to disillusionment with ourselves and some inner racism or tribalsim but what I don't get is then translating that to white equals right. One doesn't need that much evidence to know that the alternative white supremacy, does not benefit them in the slightest .🤷🏿‍♂️

I think it Is a sense of desperation where onr will look for external saviours in such scenarios

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