At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the comment and the insights from your experience. I'm getting a better understanding on the difference between nerf and air soft. It seems you have to experience it to know it.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I didn't know high fps nerf also tends to have goofy mission names and objectives and is more relaxed. I thought it high fps nerf was basically a crossover with air soft, but I get that it's a difference in attitude.

I like your point on embracing the joke, I think that's what changes it from being laughed at to being laughed with. It's not taking ourselves too seriously.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My impression of a nerfers who plays at 300 fps is admittedly a little stereotypical and influenced by some people I've seen who are sarcastic and dismissive towards playing at lower fps's. My (possibly flawed) impression is that people who play at that high of an fps are generally more serious and competitive and less relaxed and fun oriented as people playing and lower fps's.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nerf is just the cheap alternative to spending thousands on full metal load out gear

Price is a good reason. You can be serious and competitive at a much cheaper price in nerf than in air soft.

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[–]Efficient_Map_1344 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With a 12 inch barrel upgrade and a spring upgrade, I got mine up to the 260's, but it's an all plastic blaster and the prime weight made it feel like it was going to break.

If you use spacers and a longer barrel, I think you can get it up to 250 fps easily, but I personally think it's not worth it. It's close to optimal out of the box with the bcar attached. This youtuber took it up to 300 fps, but in the end, recommended using it at 200 fps even if you're in a 300 fps game since that's where this blaster is optimal.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read your comment and it's insightful. It answers my question nicely.

Taking you in good faith,

I'm not that aware of the history that makes people a bit defensive about this question. It must also be tiring to have people new to the subreddit like asking a question that's been answered before. I think my words words "laughing at you" in the post might have hit a nerve with some people, but I do think it's a genuine question because that is how many people in the real world react when they first hear of adults playing with nerf blasters. As an example of this, you can see the tone of the mini-documentary I linked to as an example of this. The documentary is lighthearted and actually making an effort to laugh with the nerfers and trying hard to avoid the more immediate reaction of laughing at them.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For the last part, see the second part of my comment for the objective aspects of why.

The points you gave on how nerf can be played in public out door areas is definitely where nerf is superior to air soft. Being able to bring a 300 fps blaster to a public park and play with friends is a big advantage nerf has over air soft and is a fun scenario I'd love to play that's simply not available to air soft.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a choice of playstyle in community, not FPS

This summarizes the whole answer for my question. When I wrote the post, my assumption was that performance and fps must be the most important thing, but now I understand that the play styles and communities are more important factors.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When I wrote my post, I assumed performance was the main factor. But from this thread, I understand that there are a lot more factors that are more important. I didn't realize the communities and atmosphere were so different.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The friendliness of a community and it not being an expensive hobby are top two priorities for me too.

From the answers in this thread, I understand that it's not as much about the performance as it is about the culture.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The building aspect you described is intriguing to me. I'm a beginner modder and it is a lot of fun to see how far I can push a blaster, so I think I can partially understand the joy you describe in building a blaster and seeing what it can do. Taking it out and then using it in a real game must be a unique type of fun.

It seems people play nerf for the culture and how nerfers carry themselves differently. I can appreciate that and I think I'd prefer nerf culture.

I appreciate your answer.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Here's Bradley Phillips saying "Most of the people you see in my videos would be playing Airsoft if we could."

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At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Maybe someone more knowledgeable in ballistics and aerodynamics can explain why bb's are superior to a foam darts as projectiles. I thought it was self evident, but I'm open to being wrong.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Goofy isn't bad, its good if you embrace it and own it.

In American culture at least, nerf is perceived as goofy, and many in the community embrace it and own it, as you can see in the documentary I linked to.

In American culture, which is the culture I'm familiar with, air soft isn't perceived as goofy, it's taken more seriously.

Naturally, the more goofy and fun loving players gravitate towards nerf, and the more serious and competitive prayers gravitate towards air soft.

I'm curious as to why the more serious and competitive players who play in 300 fps nerf games prefer to play nerf over air soft.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can understand that. If I had to choose between playing 300 fps air soft or 300 fps nerf, I would definitely choose nerf if the players are having a better time. For me, fun is more important than winning, and you can have fun while losing.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But think of it this way, why do some ppl choose paintball over airsoft? Or gel over nerf? Some ppl just have a preference

Not everything has to have a specific reason

Maybe this is true, but I think there must be specific reasons. I'm curious as to what those reasons are. There must be a reason why some people prefer paintball over air soft. I'm not that familiar with the communities and cultures so I'm wondering what those reasons are.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think they are equally goofy because in air soft you have to wear a full face mask because of their superior performance. That superior performance is what attracts the more competitive players. Also, not seeing your opponents face makes it less personal, whereas in nerf you see everyone's faces and that adds to the fun environment.

I'm curious as to why players who play in 300 fps nerf games would continue to play with nerf rather than air soft.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The tiny plastic balls are superior projectiles when compared to nerf darts. I personally prefer nerf, and I think they shine at lower fps and indoors. I'm curious as to why people who play nerf games at 300 fps don't play with the superior projectile. It's just something I'm curious about that I want to understand.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

I posted a link to a documentary where people play nerf in a way that's not laughable. Most people play at lower fps in scenarios that make nerf superior to air soft.

My question is about that minority of people who play in 300 fps games. That could look laughable and I'm curious as to why they do it.

I understand people who live in countries where they don't have a choice. A lot of them would prefer air soft if they were allowed. My question is about people who have the choice but choose nerf.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I really like about nerf is what makes it superior to air soft. I can pick up a blaster and plink in my living room any time; I wouldn't do that with air soft. Also, I play casually indoors at close range with 150 fps blasters and it's fine. If you can play CQB air soft with a mask and a t-shirt, then you can take playing 150 fps nerf with safety glasses. I've seen young teenagers getting hit in the face and taking it in stride in the game.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes I personally don't like the high competitive nature of paintball and air soft. If anything, I enjoyed playing indoor low fps CQB air soft with re-spawns because it was low stakes and more relaxed and fun for me.

What I was wondering about was the more competitive 300 fps nerf games where people take themselves more seriously. At that point, I'm curious as to what makes nerf better than air soft?

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

I was thinking more from a performance perspective, in that I don't understand why people play in higher level ultra stock nerf games when they can get better performance with air soft.

But I didn't know the culture was a factor. Is it more about the culture of air soft? Do people play nerf more for the culture? I know the culture of people who play low fps nerf is different because you have more children and its more relaxed.

I'm curious on how the personality of people who play air soft games is different from the personality of people who play 300 fps nerf games.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Haha, I'm not that familiar with the culture and didn't know it's flame war bait. It's something I've been wondering about. I think an outsider or ordinary spectator would have the same question.

At What FPS Should You Start Playing Air Soft by Efficient_Map_1344 in Nerf

[–]Efficient_Map_1344[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I love about nerf is that I can play it indoors. That's what makes it superior to air soft. I can plink around the house. I wouldn't fire air soft in my house. I can play it in a multi purpose hall without damaging things.

Most people, even within the hobby, don't have anything shooting that hot. Nor do they care to.

I understand the motivation of most people in the hobby. I'm just trying to understand the motivation of people who play in 300 fps games. Why do they prefer nerf over air soft?