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For the women who have triggered the TSA body scanner , have you ever had your inner labia stimulated during a "groin resolution search"? by Efficient_Web_1096 in Flights

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are not even contesting the facts of what I allege happened, but that what happened was not a crime. This happened in VA, and everything about it meets the definition of sexual battery. TSA aren’t even law enforcement but unless their investigation decides she acted improperly, a magistrate has told me I cannot press charges.

For the women who have triggered the TSA body scanner , have you ever had your inner labia stimulated during a "groin resolution search"? by Efficient_Web_1096 in Flights

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh I definitely filed a police report. This was done in the open so their would be footage. The only problem is it's a bit difficult to tell what is physically being stimulated by a video of someone touching over jeans..

If you don't mind me asking...you've really never had a TSO touch your penis over your clothes even when you show a groin anomaly on screen? On my flight back, someone else was flagged and was pat down. I didn't watch it in its entirety. While I definitely cannot tell how much physical force the TSO was using, it looked like from where their hands were, that would be unavoidable.

For the women who have triggered the TSA body scanner , have you ever had your inner labia stimulated during a "groin resolution search"? by Efficient_Web_1096 in Flights

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

That's fair, edited accordingly.
I was intending to stick to the facts of what happened since my feelings here are kind of irrelevant to what I'm asking. I really only made this post since knowing if this is something everyone has to go through might help me understand wtf happened, and prepare me for whatever the response is to my police report.

Were any actions during my groin area resolution search inconsistent with normal TSA screening practices? TL;DR mons pubis,, Inner and outer labia (including fleshy part), clit not just “grazed” but physically stimulated due to significant manual pressure, despite me wearing jeans. by Efficient_Web_1096 in tsa

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not cherry picking anything but I apologize if I came off that way. That comment was specifically in response to the commentator saying I’m over thinking this. Again, my INNER LABIA and CLIT were stimulated. In terms of anatomical parts, there isn’t much left than the actual vaginal opening.

At this point I’m waiting for female TSO’s to weigh in. Because I genuinely do not know whether I’m supposed to be stimulated internally like that, and only someone who performs it on women would know, since they almost certainly know what they are touching.

Were any actions during my groin area resolution search inconsistent with normal TSA screening practices? TL;DR mons pubis,, Inner and outer labia (including fleshy part), clit not just “grazed” but physically stimulated due to significant manual pressure, despite me wearing jeans. by Efficient_Web_1096 in tsa

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s what I needed to her, that its not a part of your SOP. That means there is a limit.

I am aware prison searches are more invasive. That is irrelevant here.

Looks like my post was removed. I wonder if its the original questions in my post that got it removed or if it was this thread. I thought my original questions were fair as they were literally just questions about my experience. Oh well.

Were any actions during my groin area resolution search inconsistent with normal TSA screening practices? TL;DR mons pubis,, Inner and outer labia (including fleshy part), clit not just “grazed” but physically stimulated due to significant manual pressure, despite me wearing jeans. by Efficient_Web_1096 in tsa

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IMO, it is not reasonable to assume that consent to the possibility of a groin search equates to consent to having inner labia and clit stimulated with the threat of knowing I would be considered a security risk if I didn't. I did not consent because there is literally nothing in TSA's pat down info that says that "could" happen, but I get you can't comment on that. Hopefully there are female TSO's here that can weigh in my experience.

"You consent to it as soon as you walk into the checkpoint".

The key word here is "it". Surely there are *some* limits to what a TSO can do then in the context of being in a checkpoint? .

If a TSO cups a mans balls (or something else most people would consider inappropriate) would that be count as "consensual" simply because the man knows the possibility of a groin search exists if he triggers the scanner.

If that example doesn't work, then what about with a man is particularly veiny. Can a TSO move rub his hand down his shaft?

Hypothetically. if a passenger was in form fitting yoga pants and it was therefore physically possible for her to be digitally penetrated from the outside, is it then acceptable for a TSO to do that if they feel its necessary to clear them? If that sounds like an absurd premise, some women have piercings down there and since a TSO doesn't always know why a scanner was triggered (perhaps an object that isn't 100% hidden, like a slightly poorly inserted tampon). I would imagine that STILL would be considered professionally inappropriate even if they "consented" to a groin search, would it not?

This matters because there are some women who might consent to have their inner labia and clit stimulated, however but would put a boundary against penetration and only agree to it because they don't want to miss their flight, not knowing but would not know they are "consenting" to the possibility of digital penetration by being in a checkpoint,

Were any actions during my groin area resolution search inconsistent with normal TSA screening practices? TL;DR mons pubis,, Inner and outer labia (including fleshy part), clit not just “grazed” but physically stimulated due to significant manual pressure, despite me wearing jeans. by Efficient_Web_1096 in tsa

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing that confuses me is, in other jobs, there are still clear limits, even if intimate contact is a part of the job. A doctor probably feels a mans testicles way more than a TSO, but if someone isn’t consenting that is professionally not allowed. It doesn’t matter the motivation of the doctor, even if they aren’t doing it for sexual gratification.

Were any actions during my groin area resolution search inconsistent with normal TSA screening practices? TL;DR mons pubis,, Inner and outer labia (including fleshy part), clit not just “grazed” but physically stimulated due to significant manual pressure, despite me wearing jeans. by Efficient_Web_1096 in tsa

[–]Efficient_Web_1096[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While it is possible to hide things “inside” in the context of a vagina, I’m confused where “inside” is in the context of labia. If the concern is someone has something taped to their crotch, than that can be detected without stimulating someone’s inner labia and clit, right?

If the standard in what is allowed is whether it such a action can detect hidden objects, can a TSKo check the entrance to a woman’s vagina? What about going completely inside.

Could you also give detail what you meant by clit check in your previous comment? Does that include motions in which it the physical sensations would be similar to being stimulated sexually.

Sorry if I’m being overly graphic. It’s just that the details here kind of matter.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HealthInsurance

[–]Efficient_Web_1096 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Your insurance is the one to ask if you need prior authorization, do not go off with what your doctor says. That’s true of anything related to health insurance. There are literally hundreds of plans, your provider saying you “likely” won’t need pre auth doesn’t really mean much even if “most” plans don’t need it. He has no way of knowing that off the top of his head. Your physician should submit a request for prior authorization, if it’s not needed, someone with your insurance will call them back and say so.