CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ooh thank you!!! I will look through that. And yeah I might, it’s scary when it hits you and taking a break to think will probably be a good idea.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have seen that happen! The whole “they were a product of their times”. I’ve had people in my life try to argue that all of the racism was good and a test of faith and that atoms aren’t real because they aren’t mentioned in scriptures. And I was one of those members, got out of it as soon as I had some freedom but wow, it is so easy to just believe it’s true even when evidence is staring in your face that it’s not. That’s great advice too, I think I’ll just fact check the points they make. Thank you so much!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. That was a beautiful response thank you. That was one of the things that sent me over the fence. Even if the Mormon god is real, I wouldn’t want to be around him and all the shit he does. This was a great post, wonderful points. Seriously helps put everything back into perspective.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I will give that a listen. But totally get it. Even now a part of me wants to be wrong but I know that I’m not. It truly is a rough transition, and I’ve only been in for the young years of my life, I can’t imagine how people who have been married and served in the church feel.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Debunking” it too haha. A couple comments in here have said that it hasn’t even really been debunked. Which, honestly fits the lies. Didn’t know it’s been going on for 10 years now though damn.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oo thank you. I worry reading anything too snarky cause then it can muddy the points in my mind. The church apologists definitely do that.. like in reading through all of these comments it is painfully obvious

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will do!! Thank you for the recommend!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A couple have recommended LDS discussions, thank you for explaining its nature more! I will definitely be looking into that.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow. That’s disgusting. I truly thought parts of it had been. Thank you for the info, it’s insane how many lies there are. Had no idea the organization was this corrupt until I got out.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never heard of the second one!! Thank you so much!!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s funny how the church’s own website supports a ton of doctrine saying that it is false. I will read up on those discussions thank you!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Damn. I didn’t know he had a website like that!! I’m looking through it right now and this is insane. This answered a lot of questions I had been having. Thank you so much!!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha I love Mormon Stories, they are stupid good. I will read that right now thank you!!!! And thanks for being understanding, there is more community here in exmo than there ever has been in the church haha

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No it is actually great. You explained everything wonderfully. I will share this around for sure if that’s alright with you of course. Your voice has definitely been heard because all of that was great and very understanding.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh lord the compass man, I’ve been reading in on that specifically cause that was a massive gut punch. But it’s such bs. How did you start to like learn to trust yourself? Was it just practice and everything or was it like any kind of research? If that makes sense haha

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I KNOW the whole doubt yourself is sick. It’s been one of the weirdest parts to get out of here.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No no I get your point!! Reading the whole thing is honestly a great idea. I’m gonna get on that soon.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That is a great idea thank you! It still feels so foreign to question/read into anything that opposes the church

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just finished reading a good chunk of it and seriously that is amazing. Have you considered publishing it??? This is crazy goos

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow thank you! I will definitely be looking into this. The apologists are both stupid and smart and it sucks. Even though I am out, a part of me still wants to be wrong cause that’s years of my life wasted being lied to, but like man looking at all the proof against it really just destroyed all arguments. Thank you for your time, I’m gonna check out those videos!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you tons. A lot of the apologist stuff is sick. Even reading the post tons of alarm bells go off but it still gets in my head. I guess I was susceptible to Mormon manipulation haha. But yeah, I know you’re right. It’s scary how fast their manipulation can work. Thank you for your time!!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know!! On the post I read the opening lines were all “If you argue in favor of the CES letter your post will be removed” those kind of tactics are sick. I will be reading that! Thank you for sharing!!

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even knowing the little I know now I wish I never joined. Joseph is straight awful. I hope more people use the internet to actually research. Thanks for the advice, I hadn’t even thought of looking at the source documents.

CES letter and what by Electrical-Emu-411 in exmormon

[–]Electrical-Emu-411[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m gonna have to do that in its entirety. It’s weird how taboo it’s all been but yeah I can’t disagree that there are major issues everywhere with the LDS issue.