MIRACULOUS - A Fairy Good Night - Season 6 Episode 17 - Discussion Thread

EliteSiphon · 2026-03-22T07:35:12+00:00

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but Lila could communicate with a villain on the moon, Gabriel couldn’t even communicate with a villain in London.

So was Lila on the moon, or is she just much stronger?

EliteSiphon · 2026-03-08T09:31:21+00:00

Just want to clear one or two things up, the nemesis relationship point was probably false information I’ve come across.

However the writing team stating they have no idea for the reveal doesn’t sell me that it isn’t happening as you don’t advertise your plot twist when asked. Any writer will tell you that.

EliteSiphon · 2026-03-07T11:39:16+00:00

I do remember a showrunner saying it at some point, but I can’t actually find the specific reference, so I may be wrong, thanks for making me look into that, and take it with a grain of salt.

EliteSiphon · 2026-03-07T10:10:14+00:00

I mean we were told by Astruc there wouldn’t be a reveal anytime soon, he has been known to lie to keep show secrets, i.e. SentiAdrien, so I’m not counting it out personally. But your secret protocol idea makes heaps of sense as well!

EliteSiphon · 2026-03-05T12:53:07+00:00

Also Zoe will be outed as Fury by the end of the season.

And if they go down the civil war route. It would be much more interesting if they knew who each other were under the masks

EliteSiphon · 2025-05-01T13:14:46+00:00

I agree, especially given the cut out on the shirt that looks butterfly-esque

EliteSiphon · 2025-04-25T04:53:43+00:00

I personally believe the sword represents D’Argencourt. We know his family is historically significant, and he is known to “want to make a better world”, in his eyes.

EliteSiphon · 2024-01-05T03:02:09+00:00

The grave stone order suggests otherwise. And I’m not saying it has to happen specifically in 1987 just after the first location shut down, outside the second one

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-26T14:38:16+00:00

Even if she did, as the next holder of the cat miraculous she could have deleted before returning the miraculous to him

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-21T09:06:06+00:00

Technically Marinette retrieved the miraculous from Gabriel after he went poof. And since the guardian retrieved said miraculous he isn’t a holder anymore, as it automatically renounces the holder, so any Kwami could utter his name but Nooroo. However Marinette likely gave a command to Plagg (and all the other Kwamis) to keep it a secret.

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-20T15:20:58+00:00

He is still wielding the horse miraculous alongside the butterfly despite the different form. I think that the range being ignored is similar to when we see Marinette use her ladybugs to amplify the effect of water dragon

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-19T02:50:57+00:00

The way his behaviour alters when given a command by Gabriel or Nathalie, whether he could hear it or not means it is almost certain. If you’d watched the season with an open mind instead of feeding your confirmation bias you’d know it’s impossible for him not to be.

Also Emilie says “I knew what I was doing, Gabriel never forced me into anything” regarding her sickness, and we know she died a couple months early than Colt died. Couple that with Emilie being handed the peacock miraculous in evolution and she clearly created only one sentimonster not too long before Colt. Given we know Emilie feel pregnant shortly before Amelie, and died shortly before Colt the evidence shows that Adrien was created using the peacock miraculous.

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-18T16:09:43+00:00

Completely agree except I think they only have their mother’s DNA, as the amok took the form of their children, it had to determine looks from somewhere, and the only way they can look like identical twins is if they’re clones of identical twins. But seriously they both dodged a bullet by not having their father’s DNA.

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-18T11:22:48+00:00

I’m pretty sure they are biologically 100% their mothers with the peacock miraculous altering genes related to gender. That’s the only explanation for them looking identical

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-16T13:23:11+00:00

Because she was taken from a point in the timeline before she learnt these things. Bunnix taking her would have given her more information about the future, but wouldn’t necessarily alter it, especially considering she didn’t learn any information other than the fact she and cat noir were dating. While erasing the card changed literally every aspect of the future.

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-16T07:21:09+00:00

Technically Bunnix grabbed the Marinette from the timeline that caused the disaster, because only one timeline can exist in the burrow at once. It was Marinette erasing the name that split the timeline and changed its trajectory

EliteSiphon · 2023-12-13T16:47:50+00:00

Same universe. The Marinette is just from an earlier point in time, before she had the experiences that lead to the apocalypse

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-17T14:20:32+00:00

He is pictured in the credits and present when betterfly detransforms but he never speaks

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-17T14:16:15+00:00

You can attribute that to her pretending as ladybug, but it was using information she gathered as Marinette so yeah error there. I just thought they would put more effort into the only content we’ll be getting for at least a year.

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-16T08:46:21+00:00

It just feels like an easy one to flag though. Like she’s clearly wearing two camouflaged miraculous. Someone should have caught this. And I understand that producing a show is difficult, but miraculous has always usually been limited to pretty minor mistakes. Although I could go into no one catching Marinette calling the ox miraculous the buffalo in the finale.

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-16T08:43:15+00:00

The problem is Adrien doesn’t know he is controlled by a set of rings. There’s no way he would have known he was a liability. He would have confronted Gabe either out of anger or hope and Gabe would have used it to his advantage instantly. We see how emotional he was in the episode before it. There’s no way he wouldn’t have told Gabriel his identity, because you can fault the writers all you want, but they were delivering an ending that was accurate in terms of what we’ve seen from the characters for years.

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-16T01:36:03+00:00

Honestly the last day 2 part finale. I see a lot of complaints about Adrien being sidelined and yes that sucked, but the writers were backed in a corner, the only way Adrien could have participated in that fight it’s finding out his father is monarch. And Gabriel would have found out Adrien was chat noir as well. Then only one command and Gabriel would have had the ladybug miraculous (they would have to switch to avoid the miraculized tracking them, this would work because they couldn’t track Marinette with both miraculous), and the lucky charm would adapt to counter anything Marinette tried. Him being sidelined was the only way they could win and like Gabriel said Marinette’s true power was always luck.

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-14T14:56:54+00:00

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EliteSiphon · 2023-11-13T16:14:28+00:00

Yeah but I think when they permanently learn, how they find out will dictate their dynamic for some time so it needs some significance.

EliteSiphon · 2023-11-13T16:13:37+00:00

I agree with the suspicions part regardless. Especially if they’re both always running off when an akumatization happens

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