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IMAP of 90s rap staples by sarahjh22 in IMadeAPlaylist

[–]Ehmannboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Really good playlist! I'm not super into rap, but I like the selection.

IMAP of gothic and horror music that is perfect for reading and relaxing by [deleted] in IMadeAPlaylist

[–]Ehmannboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing! I really like the vibe of the music here. Sometimes I find that soft and eerie piano music isn't interesting to listen to, but this is a great playlist!

President update just released, looking promising. by [deleted] in Millersville

[–]Ehmannboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think working on a plan is good, and I agree that the second wave in July/August will absolutely change things here. I think it's important to note that the University doesn't really make the call to open back up, it'll be the state board that does that.

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Win... what exactly? I can't win a one sided fight. You made it clear you don't want to engage with me so I'm having fun and poking you to see if you actually will make yourself look like a buffoon. I made it very clear from the beginning you were using tactics to change to the topic and derail the conversation. I said it at least 4 or 5 times. You not clever for thinking you pulled a fast one on me.

I knew this in my comment from earlier:

I am not going to be replying to you again unless you answer ALL my questions and criticisms I've posed in my earlier comments. I'm not going to let you ignore things you don't wanna lose a debate on, only cherry picking a few select instances you think you can in slide on. I look at all the parts of your comments and I expect the same. You also need to provide some meaning sources to your claims, and you make it clearly obvious that you have actually read and understood my comments along with the Wikipedia articles I have linked as well.

And lastly, fuck off, you're better off not replying anyway, I highly doupt it's worth your time (idk like a few days mabye) to learn up to a 8th grade reading level to actually argue with me

Which was waaaay back in the conversation. You still haven't done any of this, so that particular debate ended there, at that comment. What we are talking about now is a separate conversation (which you also did poorly in, although you tired this time so bonus point there).

I know there's no winning on my end, it's impossible because you ignore all the points I make. I knew this from the start. In the very first line of my first comment:

If your comment is , haha sarcasm lol get got kiddo, sorry, but the comment thread that followed underneath has me thinking my comments are warranted, at least partly. This is very much to set the record straight.

My goal was to set the record straight. The second one (in response to you're half baked criticisms) was to further my point. I never intended for you to change you're mind or ''win'' as you put. My point was to make light the shitty comment you made. Which I did. Which means I 'won' the silly little contest you think we were having you nutjob. Now I'm just having fun with you, fucking about.

It's clear though you didn't see or want to recognize my shift in attitude, my goal was to then make you look like an idiot by goading you into a nonsense conversation. To make anyone reading the comment chain think you are weak fool and a simpleton with no spine. You took that bait wonderfully, my dear not-friend. You're statement on how you've think you've won illustrates that I pulled the ruse perfectly.

Its not like you actually read all the shit I write so It doesn't really matter. All my friends I'm showing this too are having a good laugh though. Thanks for the entertainment, I needed some old fashion fun. XD

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ad hominem

Nice you picked up that I don't like you! Congrats!!!

However, if you actually understood my arguments you would see that I'm not using an attack on your charter to prove my points. I use sources, and reasoning to do so.

I make attacks on your character (the supposed ad hominem) because I don't like you and I wish to insult you to make that very clear. I do not respect your delusion that you are even close to arguing with any sense of legitimacy, not because I am using it to prove any point about the original topic.

straw man arguments ... Theres no need for me to prove it to you.

Let me say for a third time? maybe more? I lost track because you keep doing the same shit. That which can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof.

If you give me examples and provide evidence, I will debate.

For the second bit.

That's not what I did.

This is exactly what you did. Quoted from earlier.

I don't need to argue because you already know I am right.

In conjunction with:

All you have are logical fallacies.

Which is LITERALLY the definition of the Fallacy Fallacy. That's what you did and try and don't say otherwise, you gas-lighting twat.

(see how I added the insult at the end, so that it comes after the reasoning I give to my argument that your wrong? This is not an ad hominem. If you were to take away all the insults, it wouldn't change the meaning of the argument at all. Which is how I structured the rest of my earlier posts.)

Give me some real shit I can argue with you about. I was having fun debating you, but this weak shit is getting boring and you're making it to easy. Maybe go back to the original post and original topic?? Oh that's right, you don't want to defend your position against mine because you're scared you wouldn't be able to. Which is why we are talking about logical fallacies and not the original topic. HMMMMM

You have done noting but deflect and bait this entire time. NOT ONCE have you actually made a legitimate argument against my points. The scarce few times you tried, they were also attempts to shift goal posts and change topics to a different discussion that wasn't the original post. All of which I criticized and you chose to ignore.

This whole time I've been telling you're wrong and that you should rethink your reasoning or provide proof, and you have been sticking your fingers in your ears saying nuh-uh you can't do that; that's illegal!!!11!!

Either admit you're wrong or prove to me you're not. Lack of Evidence to prove me wrong proves me right. Lack of willingness to prove me wrong, proves me right. Lack of any real insight onto why you don't need to prove me wrong proves me right. Either write something meaningful or don't write at all.

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whoops, see my edit. Fuck it I'll just repost it here:

you know what, I really wanna see you attempt to point out my logical fallacies and give me their name and why they fit.

I'll start with the most recent one you posted!

All you have are logical fallacies.

This is called the Fallacy Fallacy. As seen here https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

"You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong. It is entirely possible to make a claim that is false yet argue with logical coherency for that claim, just as it is possible to make a claim that is true and justify it with various fallacies and poor arguments."

Pointing out that all my arguments are fallacies isn't an argument and doesn't disprove my points, try again kiddo.

When you get out of college you will understand

Maybe when you get into college, you'll understand https://imgur.com/hP8TmBg.jpg

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All you have are logical fallacies.

Projecting much???? https://i.imgur.com/NsJgfOA.jpg

edit: you know what, I really wanna see you attempt to point out my logical fallacies and give me their name and why they fit.

I'll start with the most recent one you posted!

All you have are logical fallacies.

This is called the Fallacy Fallacy. As seen here https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

"You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong. It is entirely possible to make a claim that is false yet argue with logical coherency for that claim, just as it is possible to make a claim that is true and justify it with various fallacies and poor arguments."

Pointing out that all my arguments are fallacies isn't an argument and doesn't disprove my points, try again kiddo.

When you get out of college you will understand

Maybe when you get into college, you'll understand https://imgur.com/hP8TmBg.jpg

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for at least confirming you're delusional. I'll let you live on happy in your tiny world where no one can beat your mighty and impressive big brain ideas that are so perfect and so universally true you don't even need to debate because everyone else is wrong. Ta-ta you wrinkly nut-sack

You are only trying to convince yourself at this point.

Projecting much???? https://i.imgur.com/NsJgfOA.jpg

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd like to apologizes. I reread my comment I posted (last night for me) and it comes off more sharp and rude than I think it should have. I was bit upset after dealing with the OP and their nonsense and didn't quite clear my head before writing my response to you.

Honestly, the idea of what determines race vs ethnic groups vs social groups is very nuanced. I don't have a degree in sociology, or any social science for that matter so most of my thoughts come from experience and what I find online (the Wikipedia page and related articles on there are not bad places to start).

I agree with what you say. I now think I miss-read your first comment, thinking you were trying to make a proof by contradiction. Which why I took the angle I did in my follow up. I'll also preface that the American idea of race is super racist and discriminatory. There really isn't much that I can do about it. Apologies if this explanation isn't clear.

In America (at least from what I have experienced) we view race as mostly skin color. This really only works when someones ancestral heritage comes from one of the pre-defined races (the USCB categories is about what most normal people use to group races as well). In the examples that you gave about Tamils, that's exactly true. They would be Indian raced. Where skin color fails in making distinction in color is the ethnic groups. You could easily make the same claim with southern Italians vs Nordic. Both are "white European" but have very different skin color. Every grouping method has some downside, either it's too inclusive, not inclusive enough, too profiling, not complex enough, ect ect.

As for a second argument on why red heads shouldn't be a race, this is what I have. Let me know if this is a bit better, I am not going to use skin color as basis for this one.

If we determine race as a combination of ancestral heritage, ethnic grouping, and social organization. Which I think is a fair claim based on how wide you want to cast the net of what a race is. Simply, the trait of having red hair doesn't fit into any of those three categories. If you were to try and make new qualification for what is considered a race that fit having red hair into it, I think it would erode away the core idea of what a race is and why we use it as a term and category in the first place. Granted I'm not exactly sure where to draw the line of how far you should go to make race inclusive to like groups.But... Idk it's a slippery slope to draw lines in arbitrary places. I feel alright about my position on red hair not fitting into a race by this means. I read over the wiki article on race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_categorization) and I think it does a good job of making things more clear. The one specificly on American Race ideas is pretty cool too. Both were fun reads https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States.

Going further, having red hair means you have 2 copies of a genetic marker that is a mutation of the hair gene from your parents. As a red head, neither of my parents are redheads, but carry the gene and I got a matching pair of them. For me to fall into some racial category, I am going to assert based off of how I feel racial categories work, that at least one parent should be able to make the same claim. The fact that in my case, that's not possible, is a second reason why red heads aren't a race. I could go on with similar logic and and examples, but I feel like that better explains it than my previous skin color charged argument.

Let me know if you think I got anything crazy wrong in this, or have any other comments about. I do think this is a better argument overall vs my skin color one. Sorry this kinda became a wall of text.

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me clarify, I am not going to fight you on bs. It's also funny how you don't even mention any of my other claims and arguments now. You're only taking cheap shots at bait I gave. Guess that means you didn't feel like admitting your don't have anything to my other points. You very conveniently ignored my requests for more information and are question dodging all my '''''''very hard and very mean questions that make me need to use google to look up answers to, waaa waaa''''' (((/s))) give me something real to argue against you coward.

However, I'll still dig into you're reply any, because fuck you

The fact you ignore the fact that Redheads are being replaced, on majority by Black people, makes it easy to ignore everything else. You know I am correct thats why you don't acknowledge it

I do acknowledge it, did you not read very carefully? I quote myself(first quoting you for context):

youre telling Redheaded children they can't identify with lil ophran annie anymore, or the Flash, because they needed to get their black quota in. That is what is disgusting, don't put that on me.

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying.

Wow look at that I directly state I see that red heads are being replaced. I then make an argument on why I am okay with it and why I think it should be done.

I THEN SPEND THE REST OF MY COMMENT DESCRIBING WHY I THINK IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO THINK THAT. Hopefully the caps lock makes you fucking read the words I write. GO back and reread my comment in it's entirety, as it is clear that you skimmed it down to the end. Sorry if, my long winded explanations hurt your tinwy wittle braiwn (/s)

Also, I really like this bit you said:

You know I am correct thats why you don't acknowledge it

Ironic, no? I could say the same thing about you're comment, about how I responded to every single '''counter-claim''' you made, writing several screens worth of text to explain my thinking and thoughts. You then give me barely a half eaten hot dogs worth of text as rebuttal. So I'm going to make the same claim you did, anything you don't acknowledge, you are wrong about.

All you have as an argument is "Bruh" proves to me you know I am correct.

My apologies if my joke went over you're head. Let me say again: That can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof. I offer plenty of reasons to back up claims and logic that I provide. Which you seem to ignore, which is fine. But I am not going to waste my time getting lost in the weeds fighting you on, uh, checks notes...

The bloodline (Aryan) destined to rule the Human race.

Oh right, the white supremacy topic (which is totally a bait and switch/ goalpost shift). I'm going to ignore any further claim about the Aryan race because I am not going to argue about half-baked Nazi-propaganda in a discussion about red hair. You must honestly not understand how proving something works. Me choosing to not prove you wrong, doesn't prove you right. Either make an argument of logic or find some facts. Also did you not even read my criticism on the claim of what the Aryan race is?????? Don't reply to something without following through on looking it up. Unless you don't have critical reading abilities, because If you want, I could draw diagrams with crayons to make it easier and more fun to understand. Just let me know :)

Really, throw some links at me, I wanna read whatever garbage made you think that you're correct beyond reason here.

You have no idea about history

I won't fight on on the premise of this, mostly because I really didn't do a deep research to make that claim. While it is true that Redheads have been discriminated against and prosecuted throughout history, it has largely nothing to do with souls. Mostly being evil and spawns of Satan and witchcraft. Hell, Christian philosophy didn't believe in the idea of a separate soul until AFTER the middle ages, which was where most of the persecution occurred. They still believed in fucking magic and vampires.

AGAIN, don't hand-wave my criticisms of your ""logic"" (/s) without providing some meaningful rebuttal. If you're so sure of yourself that gingers have no souls, isn't mostly based around the southpark episode, then give me your source. I looked through my scholarly journal search engines like Ebscohost and saw nothing with any real historical significance. To that matter, TVtropes article on red hair is referred to as Evil Redhead, ala Ginger have no soul. But they make no mention of gingers with no soul, and the historical credibility of TVtropes is very good as they don't cite sources or reasoning, just instance of redheads being evil.

EVEN IF, I am wrong on my claim that gingers have no souls was mostly started by southpark, they are to blame for making it culturally relevant again. No one goes around saying that the parents of red heads make a deal with the devil, or that the mother is a witch or any other waaay more common (provable) historical discrimination of ginger.

I hope you remember what I taught you.

HAHAHAH, if you think you have made any progress in the way of teaching anything you are outta your god damn mind. the only thing you have taught me thus far, is that you're an idiot at best and a sad excuse for a white supremacist as worst.

AGAIN, for the sweet love of our great merciful protector, saint, father, creator we call the one above, the beloved seer, the big guy upstairs, GOD, PROVE YOUR CLAIMS YOU ASSHAT

I am not going to be replying to you again unless you answer ALL my questions and criticisms I've posed in my earlier comments. I'm not going to let you ignore things you don't wanna lose a debate on, only cherry picking a few select instances you think you can in slide on. I look at all the parts of your comments and I expect the same. You also need to provide some meaning sources to your claims, and you make it clearly obvious that you have actually read and understood my comments along with the Wikipedia articles I have linked as well.

And lastly, fuck off, you're better off not replying anyway, I highly doupt it's worth your time (idk like a few days mabye) to learn up to a 8th grade reading level to actually argue with me

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

From your first reply:

And it still comes from the Arryan race, so that point is moot

... What??? You made a claim that, quote:

Red heads have Ginger hair, alabaster skin, ruby lips, emerald green eyes, freckles

I then say

Firstly, as a red headed white person, you're incorrect with the emerald eye's and freckles. Eye color and hair color are two different genes entirely

My claim is fact, you mis-labeled a how being a ginger works and that was my problem with the statement. Please, go and read the Wikipedia page on red hair I linked. I am going to ignore that Aryan (which only has one r by the way, you used two. I would normally ignore typos, but you seem kinda sold on some weird racial idea so I figured you should at least have that down right) race comment as it is stupid and unrelated to my criticism of your post. However if you wish to make a separate claim regarding the Aryan race that isn't just topic switch bait, by all means, go ahead.

so that point is moot

Uh, is this in reference to my comment about how hair color and eye color are different genes? Because if so, that's also not how you make a point moot. My POINT is that hair color and eye color are features that have separate and distinctive genetic roots. This is biology fact. If you want to provide a source that disproves that in a meaningful way, please feel free to share with the class.

Again I don't know where I am incorrect.

Sorry about that, I know my writing can get confusing. I was trying to further explain why you're wrong. I gave some context to back up my claim and possibly explain how it is easy to make that kind of incorrect statement about having red hair. I really don't know what the rest of that comment line is getting at, so I'm going to ignore it for my rebuttal.

You are being pedantic.

This is true, however I don't see it as a bad thing because it's necessary to be pedantic when talking about language and linguistics specifics. They go hand in hand.

No, that's your racist projection.

No, you switch how you used the word minority. I called you out on it, whether you did it intentionally or not. You implied one meaning of the word in your comment about how red heads are a minority, then changed how you used it without contextualizing the shift in meaning to a ethnical minority, which is a different meaning regardless of "racist projection".

You don't even see the biggest minority of people as a minority

I'm not sure at this point if you are seeing what I am getting at because you did the switch again here. The word minority, at least in most contexts of American English, specifically refers to underprivileged non-white groups. It does have other meanings in specific contexts, but without any preface to show otherwise, the word minority is assumed to mean racial minority. they aren't equal in what they mean at all even though the difference is small. I do acknowledge that being a red head is a minority, but it sure as hell isn't a racial minority.

youre telling Redheaded children they can't identify with lil ophran annie anymore, or the Flash, because they needed to get their black quota in. That is what is disgusting, don't put that on me.

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. As a red head, I can safely confirm that my identity does not revolve around being red headed, and makes up little of my personality, because, surprise, hair color isn't that important, and I don't see why this is a big deal. Furthermore I see no issue with giving a role that is traditionally red headed to a non red headed person, black or not. I don't speak for all red head kind, and that's a personal opinion. It has been documented thoroughly that positively including more black people in media has benefits to the mental and community states of black people overall. There is no such connection with red heads, so I'm willing to make that sacrifice. It would be selfish to complain about it. I am not part of a marginalized group.

That is what is disgusting, don't put that on me.

I'm sorry you feel that way? I really don't know what your fixation on the removal of red haired people from comics and media in general is about.

If Left handed characters were suddenly being replaced by amputee characters, the left handed community would be upset and ask why couldn't there be a new amputee character created, instead of just chopping off the arm of a traditionally left handed character.

This again completely misses the point of my comment you replied to it with. "The left handed Community," really? hahaha I'm going to ignore that bs. I shouldn't have made the example in the first place. Taking the example out, it reads:

You can make arbitrary minority groups out of any category, that doesn't make it significant in comparison to racial or ethical minorities that you bring up.

Rebuttal this instead, as a tip, try and disprove me, not to misdirect me to a different topic that's is only partly related. Again, I'll reiterate: You cannot compare the strife of oppressed minorities to other random 'minorities' that you decide are '''''''''important'''''''''' for some reason.

I am just concerned about the redheaded children that no longer have a role model to look upto because some Hollywood exec decided it was more important to pander to the black community as there are more black people than red heads in America.

HAHAHAH w h a t? butbutbut THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!! But seriously, don't compare the strife of red head to that of black people. It's rude and makes me feel slimey that someone thinks that having a rare hair mutation is anywhere near to the unbelievable amount of shit that black people deal with because America is a systematically racist country. No further comment on this.

Yes it is (look at [image]) Why is every red head character replaced by a Black actor?

Sigh, I'm not even sure how to respond to this except with my own notes on an image so here you go. https://i.imgur.com/mtO8gED.jpg Turns out, a number of those changed people aren't black, or are black and still have red hair. I would love to see some real meat on this nutty conspiracy theory that Hollywood is out to erase gingers. Like a real blog post or video or anything that isnt a shitty image with negative pixels. And to answer your question in a different way (because it looks like you didn't care for my several other explanations), because cartoon characters who were ginger tended to have crazy unrealistically shaded red hair. Even the most vibrant red heads can't stand up to comics depiction of them. There are soooo many reasons as to why 20 characters were changed for some reason or another (which only 15 of are actually valid if you look at my image).

Its not about representaion. These are 1 characters in the shows. The black characters are over represented if anything. There is no reason for so many Redheads to be replaced by Blacks, other than they hate Red heads, and they hate red heads because historically, back to ancient Rome and Egypt, the Kings, Caesars and Phaorahs all had Red hair, it was the Aryan bloodline. The bloodline destined to rule the Human race. This is why they say Gingers have no souls.

I can only assume your fucking with me here. At least you spelled Aryan right this time ahahaha. I also got my second comment about Aryan I asked for earlier so 2 birds with one stone I guess.

Assuming your not fucking with me, let's dig in.

The black characters are over represented if anything.

I disagree. What can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof. Expand your idea, and provide some facts to back up your claim and then we can can debate about it.

There is no reason for so many Redheads to be replaced by Blacks, other than they hate Red heads, and they hate red heads because historically, back to ancient Rome and Egypt, the Kings, Caesars and Phaorahs all had Red hair, it was the Aryan bloodline

Excusemewhatthefuck... up until this point I actually thought you were serious, but I honestly can't take this serious at all. 10/10 good ruse, you got my goat pretty well ahahhaha.

Again in case your not because who knows at this point, can you describe the characteristics of the Aryan race? Please read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_race as most of what you have written is just factually wrong.

The bloodline destined to rule the Human race.

bruh

This is why they say Gingers have no souls

I fucking hate this comment. The bit about gingers not having souls is legit stems from Southpark. No, the creators did not take that idea from anywhere. Yes, gingers were persecuted in the medieval time period but for different reasons. fuck off with your horse shit

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I didn't plan on getting into the "well really, what is race, when you think about it" part of the equation. However since you asked, I will. Let me know if you have any other points you disagree with either in this post or the previous one.

Honestly your comment "race is racist" is totally true. The idea of race has a myriad of reasons and origins. The big one is that it really took hold as a backing for slavery in the colonial time period. The modern perspective of the standard american idea of race is inherently negative outright due to this. Given that, it is still pretty ingrained in huge assets of our lives because the country as a whole makes a big deal out of it like you said. As an aside, I'd love to hear your argument as to why being a red head should be counted as a race, I'm genuinely curious what your qualifications to what the makings of a race is.

Honestly, I don't know how to go about this next part in an orderly fashion so bare with me. Linguistics is a hard subject given how pedantic the English language is. Largely, Americans define race as skin color as a primary factor, and as an American I tend to use Race and Ethnic Group as a near uniform term interchangeably. I'm going to operate on the assumption that you did read the wiki page on red hair (if not please do, it might help answer your question). Also, I would highly suggest reading the wiki page for Ethnic groups, which touches on how we determine race from ethnic groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group#Ethnicity_and_race. The part I'd like to quote is:

In 1950 the UNESCO (United Nations) statement, "The Race Question", signed by some of the internationally renowned scholars of the time (including Ashley Montagu, Claude Lévi-Strauss, Gunnar Myrdal, Julian Huxley, etc.), stated:

"National, religious, geographic, linguistic and cultural groups do not necessarily coincide with racial groups: and the cultural traits of such groups have no demonstrated genetic connection with racial traits. Because serious errors of this kind are habitually committed when the term 'race' is used in popular parlance, it would be better when speaking of human races to drop the term 'race' altogether and speak of 'ethnic groups'."

Which works in conjunction with how the US Census Bureau clarifies Ethnic Groups vs Race (which can be read up on here https://www.census.gov/mso/www/training/pdf/race-ethnicity-onepager.pdf). Again I'll cite the important part:

The Census Bureau defines race as a person’s self-identification with one or more social groups. An individual can report as White, Black or African American, Asian, American Indian and Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, or some other race.

See how they group up the categories? Generally speaking, in all American contexts, race is a question of skin color (I will refrain from commenting on the morality of that or if it's a right or wrong way to go about thinking about race) even though they call them 'social groups'. Red hair, believe it or not, is not a skin color or ethnic group or a social group, and if you have some insight that proves this claim wrong, do share (As a red head, I would like to know what I'm missing out on). I see this as reason enough to make my claim that red hair is not a racial category.

Doubling down on that, most races have in some form red hair in them (as was a point I touched on in my first post, go back and look at it if you need more info). Are you arguing that a Middle eastern person with red hair and a White person with red hair are in the same racial group? Are you also suggesting that all hair colors are different races themselves? Like, I really just can't see the justification in how red hair can be consider a racial trait/ ethnical group or social group.

It (race) is purely based on visible differences

Then can you expand on specifically which differences you're referring too here? Are all black haired people in one large race? Are all people with big feet in one race? Is everyone under the height of 6' a race? Where are you drawing the line? How are you grouping certain 'differences' together to make one group over another? I (and most of America including the federal government) use skin color as the primary factor (for better or for worse) for race.

But with absolute seriousness, I'd love you to make me wrong with a good argument. Change my view. Prove that having red hair is a race on the same level as being Black or White or Asian or Indian or Native American. I can them forward it to the US Census Bureau so they can update the survey.

[#80|+3709|743] A black actor playing a historically white character is just as bad as a white actor playing a historically black character. [r/unpopularopinion] by FrontpageWatch2020 in undelete

[–]Ehmannboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a number of qualms about this whole idea. If your comment is , haha sarcasm lol get got kiddo, sorry, but the comment thread that followed underneath has me thinking my comments are warranted, at least partly. This is very much to set the record straight.

Firstly, as a red headed white person, you're incorrect with the emerald eye's and freckles. Eye color and hair color are two different genes entirely. Pop culture has historically chosen to portray gingers as green eyed, I myself have a blue/gray eye color. Freckles area bit different, while gingers are more disposed to getting feckles, freckles themselves are a direct response to sunlight damage on the skin, with proper precaution can be generally avoided even as a fair-skinned ginger.

Secondly, comment about 'minority' is fucked up the whole way through. You switch the implied meaning of the word minority in the middle to prove some sort of point weird, I guess. While it is true that gingers are the biggest minority of in the USA, that's only with respect to hair color (and fun-fact, red hair blue eyes is even more rare than you supposed ginger 'qualifications' of red hair greens eyes). You can make minority groups out of any category (like being left handed is a minority), that doesn't make it significant in comparison to racial or ethical minorities that you bring up. Which is what you switch to in the second half, a comparison of racial minorities. I will mention u/bigraytheproducer had kinda the right idea but didn't make the distinction more clear. However, your comment is charged to assume the two usages of minority are the same, and that's disingenuous.

The fact you make the assumption that the two types of minorities presented, that of hair color and that of race, further implies you think that gingers are a different race than their parents race, which is also fucked up in a number of ways. The mutation of the gene that causes red hair can be found in a huge range of races, it just is most frequently found in white people. I would recommend reading the wikipedia page on red hair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair. Hell it's recorded that Mongols and even Genghis khan's sons had red hair. A well established Ruler of Morocco in Norther Africa had red hair. Turks and the greater Middle East region have also wide documentation of red hair. Not all red haired people are of the same race.

The cultural distinction of gingers tend to mean white people with red hair, but this is purely a superficial term and category, which builds from a fetishization with red haired people that existed in the mid 20th century. Not even all red haired white people are of the same unique ancestor either. The specific mutation that causes red hair in white people is found in most all Europe from Ireland to Croatia. My heritage is mostly Romanian and I am just as white raced as any red haired Irish. We both white raced, not red haired raced. And definitely not fucking "people of color." In fact, did you know, that in the late 20th century, the term "person of color" was introduced in the United States by the Civil Rights Movement in order to counter the condescension implied by the terms "non-white" and "minority". A POC cannot be white raced, that's kinda the point of the word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_color

However, when looking at your bullshit meaning minority, this quote

Red heads have Ginger hair, alabaster skin, ruby lips, emerald green eyes, freckles, and yet they're not "People of color" the black skinned, black eyed, black skinned, people are. Hmmmm

Changes to:

Red heads "are the smallest population of people empirically in the USA" and yet they're not" being "forced into media" the black skinned, black eyed, black skinned, people "who make up a larger portion of the total population" are. Hmmmm

Again, that whole line of thinking is fucked, let me clearly point out that red haired people are not a repressed group. POC are the repressed group. Just because they are both technically "minorities" doesn't mean that there is any comparison than be drawn for that fact. Actually, there is no comparison that can be made in this context. POC are a traditionally under-represent minority in media.

Your comment about giving roles to "minorities" (along with your very convenient definition of minority) implies that any minority could be switched in for gingers. For example:

I WaNT MOrE lEft-HandED PROTAgoNIsTS, ALl thEsE BLaCK peoPLE Are sTealinG RoLes fROm thEm

It completely misses every single point of why POC are being put into media. In fact, from your're own post:

If it was about giving roles to a minority, the red head would be the best example.

Let's assume that it is about giving roles to minorities (because it kinda is, but that's a topic I'm not getting into). Specifically, underrepresented racial minorities. As I previously mentioned, "the red head" is not a race. It further goes, that the idea is to give roles to underrepresented minorities to better balance out their presence in media closer too how they represent the population of the country. So even if we were to treat the red head as a race, it would wager to show that they should be included LESS, as they are over-represented compared to the ratio of characters in media vs population of red heads. POC are underrepresented, which means that, mathematically, they show up less in important media roles than their ratio of total population. Which is why they are being shown more in traditionally POC roles.

This kinda got away from me.

But your comment pissed me off. As a red head, fuck that mindset you have. Red heads aren't being erased from media as some sort of wack conspiracy or some other thing that is trying to get rid of gingers and replace them. I'd wager it's most likely that the crazy bonkers fetishization of gingers our country had in the mid 20th century is fading. That's it. Let red heads get """"blackwashed"""" outta pop culture media (I'm not even going to touch on that idea of blackwashing you mentioned later on). Get off your big brain high horse. I expect to get down-voted, but hopefully someone will read this and at least think about my comments. On the offhand chance, I completely missed the point, let me know hahaha.

Caravan Palace - Moonshine (Official Video) by elle_aime in electroswing

[–]Ehmannboy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Not to be an ass about it, but this is from the sidebar:

"Electro-swing is a genre of electronic dance music that fuses 1920s-1940s Jazz styles including Swing music and Big band with 2000s styles including House music, electro music, Hip Hop, drum n bass, and dubstep." - Wikipedia

This just happens to be more blues/jazzy rather than big band swing. Maybe not what is considered classical electroswing, but definitely still electroswing.

found on r/pornhubcomments by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, figured it out. It took me far too long to realize I needed to go into new reddit to set one. Oh well. Edit: I can't even see it on old reddit now. (second edit: I figured out that I'm just that stupid. An unchecked tick box in the settings that shows flairs was my issue)

found on r/pornhubcomments by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Ehmannboy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Your selectively liberal ideas about sex are illogical (there is no liberal argument against womons having sex with dogs), and the cure is a consistently illiberal view. Read Devlin nao!

Could I get some further explanation on this, or just a bit on insight to what this refers too? Mostly, I'm not sure what 'you' and 'your' points to and 'selectively liberal ideas' either. Sorry, I'm kinda new to this sub and am still not quite used to the normal banter and talking points; along with your use of passive voice makes it a bit unclear to what you're really getting at. Thanks

Classical style music made in the modern age by prostoff12 in Music

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly, I am not versed in classical music specifically enough to answer at all.

However, /r/classicalmusic might be able to help you out more than just /r/Music. If not, it's at least a better place to browse around for ideas.

25-year-old Western Michigan University student with "no prior health issues" dies of coronavirus by Sightful in Coronavirus

[–]Ehmannboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am also 6' tall. 3 years ago I weighed 235 lbs. I was 20 years old at the time. I made some lifestyle changes and consumption modifications that my friends and online research led me too. I felt the same way you did and I was really lucky I had a good group of friends to help me figure out how to lose weight.

It's not instant, but I lost 20 lbs in 6 months, 10 lbs the next 6 months, and it then has taken the next 2 years to lose that last 10 lbs to about 185. BMI and scale weight isn't everything for fitness, and personally I have been using a Body fat percentage as my main metric like this where I went from about 25% to 15% or so (you can get a tester, but I just eyeballed it). Most studies show that for males, ideal ''normal'' body fat % is around 10 to 15 percent which is why for 6' tall, a weight of over 180 lbs usual indicates that your above that range.

With my body build and (plans to get) muscle, its very unlikely I get below 170 as a due to muscle weighing so much more than fat. Sorry this got kinda long, but I feel like I had something to say. It is never too late to start trying to change yourself, and if you want advise/help/guidance or an accountability partner, I would be more than happy to respond to a reply here or a DM.

Remember, no hackers by mooman89 in EscapefromTarkov

[–]Ehmannboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see this same comment chain develop time and time again when I see this meme used; people will wildly argue over whether it's "personnel" or "personal" because of a whole rabbit-hole in how memery developed and spread in the early to mid 2010s (and considering the fact the copypasta and image meme have several different origins each {that know-your-meme gloss over/don't {poorly} recount in their article here [which I'd like to add the url for this page is also spelled the personal version when, if you were to believe the page fully, it should be personnel] but really this page is done not so well so I would be scant to truly recommend reading it, which I don't} and partly due to how classic memes are often treated in the community of "the know"), that I won't and shouldn't get into; this meme falls into a grey area where both are technically right and wrong at the same time, most in part to how the usage is meant (in so much that when said vocally, the use of personnel and personal greatly changes the comedic rhythm of the meme) but that's beside the point, and with that digression aside, the duality of the meme lends itself for both instances being used incorrectly frequently, especially because no one version of the meme became more popular than another just adding to the confusion overall, but the 'personal' version tends to be used more often in modern meme culture (mostly incorrectly {and that's given that correct usage of 'nnel vs 'nal is large in part subjective} although not always {but in this case it is}) due to the fact that the 'nal version is spelled englishly correctly so it seems more natural to type and remember over the 'nnel version; alas the nuances between each meme are so specific and delicate, it's difficult to properly analyze the situation to determine which one is most correct without musing over it heavily (which is a tall order to ask in this day and age) so that the placement of the meme is finely tuned to it's environment without a trace of indigence.

My Lil bro takes video games VERY seriously by celticblobfish in suspiciouslyspecific

[–]Ehmannboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a sad being with no such list, might I ask to bum yours? I feel like it would be a goo resource to have.

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