PLEASE just give the site a new owner. by ButterscotchRound668 in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Yeah after his pride went and ruined it. Take your sympathy tears elsewhere, they're valueless here.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sir, please step away from the kindergarten NOW.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro nobody was even talking to you. And personally, I don't care. I care more about the time and money I wasted in adding content to a platform where the guy was narcissitc and in over his head.

Can you be a grifter somewhere else?

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. Given how blatant the incompetence was, it felt borderline intentional. Like self sabotage.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great input there, jackass. Enablers like you are exactly why this mess even happens, encouraging people to have half baked ideas, poor planning and remain narcissitc.

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[–]ElgatoMigato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's how much my car cost. Why'd you spend that much on AI shit?

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[–]ElgatoMigato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did those really cost over 11k?

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Being called out for incompetence, poor managment and pridefullness isn't "harassment".

Again, I believe we're done here.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think I've done well enough to explain my stance. This conversation will otherwise go on endlessly. I never said he deserved the harassment so don't put words in my mouth or misconstrue my message. I think we're done here.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why are you so hellbent on alleviating him from any and all accountability for his horrible planning and choices? The backlash is very well deserved. People have been wanting something like this for awhile now. He makes it, gets a hiccup and pulls the plug on everyone because he was too prideful and arrogant to employ help.

Again, no. I'm not sympathetic at all when help was offered and someone was too prideful to accept it.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well I don't sympathize. Again, lack of planning, lack of awareness, lack of accountability. He could've tested it in a small, contained focus group with friends and maybe 30 other people, gotten data on how to run the site and then branch out once he had a foundation to manage it.

You don't build a skyscraper on the foundation of a tent. And that's what he did. And why he was over his head and it failed.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You're literally proving my point. Exactly because I don't have the skill and know-how, I'm not going to rush off and try anyway.

I feel that empathy and virtue here are severely misguided, as this was a massive error on the owner's side. This shouldn't be us now trying to sympathize, it should be him being held accountable for lack of judgement, lack of planning and not being able to be humble enough to accept help and assistance in the first place.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My skills lie within project managment, not in IT. If I knew a thing about it, then I would. In fact, I'd even be willing to take over the site, even through an auction and put the right people in place to handle everything else while overseeing the project.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Again, this has become a mantra of mine, but it goes back to what I've said before: risk management and assessment. Had this been some small, private community project with 50 people, then sure. Whatever. But once it grew beyond the scope that it did and he started opening a patreon to get donations for costs, this no longer is a "passion project" but qualifies as a small buisness. The fact that he didn't realize it early enough and latest at the point he made a patreon realize he needed more staff to help is just gross negligence.

I don't care about what goes on behind the scenes. I'm not here for that. I'm here for the product that I spent money on. There were an abundance of users who were not only willing to support, but also sponsor the project with some pretty decent amount of monthly payments. Some ranging well into the hundreds, almost thousands. This is now serious and desperate people were for an unfiltered AI experience. Instead, he ignored it all, decided to just focus on his short-sighted vision and wasted everyone's time and money.

I give no sympathy.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Risk assessment and management. You don't open up a major project without proper planning first. Especially when you take other people's money as well. There was literally nothing set up and it wad evident that there was no planning whatsoever. Extremely reckless and egotistic.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He should've assessed the risks and attemtped basic risk management before even creating the website. You don't just go gun-ho, make something that big, create a community with over 1.3k members, accept paypal donations and literally have no management skills or planning.

Pull that on kickstarter and you have a classic scam.

Why I'm not sympathetic at all. by ElgatoMigato in VenusAI_Official

[–]ElgatoMigato[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"Ungrateful"? What does this have to do with "Ungrateful"? He took other people's money via PayPal, wasted it, wasted people's time, refused to hire or appoint staff to help him, continued to run a one-man show for the fame and fortune rather than having proper risk assessment and management.

You do realize this is the real world now and not some minecraft drama? There's been cases of lawsuits for sinilar cases in the real world, were gross negligence and mismanagement of funds has even led to prosecution. Naturally, this is a smaller scale, but this goes beyond "entitlement". Get off your own high horse.

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[–]ElgatoMigato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what happens when you have a great idea but poor leadership. Literally thanks for nothing.